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iPhone economy : each "Made In China" iPhone has $6 Chinese content

Götterdämmerung;2343140 said:
Did I say anything about being happy of dominating anyone?

You were the one starting to prasie Japanese barbarity that is not one inch better than what the Nazis did to the Jews, Gypsies and other groups of people.

So, I ask you again: Did the Chinese try to exterminate the Baiyues like the Nazis and Japanese did to their victims of barbarity?

No way, read again dude, who happy to dominate another nations first ??read again post #57
OK. They are your islands. But Vietnam is our province. If you can prove these island belong to u then we can prove that Vietmam belong to China. We enslaved u for 1000 years, dont mention history when talking about this topic.
 
Hehe, you forgot that your radar suck , so US-NATO had to support their radar to help you to detect our artillery groups(and this radar got destroy by our special forces after that) ? did you deploy this ten millions radar in Sino Russia border ??

what are you talking about,ha,the facts and figures about that war are there for people to check.go and find it out.
 
Why isn't the iPhone made in America? | Prestowitz




Chinese nationalists like to brag about how iPhone symbolizes "Made In China", but there is little Chinese content in each iPhone; Chinese contribution is mostly cheap labor and some minor cheap parts worth $6, and Foxconn can always lift its iPhone factory up and move to Vietnam should the time comes. This is the reason why China runs massive trade deficits against Taiwan and Korea, because all the high-value high-tech parts of "Made In China" product come from those two countries.

Furthermore, the article basically describes China as nothing more than a proxy in a real trade war against Japan, Taiwan and Korea.

Thanks for ur post my friend. :cheers:

You people know inside out of chinese but most of the chinese takes china as a developed country and bully around even more enfamous Americans don't bully so much like they do.
 
The iPhone is a software product. The value is the software (iOS, Siri, Apps). Every piece of hardware in the iPhone is a cheap commodity including the retina screen.

Talking about hardware content in a software product just shows your lack of intelligence. Also Android has already caught up with the iOS and Huawei makes terrific Chinese tablets.
That is a terrible argument. Might as well say the same about a crescent wrench and its instructions on how to use it. If what you say is true, then why have we not seen something equal or even superior to the iPhone from any Chinese designer? After all, not only do the Chinese have 'superior IQ' but that Chinese assemblers control access to these 'cheap commodity' in their service, no?
 
Mr. Got-my-dung.....Please explain to our Vietnamese friend here that you're Chinese and owns another account....

"FairandUnbiased".

Typical repy of a loser as you can't deviler any counter argument pertinent to the subject.

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No way, read again dude, who happy to dominate another nations first ??read again post #57

So Nazi and Japanese genocide are comparable to an unproven claim of 1000 years of enslavements. So, were your forefathers slaves and could be sold like a commodity?
 
what are you talking about,ha,the facts and figures about that war are there for people to check.go and find it out.
Hehe, you said your troops in Sino-Soviet border were better than troops in Sino-VN border , but I'm sure with you that PLA deployed in Sino-VN border got better weapons and radar bcz it had US-NATO support , don't deny the fact that China-US_NATO tries their best to defeat VN, but lost , and now, China-US become enemy , all China-US goodwill gone , China achieve Nothing :cool:
Götterdämmerung said:
So Nazi and Japanese genocide are comparable to an unproven claim of 1000 years of enslavements. So, were your forefathers slaves and could be sold like a commodity?
So, why don't you ask Chinese here if they did enslave Bai yue groups in history or not ??they're the first one said about it here.
 
Götterdämmerung;2343209 said:
Typical repy of a loser as you can't deviler any counter argument pertinent to the subject.

Mr.fairandunbiased, none of whatever "arguments" you seem to be putting up are coming through to me.

Its one of the many drawbacks with Norton anti-false flag troll software. My apologies.
 
Götterdämmerung;2343052 said:
You are not answering my question. You praised the Japanese for trying to systematically exterminate the Chinese like the Nazis tried to exterminate the Jews, Gypsies and other groups of people. Did the Chinese systematically tried to exterminate all Vietnamese? No?

As far as I know the Yues in China are happy to be Chinese.

Do you have proofs for your claims. I have tons of proofs for the Nazi and Japanese crimes.


As a so called German ur knowledge in naziz can be understandable but when it comes to chinese its amazing.

A German siting in Germany knows china well then Asians and speaks strongly for china? Great.
 
As a so called German ur knowledge in naziz can be understandable but when it comes to chinese its amazing.

A German siting in Germany knows china well then Asians and speaks strongly for china? Great.

Why not? We are an educated bunch of people. I know China well, I know Europe even better, I know the US quite a great deal and enough of India to counter some of your BS.

I like China because I like the philosophy, the art (particularly cinema art) and I make good money with China.

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So, why don't you ask Chinese here if they did enslave Bai yue groups in history or not ??they're the first one said about it here.

As your fellow countrymen Gambit already said, all forumers are making big claims. As long as nobody come up with scientific proofs those claims are nothing but hot air.

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German version btw. ;)

What about German version?
 
Götterdämmerung;2343272 said:
Why not? We are an educated bunch of people. I know China well, I know Europe even better, I know the US quite a great deal and enough of India to counter some of your BS.

I like China because I like the philosophy, the art (particularly cinema art) and I make good money with China.

*puts on German accent* I also love every famous Chinese moviezz like the " fanciful dragon ", "jumping butterfly", " kung pao chicken"....which are very classical artistic movies. Indian movies suckss....communist China is awesome...! Germans looorve the awesome Chinese !
 
*puts on German accent* I also love every famous Chinese moviezz like the " fanciful dragon ", "jumping butterfly", " kung pao chicken"....which are very classical artistic movies. Indian movies suckss....communist China is awesome...! Germans looorve the awesome Chinese !

I didn't say all Germans love China, there are plenty of sinophobes as well as sinophils here. I talk for myself.
 
:lol: Any credible basis for that assertion? But say that it does. So what?


More like can China sustain the current economic growth inside that time span?

Here is an excellent explanation of basic economics and growth...

Ask Marilyn Sunday's Column November 20, 2011 | Parade.com

Pay attention to Vos Savant's answer.

What she is saying, from basic economics, is that EXPLOITATION OF CONSUMPTION is the engine of economic growth. That consumption can be internal or external but usually best if there is a balance of both. China's economic growth has been based mostly upon EXTERNAL consumption: US and Europe. China's internal consumption has not yet reached the same as that of the American and European level, especially at the individual level. I consider myself a financially discipline person but I know I spend and consume a lot more than the average Chinese. China's low labor cost is an attractant for anyone who wishes to reduce overall cost and in a competitive market environment, low cost of anything is desirable.

What Vos Savant said is significant: '...escalating productive transactions...' with emphasis on 'escalating'. Inside a population, regardless of whether it is stable or growing, in order to have persistent economic growth, that internal transactions must occurs and they must increase. Sorry, but as we have seen everywhere, including now in America, governmental activities cannot sustain that growth. What we have seen in China so far is the encouragement of capitalism but under governmental controls to initiate and attempts to sustain growth. The result is a disparity of wealth in China where the vast majority of wealth is concentrated on 'special economic zones', official or unofficial, and namely the coastal cities. Any wonder why so many Chinese want to move to the cities?

Russia is already facing INTERNAL problems relating to the euro. China's dependency on American consumption, from the iPhone to Walmart's imports, make China economically vulnerable. Will China's internal consumption make up for any decrease in external consumption? No. This now treads into human behaviors. China's high savings rate does not help that internal consumption. The Chinese government can use that huge reserves to fund building new (ghost) cities but if no one can afford or willing to live in them, that will never be counted as 'escalating productive transactions'.

Americans cannot force Chinese to demand a higher living standards. But if during economic hardships, the human reflex to save and to exercise extreme discretion on spending kicks in, the Chinese, the Americans, the French, the Brits, or anyone else for that matter, will be willing to live with the current or even lowered standards of living. So if Americans decides to be frugal and Chinese internal consumption cannot make up for that loss, say goodbye (in Chinese) to that economic growth you have been boasting about.

The Soviet Empire was an excellent example of basic economics and Vos Savant's answer. The Soviet government DID NOT want internal consumption based upon competitive market principles. The simple microwave oven could not be invented and marketed under the Soviet system. The military-industrial complex so often warned about in the US was more appropriate for the Soviet system and it worked. The principles behind the microwave oven would have been scuttled away by the Soviet government for military purposes and the Soviet public would have been no wiser of the convenience offered. But more likely given how the Soviet system discouraged creativity, even the principles of this ordinary thing would not have crossed a Soviet citizen's mind. No wonder why Western products were so popular and eagerly acquired by the Soviet citizenry.

If we go down, so will China.

:lol: funny guy, the average American CANNOT consume anymore. We just made gold skyrocket in July and cost your Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and by extension, the Pentagon, billions of dollars when we destroyed their short positions. Every paper is inflating relative to gold now, but the RMB is inflating less.

The US T-bond market is a joke. Unprecedented supply, record prices, no new demand, yet interest rates are at an all time low. Lmao, the typical sign of government buying its own bonds.

BTW, labor is only 15% of the cost of any product. If it was for cheap labor, the multinationals would've moved into Vietnam or Africa.
 

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