iPhone economy : each "Made In China" iPhone has $6 Chinese content

[EastSea]

What I care is that we enslaved u. , so less to claim guangdong and guangxi, U can claim whole China then u will repeat the history of Mongolian and Manchurian.Go ahead.

You are shamelessly talking about enslaving when china are slaving by smaller countries.

 

[Korean]

China has everything Korea has except one thing-- American soldier.

China doesn't have following things that Korea has.

- Democracy
- Freedom
- Free Speech
- Right to organize and demonstrate
- Free Press
- Freedom of Religion
- Fair and objective legal system
- Universal healthcare
- World-class auto industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- World-class electronics industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- A soccer team that can go to the World Cups
- A passport that allows its holder to enter the US, Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan visa-free(Korean passport is a hot theft item in China and sells for $15,000 in Chinese black markets)

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

China doesn't have following things that Korea has.

- Democracy
- Freedom
- Free Speech
- Right to organize and demonstrate
- Free Press
- Freedom of Religion
- Fair and objective legal system
- Universal healthcare
- World-class auto industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- World-class electronics industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- A soccer team that can go to the World Cups
- A passport that allows its holder to enter the US, Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan visa-free(Korean passport is a hot theft item in China and sells for $15,000 in Chinese black markets)

Huawei and ZTE are superior to Samsung in the telecom hardware field, which is closely related to electronics but also incorporates the far superior concept of photonics. Huawei also designs its own RF chips. Koreans are only skillful at making small tweaks to existing technologies while Chinese pioneer all new ones.

Telecom Equipment Vendor Companies; List of Top Telecom Equipment Vendor Firms

No Samsung here.

Huawei - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Huawei's revenues in 2010 accounted for 15.7% of the $78.56 billion global carrier-network-infrastructure market, putting the company second behind the 19.6% share of Telefon AB L.M. Ericsson, according to market-research firm Gartner.[32]

 

[blackops]

i really wont like any one calling my 45k 4s to be MADE IN CHINA disgrace it would be

 

[OrionHunter]

i am a chinese nationalist and i say Fu*k the iphone.

I agree! My 'made in China' iPhone lasted a full week before dying an inglorious death! Jeez! That really sucked!

 

[blackops]

China doesn't have following things that Korea has.

- Democracy
- Freedom
- Free Speech
- Right to organize and demonstrate
- Free Press
- Freedom of Religion
- Fair and objective legal system
- Universal healthcare
- World-class auto industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- World-class electronics industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- A soccer team that can go to the World Cups
- A passport that allows its holder to enter the US, Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan visa-free(Korean passport is a hot theft item in China and sells for $15,000 in Chinese black markets)

in and all they dont have the democratic rights

 

[gambit]

Buddy, it'll take at least 10 years for the US to re-establish those lines and just get caught up to current Chinese practice in separations and purifications.

Any credible basis for that assertion? But say that it does. So what?

Would the US still exist in 10 years? That's a question mark.

More like can China sustain the current economic growth inside that time span?

Here is an excellent explanation of basic economics and growth...

Ask Marilyn Sunday's Column November 20, 2011 | Parade.com

Q: I keep reading about how slowly the economy is growing and how this is such a bad thing. Why do we need growth? If we depend on more and more people to swell the economy, how can we—or the world, for that matter—possibly sustain this? —Andrew Karpe, Brookline, Mass.

A: Economic growth refers to escalating productive transactions from the use of natural resources, technology development, labor, etc. It doesn’t correspond to population growth. A “growing” economy is one in which more and more of these buy-and-sell activities occur, regardless of the number of people involved. In other words, an economy can grow with a stable population. Economic growth is what raises our standard of living. An economy can be perfectly sound without an expanding output of goods and services, but the quality of everyday life won’t increase rapidly, if at all.

Pay attention to Vos Savant's answer.

What she is saying, from basic economics, is that EXPLOITATION OF CONSUMPTION is the engine of economic growth. That consumption can be internal or external but usually best if there is a balance of both. China's economic growth has been based mostly upon EXTERNAL consumption: US and Europe. China's internal consumption has not yet reached the same as that of the American and European level, especially at the individual level. I consider myself a financially discipline person but I know I spend and consume a lot more than the average Chinese. China's low labor cost is an attractant for anyone who wishes to reduce overall cost and in a competitive market environment, low cost of anything is desirable.

What Vos Savant said is significant: '...escalating productive transactions...' with emphasis on 'escalating'. Inside a population, regardless of whether it is stable or growing, in order to have persistent economic growth, that internal transactions must occurs and they must increase. Sorry, but as we have seen everywhere, including now in America, governmental activities cannot sustain that growth. What we have seen in China so far is the encouragement of capitalism but under governmental controls to initiate and attempts to sustain growth. The result is a disparity of wealth in China where the vast majority of wealth is concentrated on 'special economic zones', official or unofficial, and namely the coastal cities. Any wonder why so many Chinese want to move to the cities?

Russia is already facing INTERNAL problems relating to the euro. China's dependency on American consumption, from the iPhone to Walmart's imports, make China economically vulnerable. Will China's internal consumption make up for any decrease in external consumption? No. This now treads into human behaviors. China's high savings rate does not help that internal consumption. The Chinese government can use that huge reserves to fund building new (ghost) cities but if no one can afford or willing to live in them, that will never be counted as 'escalating productive transactions'.

Americans cannot force Chinese to demand a higher living standards. But if during economic hardships, the human reflex to save and to exercise extreme discretion on spending kicks in, the Chinese, the Americans, the French, the Brits, or anyone else for that matter, will be willing to live with the current or even lowered standards of living. So if Americans decides to be frugal and Chinese internal consumption cannot make up for that loss, say goodbye (in Chinese) to that economic growth you have been boasting about.

The Soviet Empire was an excellent example of basic economics and Vos Savant's answer. The Soviet government DID NOT want internal consumption based upon competitive market principles. The simple microwave oven could not be invented and marketed under the Soviet system. The military-industrial complex so often warned about in the US was more appropriate for the Soviet system and it worked. The principles behind the microwave oven would have been scuttled away by the Soviet government for military purposes and the Soviet public would have been no wiser of the convenience offered. But more likely given how the Soviet system discouraged creativity, even the principles of this ordinary thing would not have crossed a Soviet citizen's mind. No wonder why Western products were so popular and eagerly acquired by the Soviet citizenry.

If we go down, so will China.

 

[beijingwalker]

I agree! My 'made in China' iPhone lasted a full week before dying an inglorious death! Jeez! That really sucked!

really?how about "made in India"iphone?

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

China doesn't have following things that Korea has.

- Democracy
- Freedom
- Free Speech
- Right to organize and demonstrate
- Free Press
- Freedom of Religion
- Fair and objective legal system
- Universal healthcare
- World-class auto industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- World-class electronics industry(Chinese companies are just assemblers unable to engineer)
- A soccer team that can go to the World Cups
- A passport that allows its holder to enter the US, Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan visa-free(Korean passport is a hot theft item in China and sells for $15,000 in Chinese black markets)

No matter how hard Korea pretends to be a gentlewoman， but the truth is that you are under the body of the USA, enjoying the feeling of being raped.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

And you just learn that from me.

You are full of yourself, aren't you?

 

[NiceGuy]

Japan actually did enslave all of Vietnam, but never got more than 1/3 of China.

Japanese joined to Viet Minh forces to fought agianst French after that. They trained VN soldiers on using Japan weapons and tactic as a way to compensate to our loss.

Japanese soldiers with the Viet Minh

[This subject has fascinated me ever since I read reports that the Japanese genius and war criminal Colonel Tsuji Masanobu had spent his last years in Vietnam, helping defeat the Americans. At last someone has done serious research into the subject. As a French scholar, using French archives, Christopher Goscha concentrated on the years 1945-1950, and there is of course no proof that any of the individuals he mentions were still serving with the North Vietnamese or Viet Cong during the "American War."
Belated Asian Allies

And the Viet Minh wanted them, the officers and NCOs particularly, as training cadres. In September 1945, there were about 50,000 Japanese soldiers and civilians in northern Vietnam; by December 1946, about 32,000 had been repatriated and 3,000 escaped to the island of Hainan, leaving 15,000 still in the country. Perhaps a third of these, Goscha believes, may have joined the Viet Minh as cadre, combat troops, or civilian experts.
....
"One of the results of the Japanese presence in the Viet Minh army was an increase in French losses at the beginning of the war," Goscha writes. During the first battles in the north, Japanese soldiers served in the front lines. In Hue in 1947, the French reported battling a Japanese assault force of 150 men. Also in 1947, Colonel Ishii helped set up an ambush that killed upwards of 70 French soldiers.

http://www.warbirdforum.com/japviet.htm

China is just too big to invade in short time for a small nations , you should feel ashamed that even small country also can force you to knee down to kiss their foot instead of feeling happy bcz Japanese could not kill you all.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

But Japanese joined to Viet Minh forces to fought agianst French after that and trained VN soldier in using Japan weapons and tactic as a way to compensate to our loss.

China is just too big to invade in short time for a small nations , you should feel ashamed that even small country also can force you to knee down to kiss their foot instead of feeling happy bcz Japanese could not kill you all.

Would you also praise a small nation like Nazi-Germany for bringing so many to its knees and kiss our boots? Do you think that the Jews, Gypsies, handicapped people, homosexuals and anyone who resisted Nazi barbarity should be happy because we didn't manage to kill them all?

What a little sick person you are!

 

[beijingwalker]

Japan is too small and isolated,it has no strategic rear.in modern war Japan can be wiped off the face of the earth in seconds.but hopefully that will never happen.Japan should take care of its relationship with Russia.

 

[NiceGuy]

Would you also praise a small nation like Nazi-Germany for bringing so many to its knees and kiss our boots? Do you think that the Jews, Gypsies, handicapped people, homosexuals and anyone who resisted Nazi barbarity should be happy because we didn't manage to kill them all?

What a little sick person you are!

I'm talking to insane Chinese here, they're so happy to dominated Bai Yue groups in thousand years ,so why don't you criticise them first ??or bcz you're Chinese too , so you support those insane here ??

What a loser in false flag !

Japan is too small and isolated,it has no strategic rear.in modern war Japan can be wiped off the face of the earth in seconds.but hopefully that will never happen.Japan should take care of its relationship with Russia.

Yeah, you can wipe off India-VN-Japan here by your Big Mouth even you got badly defeated by our women

 

[Götterdämmerung]

we're talking insane Chinese here, they're so happy to dominated Bai Yue groups in thousand years ,so why don't you criticise them first ??or bcz you're Chinese too , so you support those insane here ??

What a loser in false flag !:thumbdown:

Did or had the Chinese the intention to kill all the Baiyues like the Nazis did to the above mentioned groups of people?