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You didn't answer his question and instead asking baseless question. Sylheti families suffered for you Bengalis' stubborness and got separated from Pakistan due to Bengalis whim.

You should know that Islam comes first, then country then ethnicity. We want nothing to do with your ethnic nationalism

Islam comes first

And Islam doesn't force me to leave Bengali.

Take it into your head.

Just because Islam came first It was our holy duty to stand beside Mojlums of East Pakistan instead of Drunkard Yahya
 
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Islam comes first

And Islam doesn't force me to leave Bengali.

Take it into your head.

Just because Islam came first It was our holy duty to stand beside Mojlums of East Pakistan instead of Drunkard Yahya
Screw yahya .. lets talk facts.. here is the West Pak domination and looting your jute money:

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How do you claim that west Pak looted jute money from you guys? when East Pak never had any industry or even large agri lands and was plagued with floods and typhoons?

It was after Pak govt set up industry that the situation became better... your ordinance factories,govt insitutions,even parliament were all set up after the creation of Pak!
 
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If I wear an Indian dress and if it covers me enough why mY namaz won't be granted?

Probably be ok as per namaz but do you wear it when you go to Masjid or in home. You do not becasue it's not part of Muslimeen culture. This goes with your name, dress, how you speak, eat and do other things as coded in Quran and Sunnah.

Look it's straight forward, either you are side of Haq or Baatil.
 
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@kobiraaz would persian have been acceptable for you?

btwn this is the currency from the era when evil us were enforcing our non native language urdu on you:

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They are post 1952 currency most probably.

Anyway This language based discussion is fruitless with you because Pakistan accepted Bangla as the state language in 1956. This is a solved case.

Persian or Arabic as lingua franca would be more suitable I guess because Urdu only benefitted elites like Khaja Nazimuddin
 
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They are post 1952 currency most probably.

Anyway This language based discussion is fruitless with you because Pakistan accepted Bangla as the state language in 1956. This is a solved case.

A 5 rs note from september 1951:

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They are post 1952 currency most probably.

Anyway This language based discussion is fruitless with you because Pakistan accepted Bangla as the state language in 1956. This is a solved case.

Persian or Arabic as lingua franca would be more suitable I guess because Urdu only benefitted elites like Khaja Nazimuddin


However Bengali like your self would have oppose it. I guarantee it. It would not matter what the then Pakistan did, your dream was to established a nation based on shrink over Haq.

If you are so Islamic then you would have established true islami state but you didn't so Pakistani claiming Bengali as Hindu minded is not so wrong, is it?
 
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Probably be ok as per namaz but do you wear it when you go to Masjid or in home. You do not becasue it's not part of Muslimeen culture. This goes with your name, dress, how you speak, eat and do other things as coded in Quran and Sunnah.

Look it's straight forward, either you are side of Haq or Baatil.

I don't wear dhoti. Neither My Akeedah is wrong nor I follow Non Muslims.


Bengali is a Muslim Language. Tagore didn't Invent Bengali. This is a 16th century poem by Abdul.Hakim

কিতাব পড়িতে যার নাহিক অভ্যাস।
সে সবে কহিল মোতে মনে হাবিলাষ।।
তে কাজে নিবেদি বাংলা করিয়া রচন।
নিজ পরিশ্রম তোষি আমি সর্বজন।।
আরবি ফারসি শাস্ত্রে নাই কোন রাগ।
দেশী ভাষে বুঝিতে ললাটে পুরে ভাগ।।
আরবি ফারসি হিন্দে নাই দুই মত।
যদি বা লিখয়ে আল্লা নবীর ছিফত।।
যেই দেশে যেই বাক্য কহে নরগণ।
সেই বাক্য বুঝে প্রভু আপে নিরঞ্জন।।
সর্ববাক্য বুঝে প্রভু কিবা হিন্দুয়ানী।
বঙ্গদেশী বাক্য কিবা যত ইতি বাণী।।
মারফত ভেদে যার নাহিক গমন।
হিন্দুর অক্ষর হিংসে সে সবের গণ।।
যে সবে বঙ্গেত জন্মি হিংসে বঙ্গবাণী।
সে সব কাহার জন্ম নির্ণয় ন জানি।।
দেশী ভাষা বিদ্যা যার মনে না জুয়ায়।
নিজ দেশ তেয়াগী কেন বিদেশ ন যায়।।
মাতা পিতামহ ক্রমে বঙ্গেত বসতি।
দেশী ভাষা উপদেশ মনে হিত অতি।।


Why do you call it a tagore language born in1864 but not Hakimi language born in 1500s.
 
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Islam comes first
And Islam doesn't force me to leave Bengali.
Take it into your head.
Just because Islam came first It was our holy duty to stand beside Mojlums of East Pakistan instead of Drunkard Yahya
Now listen to me , Pakistanis learnt Urdu which wasn't their mother tongue as lingua franca for national unity. They were free to speak their mother tongues within their families and province, no one stopped them. Learning Urdu wouldn't eradicate your mother tongue. The other ethnicities did not have problem adopting Urdu then why couldn't Bengalis accept it. You people gave bad name to East Pakistan and we Sylhetis had to bear brunt of it culminating in the separation of East Pakistan.

Its our holy duty to support all Muslims irrespective of race, colour, creed and Allah swt has forbade us to fight amongst ourselves and especially against Muslim country. 300 pro-ML Biharis and Bengali Muslims were killed by Awami League in the month of February in Chittagong. The first provocation came It was the start of holy war. But because of traitors Mukti Bahini, Awami and East Pakistani Hindus who took help from pagan state India, Pakistan lost the war. It was shameful event in our history . Fighting for Islam is our foremost priority and I would never attack my Muslim brothers and sisters, and especially not by siding with an enemy pagan state. It was worst kind of treachery which Awami League and Mukti Bahini did in '71. Allah swt will deal with them
 
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How much Urdu related to Arabic...I think its just a mixture of Hindi and Iranian language.. Very few Arabic words are in Urdu language...
 
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Now listen to me , Pakistanis learnt Urdu which wasn't their mother tongue as lingua franca for national unity. They were free to speak their mother tongues within their families and province, no one stopped them. Learning Urdu wouldn't eradicate your mother tongue. The other ethnicities did not have problem adopting Urdu then why couldn't Bengalis accept it. You people gave bad name to East Pakistan and we Sylhetis had to bear brunt of it culminating in the separation of East Pakistan.

Its our holy duty to support all Muslims irrespective of race, colour, creed and Allah swt has forbade us to fight amongst ourselves and especially against Muslim country. 300 pro-ML Biharis and Bengali Muslims were killed by Awami League in the month of February in Chittagong. It was the start of holy war. But because of traitors like Mukti Bahini, Awami and East Pakistani Hindus who took help from pagan state India, Pakistan lost the war. It was shameful event in our history and all blame goes to you people. Fighting for Islam is our foremost priority and I would never attack my Muslim brothers and sisters, and especially not by siding with an enemy pagan state. It was worst kind of treachery which Awami League and Mukti Bahini did in '71. Allah swt will deal with them

I dont know when people here accuse us of racism.. i dont see any racism in Pak.. yes all ethnic groups stereotype eachother .. but than what happens everywhere.. i belong to a mil family and have friends from all ethnic groups.. yes we joke about eachother... i mock my Pashtun frnds for being homos ( my wife is also Pashtun).. I mock my Panjabi pals.. and they mock me .. yes we joke about the stereotypes.. so what? does that mean we are racist?

If so than than how come we are one of the least racist countries:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/

Or is it that a racist nation changed into a non racist society overnight in just 1 generation?
 
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A 5 rs note from september 1951:

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Well, I have already explained to you. You won't understand it because you have no idea if Bengali Mentality.

Let me tell you in short

The language " Bangla " was banned from court by Hindu Rajas who adopted Sanskrit over Bengali. After Muslim conquest they reintroduced Bangla, Thus making it the prominent language alongside Farsi.

Most of the Bengali books of Middle Age was commissioned by Sultans not Rajas.

After East India Company Seized power, They strengthen Hindu position in Bangla weakening Muslims by taking Wakf properties mainly because Muslims refused to accept English.

Thus Hindu writers flourished and Bengali Muslims turned into a nation of farmers fishermen etc.

The Bengal Renaissance started by the Hindus in 1800s in the absence of Muslim intellectuals, also benefitted by the establishment of Press in Kolkata.

Muslims of that Era worked hard, very hard to claim Bangla Back. Most of the Bengali Muslim writers of 1900-1947 were trying to reclaim Bengali.

Most of our notable writers were from that era. And Pakistan chose a wrong time to assault on the very foundation that we were trying hard to proclaim.
 
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I don't wear dhoti. Neither My Akeedah is wrong nor I follow Non Muslims.


Bengali is a Muslim Language. Tagore didn't Invent Bengali. This is a 16th century poem by Abdul.Hakim

কিতাব পড়িতে যার নাহিক অভ্যাস।
সে সবে কহিল মোতে মনে হাবিলাষ।।
তে কাজে নিবেদি বাংলা করিয়া রচন।
নিজ পরিশ্রম তোষি আমি সর্বজন।।
আরবি ফারসি শাস্ত্রে নাই কোন রাগ।
দেশী ভাষে বুঝিতে ললাটে পুরে ভাগ।।
আরবি ফারসি হিন্দে নাই দুই মত।
যদি বা লিখয়ে আল্লা নবীর ছিফত।।
যেই দেশে যেই বাক্য কহে নরগণ।
সেই বাক্য বুঝে প্রভু আপে নিরঞ্জন।।
সর্ববাক্য বুঝে প্রভু কিবা হিন্দুয়ানী।
বঙ্গদেশী বাক্য কিবা যত ইতি বাণী।।
মারফত ভেদে যার নাহিক গমন।
হিন্দুর অক্ষর হিংসে সে সবের গণ।।
যে সবে বঙ্গেত জন্মি হিংসে বঙ্গবাণী।
সে সব কাহার জন্ম নির্ণয় ন জানি।।
দেশী ভাষা বিদ্যা যার মনে না জুয়ায়।
নিজ দেশ তেয়াগী কেন বিদেশ ন যায়।।
মাতা পিতামহ ক্রমে বঙ্গেত বসতি।
দেশী ভাষা উপদেশ মনে হিত অতি।।


Why do you call it a tagore language born in1864 but not Hakimi language born in 1500s.

Official language of Muslim Bengal until fall of Nawab Siraj Ud dawla was Farsi. So where do you find current form of Bangla anywhere within Muslim population as formal language. So you know Nawab Siraj was Persian.

Bangla was formalized by Hindu with the the help of brits in order to demise Muslims as Muslim was their opponent at that time. Muslim did not formalized Bangla language. Period.

Our Muslims forefather spoke musalmani Bengal which was heavily mixed with Farsi and Arabic. Syloti can be term as musalmani Bangla because it's loaded with Farsi. Probably this is the reason we Syloti can speak Urdu.
 
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এই ভাষা অফিস আদালতে বললে গলা ধাক্কা দিবে না তো কি দিবে?

আর কোন যুক্তিতে এই বে আক্কেল প্রশ্ন করে চাইনিজরা কোন উপভাষা শিখে? ভাষা রেখে উপভাষা শিখবে কেন? এরকমের বলদের মত প্রশ্ন করলে ইন্সাল্ট করা জায়েজ।
The Sylhetis are the boss in office. So who will boot the Sylhetis? By the way I am from Dhaka not SylhetI. You cannot insult someone for their accent. Be nice
 
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Now listen to me , Pakistanis learnt Urdu which wasn't their mother tongue as lingua franca for national unity. They were free to speak their mother tongues within their families and province, no one stopped them. Learning Urdu wouldn't eradicate your mother tongue. The other ethnicities did not have problem adopting Urdu then why couldn't Bengalis accept it. You people gave bad name to East Pakistan and we Sylhetis had to bear brunt of it culminating in the separation of East Pakistan.

Its our holy duty to support all Muslims irrespective of race, colour, creed and Allah swt has forbade us to fight amongst ourselves and especially against Muslim country. 300 pro-ML Biharis and Bengali Muslims were killed by Awami League in the month of February in Chittagong. The first provocation came It was the start of holy war. But because of traitors Mukti Bahini, Awami and East Pakistani Hindus who took help from pagan state India, Pakistan lost the war. It was shameful event in our history . Fighting for Islam is our foremost priority and I would never attack my Muslim brothers and sisters, and especially not by siding with an enemy pagan state. It was worst kind of treachery which Awami League and Mukti Bahini did in '71. Allah swt will deal with them[/QUO

Allah has dealt with them already . They have become puppets of the highest order .

http://thediplomat.com/2016/10/bangladesh-just-became-a-vassal-state/

Bangladesh Just Became a Vassal State
Sheikh Hasina’s crackdown on dissent leaves her government overreliant on Delhi’s support.

By Esam Sohail
October 04, 2016


While the excuse was the usual one of “interference in internal affairs,” Bangladesh’s perfectly choreographed dovetailing to India’s refusal to attend the Islamabad South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) conference removed any doubt remaining about the relationship between those two neighbors. To put it charitably, Bangladesh under the Sheikh Hasina regime is far closer to the stature of Bhutan and Maldives vis-à-vis India than to, say, pluckier Nepal and prickly Sri Lanka. Under the current Bangladeshi government, the relationship between Dhaka and Delhi has steadily evolved from being that of two theoretically sovereign and equal nations to one of client and vassal in the image of the former communist countries of the Eastern Bloc and the erstwhile USSR. Very similar dynamics are at work as well.

After securing a comfortable victory in Bangladesh’s last free elections in 2008, Hasina quickly moved to ensure – like the Communists in the aftermath of the immediate post-World War II elections in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland, and East Germany – that the painfully built up democratic institutions would never again be used to end her Awami League party’s rule. To that effect, she first broke long the long-held tradition of respecting seniority and appointed her sympathizers to the highest bench of the judiciary. She quickly followed by stacking the technically neutral Election Commission with known cronies and non-entities.

The coup de grace came in 2011 when her parliament, where floor crossing results in cancellation of membership, dutifully got rid of the linchpin of free elections in Bangladesh since 1990: the neutral, election-time caretaker government provision. Not surprisingly, the Supreme Court, by then fully staffed by Hasina’s hand-picked men, was persuaded to give a judgment against the constitutional amendment that had created the caretaker provision. As to how a constitutional Amendment, approved by an internationally supervised popular referendum, could be “unconstitutional” is best left up to the chicanery of judges who have much more in common with the “people’s” judges of the USSR than with those in independent judiciaries.

With the results of any future elections not in doubt and the judiciary suitably tamed, the Awami League government moved decisively to make all dissent very costly, without being so overt as to look askance to European and North American donors. Newspapers and television stations deemed not suitably obeisant to the concept of “chetona” (the Awami ideology that mixes a cult of Hasina’s family with a carefully crafted historical narrative) were shut down. Several prominent newsmen were sent to jail where some still rot without any judicial verdicts against them. New laws on cyber crimes and defamation were hurriedly passed to make any negative reference to members of the ruling family or to the ruling party’s historical narrative a criminal offense.

By the time the next national elections came around in 2014, the results were never in any doubt and the main secular opposition parties saw no point in contesting them. Subsequent elections to local government bodies followed the typical pattern where any opposition figures brave enough to contest or journalists courageous enough to report the irregularities were either beaten up by the Awami League-affiliated Bangladesh Chhatra League (BCL) or roughed up by the police. By early 2015, it was quite clear that the only parts of organized society not controlled by the ruling party were a couple of professional and trade bodies, and some human rights related NGOs. Using organizational elections in the same manner as the national ones, that year the journalists union, the national bar council, and the apex chamber of commerce were all brought under the control of pro-Awami League executives while the last two remaining non-Awami League mayors of major cities were jailed by the regime. All funds coming to NGOs from abroad were required, by new regulations, to be escrowed in government accounts and released only on showing that their educational or human rights work was not a threat to the regime’s sinecure. As if to send a message to the remaining independent journalists, the government orchestrated 88 separate defamation cases against the editor of the premier English newspaperDaily Star. (That the said editor had long been a vocal proponent of the Awami League narrative was not enough to balance against his occasional critique of the regime’s election-time hijinks.)

Bangladesh’s second experiment with pluralist democracy, which began in 1990, is dead. Yet Hasina knows her country and its people well enough to realize how volatile 160 million Bengalis in a 56,000 square mile parcel of land can be. In the absence of any electoral legitimacy, her autocracy is undergirded by the troika of formal security services, which have become very adept at making key dissenters and their family members “disappear”; BCL, which regularly uses street violence to break up any attempts at non-Awami League rallies and processions; and the benevolence of the Narendra Modi government in India. The most important of this troika is, of course, the last one mentioned: with the Obama administration having subcontracted most of its South Asia policy to New Delhi, the mandarins at South Block are both the sword and the shield of the Hasina regime.

For Dhaka to have a foreign policy different than its patron in Delhi would have been a surprise. By meekly following India’s lead in pulling out of the now-postponed SAARC Summit, Bangladesh triggered no surprise.
 
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