INS Kolkata, navy’s most powerful warship, to be delivered next month

[jaiind]

These ship is the real beast for IN.....

 

[Sourya Kharb]

Good news for Indian Navy and India

 

[IND151]

Is that synonymous with the 'Kashtan' system?

No they are different.

I was agreeing with you.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Yes, they have AK 630.

P-15As will have the AK-630 and Barak-1 for CIWS whilst the P-15Bs will have a new gun based CIWS for which a contest is running as we speak.

 

[Ronin]

Land attack capability is limited, 300 km is not enough
Hope they add nirbhay later.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

"Indian warship building is coming of age and the Indo-Pacific region knows it. Last week, when an Indian Navy frigate, INS Shivalik, visited China’s Qingdao naval base, China’s navy chief, Admiral Wu Shengli, asked the captain for a tour of the Combat Information Centre, the operation heart of the warship. The Shivalik’s young skipper, Captain Puruvir Das, turned down Wu’s request.

The Chinese admiral would be even more interested in touring INS Kolkata, 7,200 tonnes of bristling steel, which could join the navy as early as next month as the most powerful and high-tech warship in its 140-vessel fleet. Tonne for tonne, the Kolkata will be amongst the most potent battleships in the hotly contested waters of the Indo-Pacific"


What kind of an opening is this? You have your Kolkata, we have the 052C and 052D. Its not like the Admiral is missing out on much....

 

[Abingdonboy]

What kind of an opening is this? You have your Kolkata, we have the 052C and 052D. Its not like the Admiral is missing out on much....

And yet the Adm moral was quite insistant on breaking established protocols and seeing the INS's CIC

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

And yet the Adm moral was quite insistant on breaking established protocols and seeing the INS's CIC

He is an Admiral and the ship was in the Chinese city of Qingdao. Whats there to see that he hasn't seen already? The 052C class has been round for a decade.

 

[Abingdonboy]

He is an Admiral and the ship was in the Chinese city of Qingdao. Whats there to see that he hasn't seen already? The 052C class has been round for a decade.

And yet he broke international norms and insisted, if what you're saying is correct (there is nothing he would find interesting on the Shivlaik) then he wouldn't have done this surely? Show some humility perhaps and admit maybe others have something that you don't.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

He is an Admiral and the ship was in the Chinese city of Qingdao. Whats there to see that he hasn't seen already? The 052C class has been round for a decade.

Oh wait, it was the Shivalik class in Qingdao! Chinese 054A has been built in large numbers for many years and approaching 20 in number.

 

[Omega007]

Thanks for this news Mike.The P 15A DDGs will be among the last few warships of India that have been constructed using the outdated techniques where at first the hulls and superstructure are completed,then sections of the hulls are cut open to install the propulsion,driving and electrical sub systems and then the hulls are welded back together.All these coupled with the effed up non-existent work culture in the MoD owned ship building industries takes much longer times to complete an warship which ultimately results in operational deficiency and shortfall in IN.

Hopefully,with the latest computerised modular ship building infrastructures coming online in GRSE and MDL along with HSL will cut short the delay in the next P 15B DDG and P 17A FFG constructions.
Besides,I also hope that the superstructure of next batches of warships are constructed with light weight carbon fibre composite materials like GRSE is doing with the last two of the four Project P 28 Kamorta class corvettes and since India has prior production engineering knowledge of fabricating carbon based structures.
And I do hope there is enough space left in these DDGs to refit them with a 10-12 sell VLS for Nirbhay LACMs when it's inducted into service.

And lastly,as per this report,it needs ~400 sailors and officers to run a single P 15A DDG which means our ship building industry has much more catch up to do with the NATO ship builders in terms of automation.
We wonder why does a western ship like Type 45 DDG costs more.One reason being increased automation of their warships which although results in greater acquisition costs but they are cheaper to operate in the long run due to reduced numbers of crew needed.Less crew members mean increased operational readiness,you need less space for their accommodations,less quantity of foods and other consumables necessary means again less space needed.Thus you can make your ships sample,accommodation facilities will be less cramped and more comfortable and more over you can lug in more weapons and fuel into the hull.
I hope our Naval Design Bureau takes these matters into accounts while designing the next batches of warships.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

And yet he broke international norms and insisted, if what you're saying is correct (there is nothing he would find interesting on the Shivlaik) then he wouldn't have done this surely? Show some humility perhaps and admit maybe others have something that you don't.

Please provide evidence that he 'Insisted'. An admiral boarding visiting ships during fleet review is a courtesy. There is nothing to envy in the Shivalik class.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Please provide evidence that he 'Insisted'. An admiral boarding visiting ships during fleet review is a courtesy. There is nothing to envy in the Shivalik class.

We have nothing left to say to one another then.

 

[Agent_47]

Wounder which Medium helo will it have ? We haven't ordered them yet !
Same goes for Heavy torpedo !

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Wounder which Medium helo will it have ? We haven't ordered them yet !
Same goes for Heavy torpedo !

There is (or will be) a Competitive Tender for the Heavy Torps, IIRC. One of the contendors is the Seehake from Krupp.
Initially the Seakings and Chetaks will operate off her deck pending the final selection of their respective replacements.