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PRC missile could render PAC-3s obsolete
PRC missile could render PAC-3s obsolete - Taipei Times

NO DEFENSE?The faster re-entry of a longer-range missile would greatly reduce the effectiveness of PAC-3 missile interceptors acquired from the US, analysts said

By J. Michael Cole / Staff Reporter

A new longer-range ballistic missile allegedly deployed by China and the introduction of multiple warhead capabilities could render obsolete Taiwan’s most advanced missile interceptors, analysts said yesterday.

National Security Bureau (NSB) Director Tsai Der-sheng (蔡得勝) told the legislature on Wednesday that China had recently begun deploying Dong Feng-16 (DF-16) ballistic missiles with a range of between 800km and 1,000km, and that some were targeting Taiwan.

One US expert with years of experience monitoring developments in China’s missile arsenal told the Taipei Times that while literature on the DF-16 was scarce, the fact that a different designation had been referenced implied that the system was sufficiently different from existing missiles.

Another, Rick Fisher, a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center in Washington, said chances the DF-16 is the “real deal” were high, adding that the new system would likely incorporate advances in solid rocket fuel, guidance and warhead design. He admitted this was the first time he had seen references to the DF-16 designation.

Alarmingly, the faster re-entry of a longer-range ballistic missile such as the DF-16 would greatly reduce the effectiveness of Taiwan’s PAC-3 missile interceptors that were acquired at great cost from the US and which are still in the process of being deployed.

The longer the range of a ballistic missile, the higher it must climb to reach its target and the higher it climbs, the more time it takes for it to fall to the ground, giving gravity more time to accelerate the descent of the warhead at a rate of about 9.8m per second squared.

“All the PAC-3s are not yet in the field, but when they are, they can potentially be defeated by the faster 1,000km DF-16,” Fisher said.

In addition, new long-range missiles would give China’s leadership the ability to make “peace gestures,” such as withdrawing older DF-15s, without any substantial reduction of military pressure on Taiwan, he said.

The removal of some missiles targeting Taiwan has been touted as a potential “goodwill” gesture by Beijing to help President Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九) get re-elected next year.

Ballistic missiles with a range such as that attributed to the DF-16 could be deployed at the Second Artillery’s 52 Base in Anhui Province and target Taiwan as well as US bases in the region, such as Okinawa and Guam.

According to a study by the Project 2049 Institute, 52 Base oversees five short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) brigades and as many as three medium-range ballistic missile brigades. It remains unclear whether 52 Base is being equipped with a new brigade for the DF-16 or whether they would replace older SRBMs.

Wendell Minnick, Asia bureau chief for Defense News, was more skeptical on the DF-16 representing a new type of missile, saying it was likely a variant of the existing DF-15, which has a range of about 600km.

“Honestly, I can’t see how all the US analysts missed it, if it is ‘deployed,’” Minnick said. “I suspect he [Tsai] is saying the DF-15 extended range is the new ‘DF-16,’ but the lack of details during his testimony annoys me to no end.”

“It’s possible they [the government] are trying to scare the US into releasing new F-16 fighters and submarines,” Minnick said.

During his presentation, Tsai also said that most of China’s missiles now had multiple warheads capable of hitting different targets, such as radar sites and planes at airports.

While it is known that the DF-21 “aircraft carrier killer” — which Tsai said was also recently deployed — has multiple warheads, news that smaller missiles in the Chinese arsenal have multiple reentry vehicles (MRVs) would be a worrying development, Fisher said.

“PAC-3s can only handle one incoming missile target, not [several] MRVs,” he said, adding that the US had recently canceled a missile defense program intended to give missile interceptors the ability to take out MRVs.

Is the News release info true or false ? Or Taiwan is just coming up with DUMB excuse to hike her own defense budget ???
 
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True, today's PLA armed force is enough to take the whole Taiwan within 3 days without having US intervention.

US needs to get the nod from their congress for two weeks before they can directly come for rescue.

BTW, the only reason that China would not launch the military attack on Taiwan is because we don't want to become the kinslayers.

CCP is always expecting Taiwan could come back with peace.
 
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True, today's PLA armed force is enough to take the whole Taiwan within 3 days without having US intervention.

US needs to get the nod from their congressional for two weeks before they can directly come for rescue.

BTW, the only reason that China would not launch the military attack on Taiwan is because we don't want to become the kinslayers.

CCP is always expecting Taiwan could come back with peace.

Buddy, you don't need congressional approval to disintergrate Chinese ships enroute Taiwan. It's at the discretion of the president to act in accordance to set legislatures, in this case, the ambiguous Taiwan Relations Act of 1979.

Three days is adequate to decapacitate long-range Taiwanese defense systems. It'll take 11 more to board and conquer the island if the local populace resists.

Remember "3 days Beijing 3 months China?"
 
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I think the Taiwan Relations Act is illegal. What would Washington do if Texas, California, Alaska, or Florida secedes from the United States and is protected by Chinese forces with their own "Relations Act" ?
 
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I do have serious reservation re Taiwanese military's intelligence gathering ability on the mainland after they came out and stated J-20 didn't exist days before the test flight. But what they said about DF-16 seems to be close to what has been circulating on the Internet about a 'conventional MIRV missile'. I don't think the U.S will restart their research on anti-MIRV missile defense system just for Taiwan, but they may pursue it if it's determined the new missile will pose a serious threat to Guam.
 
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I do have serious reservation re Taiwanese military's intelligence gathering ability on the mainland after they came out and stated J-20 didn't exist days before the test flight. But what they said about DF-16 seems to be close to what has been circulating on the Internet about a 'conventional MIRV missile'. I don't think the U.S will restart their research on anti-MIRV missile defense system just for Taiwan, but they may pursue it if it's determined the new missile will pose a serious threat to Guam.

Agreed. Apparently the DF-16 is a propeller plane made in the 60s.
 
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Buddy, you don't need congressional approval to disintergrate Chinese ships enroute Taiwan. It's at the discretion of the president to act in accordance to set legislatures, in this case, the ambiguous Taiwan Relations Act of 1979.

Three days is adequate to decapacitate long-range Taiwanese defense systems. It'll take 11 more to board and conquer the island if the local populace resists.

Remember "3 days Beijing 3 months China?"

And then we nuke US and Japan and its game over for the world. Does the US want to risk that?
 
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And then we nuke US and Japan and its game over for the world. Does the US want to risk that?

Taiwan is considered to be the cannon fodder for US, they won't attack us because of Taiwan.

It was CCP who decided to act nice with Taiwan.
 
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1# PLA guarantees within five days of occupation of Taiwan, destroy all the regular army.
Consider the intelligence capabilities of both sides, We should believe that PLA.

2# If the US intervention in Taiwan, we should not hesitate to attack the USA aircraft carrier. Start the war in the coastal region, that is an advantage for us. As long as the USA failed once, they will collapse the global strategic system. We should even to attack aircraft carriers at first, and change Taiwan to the secondary objectives.

3# Make preparations for nuclear war.
 
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1# PLA guarantees within five days of occupation of Taiwan, destroy all the regular army.
Consider the intelligence capabilities of both sides, We should believe that PLA.

2# If the US intervention in Taiwan, we should not hesitate to attack the USA aircraft carrier. Start the war in the coastal region, that is an advantage for us. As long as the USA failed once, they will collapse the global strategic system. We should even to attack aircraft carriers at first, and change Taiwan to the secondary objectives.

3# Make preparations for nuclear war.

Yeah, ready with 10,000 nukes to blow the Earth into the stone age.
 
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Yeah, ready with 10,000 nukes to blow the Earth into the stone age.

:coffee: No first use of nuclear weapons. But We should have the ability and courage to destroy the world with nuclear weapons.
Peace comes from strength and courage, not from begging.
If the USA must be a war with China, coast is the best battlefield for us. We should not hesitate to accept the gauntlet.
 
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:coffee: No first use of nuclear weapons. But We should have the ability and courage to destroy the world with nuclear weapons.
Peace comes from strength and courage, not from begging.

Yes, we should have enough nukes to finish off US + the rest of their Western cronies.

Maybe even Russia, since they gonna definitely attack us after China and the Western nations just killed each other after a nuclear exchange.
 
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Peace comes from strength no sir I beg to differ it comes from morals and convictions
 
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Very true indeed sir but again you can always find some good ppl among the barbarians
 
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