Indus script early form of Dravidian

[SrNair]

Depends who made millions upon millions of indigenous people into slaves aka shudras, and made their woman halal for upper caste men.

Seems you dont know anything about Caste system.
Dalits dont protest for their own nation.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Seems you dont know anything about Caste system.
Dalits dont protest for their own nation.

Sree bhai

What do you mean by what you just wrote?

thank you.

 

[abjktu]

Dravida = Tamil , so I am right, no need for your unwanted correction , next time please follow the full discussion on this topic before jumping on board mid way, thank you

Please,Its like saying Pakistan culture=urdu mujahir..
Before preaching others your mullah ideology,you should learn at least some basics about Tamil and other dravidan languages....

 

[FaujHistorian]

Please,Its like saying Pakistan culture=urdu mujahir..
Before preaching others your mullah ideology,you should learn at least some basics about Tamil and other dravidan languages....

bhai jaan.

read op before commenting.

 

[Sriram]

Are you sure about words??
Then what about latchanam,Nitchayam,seekiram,jaasthi,Thayaar,natchathiram,sooryan,kashtam,naasam,mosam, vyapaaram,kalyanam etc etc??

Usage.. For example We have kadiravan for sun.. We use lots of English words even though there are equalent Tamil words.. Due to cultural exchanges we started using those words commonly that doesn't mean there are no native words. Let's say by these words dead Sanskrit language is being remembered

 

[Sriram]

North Indians who have lost their culture due to 800 years of foreign culture and language imposition should bask in the culture of pristine untampered south and not try to destroy it out of jealosy

 

[abjktu]

bhai jaan.

read op before commenting.

Yes,That was meant for manlion..He is equating whole of South India with Tamils...They are lot of linguistic/ethnic groups apart from Tamils living here,for eg.Telegus,Kannada,Malayalis,Tulus,kodavas,badagas etc etc..Most importantly Its telegus who form majority among SI population..

 

[Jit]

this is funny thing, Tamil never borrowed any words or poetry or grammar from any language. Thirukural is one of the oldest not the oldest one in tamil. even that kind of poetry never avl. in most of the language in present time too. we tamil knows what our culture is, all dravidian language like malayalam, kanada, telugu derived from tamil only.




the ariyan invasion is simply a stupid thing created by brits, ....

Trichy - every language in use has borrowed words. while both are ancient, thamizh being curremtly in wide use has taken many words from English, french, Spanis, Portugese, Persian, urdu etc. Specific to Sanskrite here is a huge list of Sanskrit words adopted in Thamizh and used in Thirukkural search for sanskrit_in_tamil_literature.pdf in google or wordpress

I also thing the aryan invasion theory is based on half baked science created by Max Mueler without adequate native understanding of Sanskrit and subsequently propogated by colonial powers (with or without malice...)

 

[manlion]

Malayalam,Kannada,Telugu all are Dravidian language and also Dravidians.And In our culture marriage between Uncle and niece is not possible.

Actually you are the same one who cant differentiate between Tamil and Kannada.Why are you talking too much Tamil in here?

is the world coming to an end ? Malayalam etc acknowledge themselves as Dravidians lol,

The context of reference is race - i.e people and culture i.e Dravidian = Tamils , nothing to do with languages , you are confusing the two i.e language and racial group ......

 

[FaujHistorian]

Trichy - every language in use has borrowed words. while both are ancient, thamizh being curremtly in wide use has taken many words from English, french, Spanis, Portugese, Persian, urdu etc. Specific to Sanskrite here is a huge list of Sanskrit words adopted in Thamizh and used in Thirukkural search for sanskrit_in_tamil_literature.pdf in google or wordpress

I also thing the aryan invasion theory is based on half baked science created by Max Mueler without adequate native understanding of Sanskrit and subsequently propogated by colonial powers (with or without malice...)

In reality it is Aryan Occupation that resulted in millions of natives turned into shudras and slaves.

Kind of like what Whites did to native Americans or Australian aborigines.

With one exception though.

Untouchability was enshrined in the religion of higher caste Hindus.

 

[Jit]

South Indian hindu kings used to claim central asian origin, last time i checked Tipu Sultan was muslim.

so the point you are really proving by your reasoning is that it those people of India who were raped and converted that have their ancestry from central asia and other lands....most if not all of muslims from Indian subcontinent fall under that definition - so when Pakistan was created with minor exceptions rest of the Pakistani population being muslim is the one that can claim being victims of the invasive rapes. How do you change that to mean SI kings or anyone else?

 

[Jit]

In reality it is Aryan Occupation that resulted in millions of natives turned into shudras and slaves.

Kind of like what Whites did to native Americans or Australian aborigines.

With one exception though.

Untouchability was enshrined in the religion of higher caste Hindus.

FaujiH - that is precisely what has been debunked with original research in the past 25 years. Before that everyone used believe the flawed science used by westerners with limited or errorneous knowledge of Sanskrit

 

[abjktu]

Usage.. For example We have kadiravan for sun.. We use lots of English words even though there are equalent Tamil words.. Due to cultural exchanges we started using those words commonly that doesn't mean there are no native words. Let's say by these words dead Sanskrit language is being remembered

Its same in all other Dravidian languages...We have native words for every Sanskrit loan words..
The old Malayalam word for sun is 'njayar'(njayiru in old Tamil also)..

 

[manlion]

‘Indus script early form of Dravidian’ - The Hindu
Referring to two divergent streams arising from the Indus Valley civilisation, he said, ‘’the Earliest Old Tamil, which has retained the Dravidian roots of the Indus phrase still, is firmly interlinked, but with modified meanings.”

String of names
The results reveal “a string of names and titles associated with the Pandian dynasty’’ whose remote ancestors were probably traders in the Indus civilisation, he said.

After the collapse of the Indus civilisation, he said in his paper that a section of the Indus Valley population had migrated to south India and the “the Indus Dravidian influenced the South Dravidian languages”. The earliest traces of such migratory influence are found in the ‘Old Tamil’..

Please,Its like saying Pakistan culture=urdu mujahir..
Before preaching others your mullah ideology,you should learn at least some basics about Tamil and other dravidan languages....

nice try , putting your words into my mouth ? IVC script is old Tamil not 500 yr old Malayalam or later developed Kannada etc , if you have a issue with me associating Dravid with Tamil take it up with Mahadevan unlike your Hindutva counterparts , I didn't coin or invent any new theory

 

[Jit]

Usage.. For example We have kadiravan for sun.. We use lots of English words even though there are equalent Tamil words.. Due to cultural exchanges we started using those words commonly that doesn't mean there are no native words. Let's say by these words dead Sanskrit language is being remembered

Yes but that is not all of it. Even if a language has many words to mean the same thing, if over time a borrowed term is used more frequently for whatever reason, that language absorbs it and that is how languages grow and survive. For example 99.9% of today's Tamil people will not understand what the original Tamil literature, including Thirukkuram means because so much word replacement and mutations have taken place. They will be able to read most of it but will not be able to say it out correctly enough with the correct conjugation, and not understand the meaning.