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@Song Hong Are we going to believe you or UN fact finding team that comprise of intelligent and respected persons ????

Genocide threat for Myanmar’s Rohingya greater than ever, investigators warn Human Rights Council

16 September 2019

Human Rights
Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Rohingya who remain in Myanmar may face a greater threat of genocide than ever, amid Government attempts to “erase their identity and remove them from the country”, UN-appointed independent investigators said on Monday.

In a report detailing alleged violations in Myanmar over the last year, the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission, insists that many of the conditions that led to “killings, rapes and gang rapes, torture, forced displacement and other grave rights violations” by the country’s military, that prompted some 700,000 Rohingya to flee to neighbouring Bangladesh in 2017, are still present.


Citing the lack of accountability for the perpetrators of these alleged crimes, as well as the failure by Myanmar “to investigate genocide and to enact effective legislation criminalizing and punishing genocide”, the UN-appointed independent panel concludes “that the evidence that infers genocidal intent on the part of the State…has strengthened, that there is a serious risk that genocidal actions may occur or recur”.

Echoing those findings, Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Myanmar, Yanghee Lee told the Human Rights Council earlier on Monday that Myanmar had “done nothing to dismantle the system of violence and persecution” against the Rohingya who live in the “same dire circumstances that they did, prior to the events of August 2017”.

Citing satellite imagery of destroyed Rohingya villages, Ms. Lee questioned Myanmar’s assertion that it rebuilt areas affected by the violence, given that there were “six military bases that have been built on the site of destroyed Rohingya villages”.

Of nearly 400 Rohingya villages apparently destroyed, “there has been no attempt to reconstruct 320 of them”, the Special Rapporteur noted, and four in 10 villages had been “completely razed to the ground”.

Some of that demolition occurred in 2018 and some even in 2019 “and all of this is completely antithetical to the claim that Myanmar is ready to receive the refugees (back from Bangladesh)”, Ms. Lee insisted.

600,000 Rohingya ‘remain the target’ of Myanmar authorities
According to the International Fact-Finding Mission’s near 200-page report, the abuses it found were not on the same scale as the “clearance operations” conducted against Rohingya communities in the summer of 2017.

Nonetheless, the 600,000 mainly-Muslim Rohingya still in Myanmar “remain the target” of Government efforts to remove them from the country, the expert panel insisted.

The threats the Rohingya minority face include a “continuation of hate speech” and discrimination that affects their ability to work, attend school, seek medical care “or even pray and congregate”, the report notes.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/09/1046442
 
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The same fact finding team from United Nations and the OPCW explicitly blamed the Syrian military of Bashar al-Assad for dropping chemical weapons.

They should stay in Yangon and ask the Muslims (about 20% of population) why are you still around?


@Song Hong Are we going to believe you or UN fact finding team that comprise of intelligent and respected persons ????

16 September 2019

Human Rights
Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Rohingya who remain in Myanmar may face a greater threat of genocide than ever, amid Government attempts to “erase their identity and remove them from the country”, UN-appointed independent investigators said on Monday.

In a report detailing alleged violations in Myanmar over the last year, the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission, insists that many of the conditions that led to “killings, rapes and gang rapes, torture, forced displacement and other grave rights violations” by the country’s military, that prompted some 700,000 Rohingya to flee to neighbouring Bangladesh in 2017, are still present.


Citing the lack of accountability for the perpetrators of these alleged crimes, as well as the failure by Myanmar “to investigate genocide and to enact effective legislation criminalizing and punishing genocide”, the UN-appointed independent panel concludes “that the evidence that infers genocidal intent on the part of the State…has strengthened, that there is a serious risk that genocidal actions may occur or recur”.

Echoing those findings, Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Myanmar, Yanghee Lee told the Human Rights Council earlier on Monday that Myanmar had “done nothing to dismantle the system of violence and persecution” against the Rohingya who live in the “same dire circumstances that they did, prior to the events of August 2017”.

Citing satellite imagery of destroyed Rohingya villages, Ms. Lee questioned Myanmar’s assertion that it rebuilt areas affected by the violence, given that there were “six military bases that have been built on the site of destroyed Rohingya villages”.

Of nearly 400 Rohingya villages apparently destroyed, “there has been no attempt to reconstruct 320 of them”, the Special Rapporteur noted, and four in 10 villages had been “completely razed to the ground”.

Some of that demolition occurred in 2018 and some even in 2019 “and all of this is completely antithetical to the claim that Myanmar is ready to receive the refugees (back from Bangladesh)”, Ms. Lee insisted.

600,000 Rohingya ‘remain the target’ of Myanmar authorities
According to the International Fact-Finding Mission’s near 200-page report, the abuses it found were not on the same scale as the “clearance operations” conducted against Rohingya communities in the summer of 2017.

Nonetheless, the 600,000 mainly-Muslim Rohingya still in Myanmar “remain the target” of Government efforts to remove them from the country, the expert panel insisted.

The threats the Rohingya minority face include a “continuation of hate speech” and discrimination that affects their ability to work, attend school, seek medical care “or even pray and congregate”, the report notes.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/09/1046442
 
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You never been Myanmar. I traveled in Myanmar more than once. I been from Yangon to Mandalay by road. I been Techilek, the Golden Triangle.

I also been Chinese Kachin state.

I trek along mountains of Thailand and border towns that host Kachin, Karen, Shan refugees.

Rohingya wage insurgencies while those in Yangon do not.

That makes a difference.

What I see is racial harmony in Yangon. By observation, Yangon has a lot of mosque, a lot of mosque. There are a lot a lot of Muslims, and female in Hijab. Yangon could be 20% Muslims.

Surely if Rohingya behave like Chinese Indonesian, Myanmar army is going to kiss them and wish them long life.

Unfortunately many PDF bigots choose not to see the atrocities of cry baby Rohingya. At elsewhere, these PDF Muslims or Indians keep raising extreme or uncommon cases or just simple using fake news video.

The most religion intolerance state is Saudi Arabia.

Surely in Western narrative, all their enemies are against Islam, China vs Uighur and Myanmar vs Rohingya. White man media already has no credibility.
We have a word for people like & it's called "Tourist"

Just because you can afford a plane ticket to go to a country doesn't mean you are an expert on that country. Meanwhile I deferred to the people that actually lived there & the actual experts on the country not from anecdotal evidences.

Everyone & their grandmother have tried to secede & have committed terrorist attack on burma. Rohingya is nothing special but they are special in how the Burmese government are treating them in comparison to other ethnic groups.

Also edit: Are you mental? Assad have used chemical weapons. This is a clear example that you live in an alternate reality that you even deny facts because you don't like what it said.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Timeline-of-Syrian-Chemical-Weapons-Activity
 
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Yangon has more religion freedom compared to Malaysia. Below Yangon Shia celebrating Ashura.

In Malaysia, this is a criminal offence. Malaysia is one of most anti Islam country.

In Myanmar all law abiding race and religion live in harmony.

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The same fact finding team from United Nations and the OPCW explicitly blamed the Syrian military of Bashar al-Assad for dropping chemical weapons.

They should stay in Yangon and ask the Muslims (about 20% of population) why are you still around?
20%? According to government data muslims were 4% of the total population of Myanmar now it's less than 3% after Rohingya left.
 
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The same fact finding team from United Nations and the OPCW explicitly blamed the Syrian military of Bashar al-Assad for dropping chemical weapons.

They should stay in Yangon and ask the Muslims (about 20% of population) why are you still around?

So what is the problem ? There is video when the chemical attack happened and constant bombing on civilian infrastructure are evidence that Bashar is a cold blooded guy, only fool who believe with Bashar narative.

UN Fact Finding mission Chairman on Rohingya is a respected Indonesian figure, Marzuki Darusman. We believe he is truthful on doing the investigation. By just using your logic you should have understand the reason of why 1 million Rohingya people want to leave their home and land to crowded refuge camp in another LCD country. There must be some thing horrifying happening in Myanmar.

Marzuki Darusman
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@Song Hong Are we going to believe you or UN fact finding team that comprise of intelligent and respected persons ????

Genocide threat for Myanmar’s Rohingya greater than ever, investigators warn Human Rights Council

16 September 2019

Human Rights
Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Rohingya who remain in Myanmar may face a greater threat of genocide than ever, amid Government attempts to “erase their identity and remove them from the country”, UN-appointed independent investigators said on Monday.

In a report detailing alleged violations in Myanmar over the last year, the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission, insists that many of the conditions that led to “killings, rapes and gang rapes, torture, forced displacement and other grave rights violations” by the country’s military, that prompted some 700,000 Rohingya to flee to neighbouring Bangladesh in 2017, are still present.


Citing the lack of accountability for the perpetrators of these alleged crimes, as well as the failure by Myanmar “to investigate genocide and to enact effective legislation criminalizing and punishing genocide”, the UN-appointed independent panel concludes “that the evidence that infers genocidal intent on the part of the State…has strengthened, that there is a serious risk that genocidal actions may occur or recur”.

Echoing those findings, Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Myanmar, Yanghee Lee told the Human Rights Council earlier on Monday that Myanmar had “done nothing to dismantle the system of violence and persecution” against the Rohingya who live in the “same dire circumstances that they did, prior to the events of August 2017”.

Citing satellite imagery of destroyed Rohingya villages, Ms. Lee questioned Myanmar’s assertion that it rebuilt areas affected by the violence, given that there were “six military bases that have been built on the site of destroyed Rohingya villages”.

Of nearly 400 Rohingya villages apparently destroyed, “there has been no attempt to reconstruct 320 of them”, the Special Rapporteur noted, and four in 10 villages had been “completely razed to the ground”.

Some of that demolition occurred in 2018 and some even in 2019 “and all of this is completely antithetical to the claim that Myanmar is ready to receive the refugees (back from Bangladesh)”, Ms. Lee insisted.

600,000 Rohingya ‘remain the target’ of Myanmar authorities
According to the International Fact-Finding Mission’s near 200-page report, the abuses it found were not on the same scale as the “clearance operations” conducted against Rohingya communities in the summer of 2017.

Nonetheless, the 600,000 mainly-Muslim Rohingya still in Myanmar “remain the target” of Government efforts to remove them from the country, the expert panel insisted.

The threats the Rohingya minority face include a “continuation of hate speech” and discrimination that affects their ability to work, attend school, seek medical care “or even pray and congregate”, the report notes.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/09/1046442
@Song Hong Are we going to believe you or UN fact finding team that comprise of intelligent and respected persons ????

Genocide threat for Myanmar’s Rohingya greater than ever, investigators warn Human Rights Council

16 September 2019

Human Rights
Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Rohingya who remain in Myanmar may face a greater threat of genocide than ever, amid Government attempts to “erase their identity and remove them from the country”, UN-appointed independent investigators said on Monday.

In a report detailing alleged violations in Myanmar over the last year, the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission, insists that many of the conditions that led to “killings, rapes and gang rapes, torture, forced displacement and other grave rights violations” by the country’s military, that prompted some 700,000 Rohingya to flee to neighbouring Bangladesh in 2017, are still present.


Citing the lack of accountability for the perpetrators of these alleged crimes, as well as the failure by Myanmar “to investigate genocide and to enact effective legislation criminalizing and punishing genocide”, the UN-appointed independent panel concludes “that the evidence that infers genocidal intent on the part of the State…has strengthened, that there is a serious risk that genocidal actions may occur or recur”.

Echoing those findings, Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Myanmar, Yanghee Lee told the Human Rights Council earlier on Monday that Myanmar had “done nothing to dismantle the system of violence and persecution” against the Rohingya who live in the “same dire circumstances that they did, prior to the events of August 2017”.

Citing satellite imagery of destroyed Rohingya villages, Ms. Lee questioned Myanmar’s assertion that it rebuilt areas affected by the violence, given that there were “six military bases that have been built on the site of destroyed Rohingya villages”.

Of nearly 400 Rohingya villages apparently destroyed, “there has been no attempt to reconstruct 320 of them”, the Special Rapporteur noted, and four in 10 villages had been “completely razed to the ground”.

Some of that demolition occurred in 2018 and some even in 2019 “and all of this is completely antithetical to the claim that Myanmar is ready to receive the refugees (back from Bangladesh)”, Ms. Lee insisted.

600,000 Rohingya ‘remain the target’ of Myanmar authorities
According to the International Fact-Finding Mission’s near 200-page report, the abuses it found were not on the same scale as the “clearance operations” conducted against Rohingya communities in the summer of 2017.

Nonetheless, the 600,000 mainly-Muslim Rohingya still in Myanmar “remain the target” of Government efforts to remove them from the country, the expert panel insisted.

The threats the Rohingya minority face include a “continuation of hate speech” and discrimination that affects their ability to work, attend school, seek medical care “or even pray and congregate”, the report notes.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/09/1046442
@Song Hong made a clear point that it's not about religion, it's about ethical clash and separatists.
No one is denying what happened on Rohingya is bad. That's why dispite China support its ally it also actively meditate that conflicts.
But you guys always want to link everything with religion. Which is absurd don't you agree?
 
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Aleppo, a predominant Sunni city sing in joy in Christmas. Syrian Sunni are unloved all over the Sunni world, as Assad has successfully secularized them. They shown everyone how Sunni can behave in a open minded person -- diametrically opposite to most other Sunni.

Most Syrian Sunni support Assad, not Saudi or Jihadist or ISIS.

This is a bad example that should be extinguished.

https://www.rt.com/news/447324-aleppo-syria-christmas-celebration/

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20%? According to government data muslims were 4% of the total population of Myanmar now it's less than 3% after Rohingya left.


I believe some of them do not have citizenship.
 
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Aleppo, a predominant Sunni city sing in joy in Christmas. Syrian Sunni are unloved all over the Sunni world, as Assad has successfully secularized them. They shown everyone how Sunni can behave in a open minded person -- diametrically opposite to most other Sunni.

Most Syrian Sunni support Assad, not Saudi or Jihadist or ISIS.

This is a bad example that should be extinguished.

https://www.rt.com/news/447324-aleppo-syria-christmas-celebration/

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I believe some of them do not have citizenship.
Only Rohingyas does not have citizenship. 20% muslim population in Myanmar is absurd.
 
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@Song Hong made a clear point that it's not about religion, it's about ethical clash and separatists.
No one is denying what happened on Rohingya is bad. That's why dispite China support its ally it also actively meditate that conflicts.
But you guys always want to link everything with religion. Which is absurd don't you agree?

I dont understand with your logic. Any group that is oppressed should be helped. I also want UN military intervention when genocide happening in Africa where Tutsi is being butchered by Hutu. And it is natural for any one who still have heart and fair judgement to defend Rohingya like @Reashot Xigwin although he/she is not Muslim. And for Muslim like me it is natural to defend another Muslim right that are being violated and harassed.
 
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Aleppo, a predominant Sunni city sing in joy in Christmas. Syrian Sunni are unloved all over the Sunni world, as Assad has successfully secularized them. They shown everyone how Sunni can behave in a open minded person -- diametrically opposite to most other Sunni.

Most Syrian Sunni support Assad, not Saudi or Jihadist or ISIS.

This is a bad example that should be extinguished.

https://www.rt.com/news/447324-aleppo-syria-christmas-celebration/

5c21eee5fc7e93c5068b4587.jpg


5c21ef0fdda4c8bc298b459c.jpg






I believe some of them do not have citizenship.
In Myanmar only Yangon region and Rakhine state has good number of muslim population. In other states of Myanmar there are practically little to no muslims.

There are many Christians in Myanmar.

Also Myanmar's Buddhist population is 88-90% Buddhist.
 
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Only Rohingyas does not have citizenship. 20% muslim population in Myanmar is absurd.

The British say 18% at 1930 Rangoon.

I have read even a higher number estimation. Myanmar has a chaotic demographics figure mainly because the main race, the Barmese is merely close to 50%. (Dont trust the Barmese census of overwhelming majority Barmese)

The Myanmese state census may not be trusted if any.


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I dont understand with your logic. Any group that is oppressed should be helped. I also want UN military intervention when genocide happening in Africa where Tutsi is being butchered by Hutu. And it is natural for any one who still have heart and fair judgement to defend Rohingya like @Reashot Xigwin although he/she is not Muslim. And for Muslim like me it is natural to defend another Muslim right that are being violated and harassed.

Rwanda genocide is instigated by France. The white man will never let the world know.
 
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The British say 18% at 1930 Rangoon.

I have read even a higher number estimation. Myanmar has a chaotic demographics figure mainly because the main race, the Barmese is merely close to 50%.

The Myanmese state census may not be trusted if any.


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Rwanda genocide is instigated by France. The white man will never let the world know.
Keep dreaming. You are a muslim in disguise of a Vietnamese. Myanmar belongs to 88-90% Buddhist. Those 18% muslims were workers who were brought by the British. After independence, they went back home.

Myanmar is Buddhist country since lord Buddha's times.

The British say 18% at 1930 Rangoon.

I have read even a higher number estimation. Myanmar has a chaotic demographics figure mainly because the main race, the Barmese is merely close to 50%. (Dont trust the Barmese census of overwhelming majority Barmese)

The Myanmese state census may not be trusted if any.


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Rwanda genocide is instigated by France. The white man will never let the world know.
Also you don't know anything about Myanmar. You talk bullshit.

Myanmar has 135 ethnic groups. Bamars are close to 50% yes but there are more than 100s of other Buddhist ethnic group.
 
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Keep dreaming. You are a muslim in disguise of a Vietnamese. Myanmar belongs to 88-90% Buddhist. Those 18% muslims were workers who were brought by the British. After independence, they went back home.

Myanmar is Buddhist country since lord Buddha's times.

Myanmar is multi racial where Barmese probably enjoy some majority. No one really knows as Barmese make it top secret.

You never been there.


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Myanmar is multi racial where Barmese probably enjoy some majority. No one really knows as Barmese make it top secret.

You never been there.


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Are you dumb or what? Burmese is a race not a religion. Burmese people are not more than 40% of the total population of Myanmar. Myanmar has more than 135 ethnic groups and out of them most ethnic group follow Buddhism.

Myanmar is a multi ethnic country but sorry this is a Buddhist country by religion.

If you are a Christian or Muslim then I am sorry I can't help you.
 
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