Indonesia may see more sharia-based laws

[KediKesenFare3]

Indonesia is broken. I know that for many outsiders like me the country might even look like it's doing extraordinarily well especially in terms of business. But speak to Indonesians and you'll sense that the Indonesian society is at a turning point.

So, I don't know if the implementation of Sharia laws will change anything about the current situation in Indonesia. It could cause more harm than good to the country.

One thing, however, is clear: the principles of Pancasila are outdated and old fashioned.

Indonesia needs reformation.

 

[Viet]

Indonesia is broken. I know that for many outsiders like me the country might even look like it's doing extraordinarily well especially in terms of business. But speak to Indonesians and you'll sense that the Indonesian society is at a turning point.

So, I don't know if the implementation of Sharia laws will change anything about the current situation in Indonesia. It could cause more harm than good to the country.

One thing, however, is clear: the principles of Pancasila are outdated and old fashioned.

Indonesia needs reformation.

SE Asia doesn’t need any country that is run by Mullahs.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

SE Asia doesn’t need any country that is run by Mullahs.

I'm a liberal nationalist. I prefere a socially conservative but secular and homogenous country. It is obvious that Indonesia needs more pressure to evolve into a homogenous society. In this very specific context, I would support a civilised Islam in Indonesian as being the ONLY religion in Indonesia.

In my Indonesia of Dreams, Chinese and other minorities have no place to live in; neither are Jihadists and Wannabe-whites welcomed.

One nation, one country, one race and one religion - my principles.

 

[nufix]

Indonesia is broken. I know that for many outsiders like me the country might even look like it's doing extraordinarily well especially in terms of business. But speak to Indonesians and you'll sense that the Indonesian society is at a turning point.

So, I don't know if the implementation of Sharia laws will change anything about the current situation in Indonesia. It could cause more harm than good to the country.

One thing, however, is clear: the principles of Pancasila are outdated and old fashioned.

Indonesia needs reformation.

Well if you say that Pancasila is outdated, what would you call Sharia? Ancient?

SE Asia doesn’t need any country that is run by Mullahs.

Neither do the Indonesians.

 

[Viet]

I'm a liberal nationalist. I prefere a socially conservative but secular and homogenous country. It is obvious that Indonesia needs more pressure to evolve into a homogenous society. In this very specific context, I would support a civilised Islam in Indonesian as being the ONLY religion in Indonesia.

In my Indonesia of Dreams, Chinese and other minorities have no place to live in; neither are Jihadists and Wannabe-whites welcomed.

One nation, one country, one race and one religion - my principles.

No offense but you are not a liberal nationalist but a religious nationalist.

You either don’t know what liberalism means or just want to insult the intelligence of other readers.

 

[Tshering22]

Stop acting like you know everything about our country,those people who want sharia law implemented are nothing than arab wannabe indonesian who certainly don't respect indonesian culture,do you know that some those of people are banning wayang,tearing down statue ,calling some traditional dance haram


No one forced you sister to wear bikini and suck cock
indonesian women are different they want to be independent and have basic right like man do,they can choose whatever they as long they don't breaking the law

But since pakistan are really conservative country,i can understand that the word "women right" are so strange for you

Tell me something, Why is Banda Aceh is so different from the rest of the country? I mean even the other parts of Indonesia has all sorts of people; some are open, some are conservative, but in general, they are all tolerant and very relaxed people.

Aceh somehow seems to be running on Saudi style of governance as a separate system. Can you explain more about this? Thanks.

OP is Indonesian. He is also Muslim, like 200 million other Indonesians. Indonesian people are themselves demanding Islam, read the OP, it says it clearly.

Democracy in action.

You are confusing Acehnese local demands with that of rest of Indonesia.

FYI Banda Aceh is a province in Indonesia; not the whole country.

The country is governed by the Panchasheela constitution.

 

[nufix]

Tell me something, Why is Banda Aceh is so different from the rest of the country? I mean even the other parts of Indonesia has all sorts of people; some are open, some are conservative, but in general, they are all tolerant and very relaxed people.

Aceh somehow seems to be running on Saudi style of governance as a separate system. Can you explain more about this? Thanks.



You are confusing Acehnese local demands with that of rest of Indonesia.

FYI Banda Aceh is a province in Indonesia; not the whole country.

The country is governed by the Panchasheela constitution.

Aceh is proud being one of the first kingdom to actually converted to Islam so the Acehneese dubbed themselvels “the veil of makka” for Indonesia. However, since then, the Acehneese wants to have their own Sharia based law which puts the province in an open rebellion for 30+ years. Only after Tsunami 2004 and government relaxed control of Aceh would Acehneese put down their arms.

However, the implementation of Sharia has not brought anything for Aceh really other than free public canning.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

No offense but you are not a liberal nationalist but a religious nationalist.

You either don’t know what liberalism means or just want to insult the intelligence of other readers.

You do realise that I'm against any kind of Sharia? I support a secular state with the religion under total state control. Just like Atatürk did. However, I won't accept Christian missionaries disturbing our societal cohesion either. A Turk can be homosexual for all I care. I'm liberal in the way that I protect the privacy of my fellow citizens - and I support women's rights.
But we need religion as supportive tool in our identity construction to prevent our society from going crazy like many Western nations.

 

[El Sidd]

No wonder.

These are seriously Muslim People

But we need religion as supportive tool in our identity construction to prevent our society from going crazy like many Western nations.

Atatürk

secular state

Nothing adds up in your Post.

Nothing.

Null

 

[Tshering22]

However, the implementation of Sharia has not brought anything for Aceh really other than free public canning.

Which pretty much sums up the practicality of such a legal system.

Now you are saying that many Acehnese people are migrating to other provinces of Indonesia for freer life; which essentially means that they want don't want the system enforced on their home state.

 

[hussain0216]

SE Asia doesn’t need any country that is run by Mullahs.

Whats it got to do with you???

Its there country and they can run it how they like

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Sure. I'll keep that in mind when I browse some threads about China. What is this called by the way, the Pakistani Selective Syndrome?

It’s called putting Pakistan first. Concentrating on our economy.
Trying not to be the world police or judge.

When we become something, then we can have a say.

Keep your head down and work hard. It’s the model set by China and Turkey.

Whats it got to do with you???

Its there country and they can run it how they like

Indians are scared of the Islamicization of Indonesia and Malaysia as it disrupts their geo-political objectives.

Being surrounded by Muslims on all sides makes them paranoid.

One thing, however, is clear: the principles of Pancasila are outdated and old fashioned.

Indonesia needs reformation.

100% agreed.

 

[Zsari]

This is the biggest problem with Islam that it is not just enough for the Muslim population to willingly abide by its religious practice, but rather seek to implement its religious law onto the entire population.

 

[Super Falcon]

Very good a complete law with no ifs and buts simple law no matter how big you are if you commited crime you will get punished

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This is the biggest problem with Islam that it is not just enough for the Muslim population to willingly abide by its religious practice, but rather seek to implement its religious law onto the entire population.

Another self-made scholar of Islam here.