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Indonesia had another high-seas encounter with China—but this time it brought a bigger boat

The Chinese should try to create good relations with Indonesia.
Indonesia has the huge potential to become a regional power(if it is not already one) in both the economic and military sense. Your EEZ alone is huge where you have the rights to a vast amount of resources. If those resources are used
properly you can propel yourself forward.

So you intercepted the Americans with their own weapons. Congrats to Indonesia

Thanks for the complement bro....

Actually due to US embargo, they are the only F 16 that we have, others were grounded, and dont forget those F 16 only have sidewinders on their wings........:D

Yup, it similar like us in the old time where we fight with every ones, even British, Australia, and New Zealand came to rescue Malaysia and Singapore during 1960's. We had war with them for about 5 years due to our leader megalomania during that period.

After changing leadership, we do understand that it was a counter productive move thats why Soeharto invited Lee Kuan Yeu and Mahathir to create ASEAN. I think it is useless to have too large areas in the situation where our economy and our international relation position gets pressured and difficult to grow.

We also give up East Timor in order to have better relation with Western countries and of course it is not fair to hold East Timor since we actually invaded that nation in 1970's. So we do follow common sense after ward.

I hope China leadership understand this, they are always hawkish in any government, the more wise leaders must do clever policy.
 
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great move by Indonesia!


Now we have better reason to do even more and faster to control Whole SCS !!!


Keep doing that, let's see what will happen laterly !!!


When China was weak and poor, we are angry about these kind of things, but today is another story !!!

:welcome::welcome::welcome::smitten::smitten::smitten:
 
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great move by Indonesia!


Now we have better reason to do even more and faster to control Whole SCS !!!


Keep doing that, let's see what will happen laterly !!!


When China was weak and poor, we are angry about these kind of things, but today is another story !!!

:welcome::welcome::welcome::smitten::smitten::smitten:
we dont wanna make enemies with another country...
but if u want to claim our natunas EEZ, please come and try.
 
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Wish China want to sell their own made Destroyer to us, to catch their illegal fishing fleets
If you can pay acceptable price, why not? but that's simplified, tell you in advance.

Around your sea, of course you can, but, also tell you in advance, don't do too much, they are normal fish boat, we tolerate it now, not mean, we don't remember it or forget it, there are one word: you will pay for what you have done. we don't just make weapon that can sell you, also make weapon that can destroy you some day.

What's wrong with China? You guys are making enemies with everyone. I agree that China is strong but
you do need some friends in the international arena.
A ignorant brainwashed by Western, idiot is everywhere.

we dont wanna make enemies with another country...
but if u want to claim our natunas EEZ, please come and try.
Same to us, we don't want to make enemy with other, but if you draw you EEZ on our claimed zone, and show off your muscle on our people, don't stop, hehe, you think what we will do? you about 200 million indonesian like that, so do 1400 million Chinese, we will play with you.
 
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we dont wanna make enemies with another country...
but if u want to claim our natunas EEZ, please come and try.

I give an explanation from global times from a forumer reply.

Strangely enough that in Indonesia, it was reported only by American mouth-piece media Merdeka , which was virtually the translation of The Diplomat article by that Panda guy. The only thing really Indonesian reporting was the interview of Susi Pudjiastuti, Indonesian Fishery Minister, who is a businesswoman with American husbands and her American-centric attitude,
The Indonesian Foreign Minister concern was to address the ship to ship incident, which happened at the very northern tip of Natuna archipelago where the coordinate was best described as ‘unclear’ if it was still within Natuna.
She also reminded the Chinese side to tone down the rethoric and aggressiveness as Indonesia is not interested to get involved in SCS conflict as encouraged by the American. In response, Chinese government representative in Jakarta, Sun Weide suggested cooperations and dialogs to determine border area and mapping to avoid repeating incident.
Even Indonesian Vice President, Jusuf Kalla said he is not interested for ‘irresponsible’ commenting and urging the relevant departments to settle the matters. Of course, with Western press is ever-eager to twist the facts, it will be a tricky task. After all, they had done more reportings than us as if they were there. - commentor Simon, from Indonesia, on another forum.
 
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wish other country sent more and more fishermen including warship to our waters...
im just can't wait our military budget increase to more than 0.8% GDP :bunny:
 
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I give an explanation from global times from a forumer reply.

Strangely enough that in Indonesia, it was reported only by American mouth-piece media Merdeka , which was virtually the translation of The Diplomat article by that Panda guy.

Don't mind the reporting. We don't easily bite sensational news. The fact is Indonesia has been consistent in seizing and destroying illegal fishing boats that intruding and fishing illegally inside Indonesian waters.

We don't wanna play double standard game when enforcing our sovereignty. We have blown up more than 170 illegal fishing boats from our surrounding neighbors in the last 1.5 year. So don't expect us to act differently to China on this matter.

Let's put this issue on proper perspective, and treat this incident as it is... illegal fishing violation.. Nothing more, nothing less..
 
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Sorry, he is just another Pakistanis duped by the anti-China element.
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The incident do not occur in Natuna islands. Its simply a spin over and over nationalistic by the Indonesia. Indonesia is making a big mistake by sending warship. As if PLAN has no warship and our destroyer is far larger and more powerful. There is a reason why coast guard shall do the job. Indonesia coast guard has some bad element who simply try to blackmailed foreign fisherman and acting like pirates. They purposely claimed you are fishing in their water and then forcefully tow your fishing boat into their water to fabricate proof of your illlegal fishing activities. China coast guard simply defend the interest of their fisherman. Do not so easily believe western news regarding any dispute regards to China.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/975141.shtml

If you are truly Pakistanis and friend of China, do not believe such news from Indonesian side or western.

Like how western claim you Pakistanis harbour Osama bin Laben and claim you Pakistan as terrorist nation? Are you happy with that accusation? Its from the same source that paint China as aggressor.

If you can pay acceptable price, why not? but that's simplified, tell you in advance.

Around your sea, of course you can, but, also tell you in advance, don't do too much, they are normal fish boat, we tolerate it now, not mean, we don't remember it or forget it, there are one word: you will pay for what you have done. we don't just make weapon that can sell you, also make weapon that can destroy you some day.


A ignorant brainwashed by Western, idiot is everywhere.


Same to us, we don't want to make enemy with other, but if you draw you EEZ on our claimed zone, and show off your muscle on our people, don't stop, hehe, you think what we will do? you about 200 million indonesian like that, so do 1400 million Chinese, we will play with you.

I am not brainwashed. I support China everywhere. I just want Indonesia and China to solve this problem peacefully and become friends.:cheers:
 
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Same to us, we don't want to make enemy with other, but if you draw you EEZ on our claimed zone, and show off your muscle on our people, don't stop, hehe, you think what we will do? you about 200 million indonesian like that, so do 1400 million Chinese, we will play with you.

ouch.. Im afraid... hahaha lol!!!

even if an alien from another space try to claim our EEZ, we will burn their space ship!!
 
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ouch.. Im afraid... hahaha lol!!!

even if an alien from another space try to claim our EEZ, we will burn their space ship!!
Hehe, very brave, so? not only you have that.

If 1400 million Chinese can't scare you, so, you think you about 200 million indonesian can?

We don't want to make enemy with any other, if you want sit down and negotiate, welcome, if want show your "braveness", sorry, you choose wrong target.
 
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