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JAKARTA – Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto is taking a long look at second-hand Eurofighter Typhoons on offer by the Austrian Air Force, a procurement that would aim to better check Chinese incursions into Indonesian waters in the South China Sea.

Pricing appears to be the main reason for the former army general’s interest in buying the 15 twin-engine Typhoons, which were acquired by Austria in 2002 amid lingering controversy over their cost-effectiveness and allegations of corruption.

But unlike his predecessors, Prabowo has a more strategic view of what equipment Indonesia needs to boost its frontline air power and also add more guided-missile frigates to a navy facing increasing challenges from China on its northern maritime border.

Moved to Sumatra in 2014 to shorten their combat range, air force fighters have recently been involved in some of Indonesia’s biggest naval maneuvers in years in the western Java Sea and waters around the Natuna archipelago.

The Austrian Defense Ministry announced three years ago that it intended to replace the air superiority fighters by 2020, saying the continued use of the Typhoonsover a 30-year life span would cost US$5 billion, much of it spent on maintenance.


The Typhoons would add a third logistical tail to the Indonesian Air Force, which currently has a frontline fleet of 16 Russian-made multi-role Su-27/30 fighters and three squadrons of US-produced Lockheed Martin F-16s, recently used on air patrols over the South China Sea.

The purchase of an additional squadron of advanced Sukhoi jets is now apparently off the table because of feared American sanctions for buying Russian jets and missiles, a punishment imposed on Moscow for allegedly meddling in the 2016 US presidential election.

Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto (C) visits an Indonesian Air Force Base in Natuna, Indonesia on February 5, 2020. Photo: Muhammad Fahmi Dolli/Anadolu Agency via AFP
Prabowo has already approached Austrian Defense Minister Klaudia Tanner over the proposed procurement. If the sale goes ahead, it is expected the Typhoons would be upgraded to Tranche 3A standards, giving them both air defense and ground attack roles.

Indonesia would be the first Asian country to operate the Typhoon. More than 500 of the aircraft are currently in service with nine air forces in Europe and the Middle East. The unit price of a new jet is $100 million.

Some analysts see it as a stop-gap acquisition before Indonesia takes planned delivery of the KFX/IFX fighter, which has been under joint development by Korean Aerospace Industries and aircraft manufacturer PT Dirgantara Indonesia since 2010.

Defense experts have been critical of Indonesia’s most recent $750 million purchase of eight sophisticated Apache AH-64 attack helicopters. It has also come under fire for buying 100 German Leopard tanks, which are too heavy for most roads and bridges.

Both acquisitions seemed more designed to keep pace with the inventories of neighboring Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand than to improve the external defense capabilities of a vast archipelago covering more than 1.9 million square kilometers.

Although the coronavirus pandemic has put a temporary crimp on defense spending, China’s increasingly aggressive moves in the South China Sea have compelled Indonesia to pay more attention to protecting its maritime frontier.

Source: Twitter
In a diplomatic note to the United Nations last May, Indonesia said it had no intention of accepting China’s offer of bilateral talks to settle purported overlapping claims of “maritime rights and interests” that have no basis in international law.

Over the past week, Indonesia’s Western Fleet has been conducting the biggest naval fleet exercises in memory in waters around the Natuna Islands, scene of an increasing number of incidents with Chinese Coast Guard vessels in recent years.

The assertion of maritime sovereignty involved 29 warships,19 aircraft and marine landing craft comes a fortnight after the US turned on a massive demonstration of naval power by dispatching two carrier battle groups through the South China Sea.

In a further hardening of American resolve, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the US stood with its Southeast Asia allies “in protecting their sovereign rights to offshore resources,” a statement that appeared to include the Natuna Islands.

Widely tipped to make a second bid for the Indonesian presidency in 2024, Prabowo is blacklisted from the US because of alleged human rights while serving with the Indonesian special forces.

But he has a cordial relationship with US Defense Secretary Mark Esper, whom he met at a regional security conference in Bangkok last year. Esper said recently he planned to visit Jakarta, a move that could trigger a reciprocal visit from his Indonesian counterpart.


https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/indonesia-eyes-eurofighters-to-check-chinas-threat/
 
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JAKARTA – Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto is taking a long look at second-hand Eurofighter Typhoons on offer by the Austrian Air Force, a procurement that would aim to better check Chinese incursions into Indonesian waters in the South China Sea.

Pricing appears to be the main reason for the former army general’s interest in buying the 15 twin-engine Typhoons, which were acquired by Austria in 2002 amid lingering controversy over their cost-effectiveness and allegations of corruption.

But unlike his predecessors, Prabowo has a more strategic view of what equipment Indonesia needs to boost its frontline air power and also add more guided-missile frigates to a navy facing increasing challenges from China on its northern maritime border.

Moved to Sumatra in 2014 to shorten their combat range, air force fighters have recently been involved in some of Indonesia’s biggest naval maneuvers in years in the western Java Sea and waters around the Natuna archipelago.

The Austrian Defense Ministry announced three years ago that it intended to replace the air superiority fighters by 2020, saying the continued use of the Typhoonsover a 30-year life span would cost US$5 billion, much of it spent on maintenance.


The Typhoons would add a third logistical tail to the Indonesian Air Force, which currently has a frontline fleet of 16 Russian-made multi-role Su-27/30 fighters and three squadrons of US-produced Lockheed Martin F-16s, recently used on air patrols over the South China Sea.

The purchase of an additional squadron of advanced Sukhoi jets is now apparently off the table because of feared American sanctions for buying Russian jets and missiles, a punishment imposed on Moscow for allegedly meddling in the 2016 US presidential election.

Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto (C) visits an Indonesian Air Force Base in Natuna, Indonesia on February 5, 2020. Photo: Muhammad Fahmi Dolli/Anadolu Agency via AFP
Prabowo has already approached Austrian Defense Minister Klaudia Tanner over the proposed procurement. If the sale goes ahead, it is expected the Typhoons would be upgraded to Tranche 3A standards, giving them both air defense and ground attack roles.

Indonesia would be the first Asian country to operate the Typhoon. More than 500 of the aircraft are currently in service with nine air forces in Europe and the Middle East. The unit price of a new jet is $100 million.

Some analysts see it as a stop-gap acquisition before Indonesia takes planned delivery of the KFX/IFX fighter, which has been under joint development by Korean Aerospace Industries and aircraft manufacturer PT Dirgantara Indonesia since 2010.

Defense experts have been critical of Indonesia’s most recent $750 million purchase of eight sophisticated Apache AH-64 attack helicopters. It has also come under fire for buying 100 German Leopard tanks, which are too heavy for most roads and bridges.

Both acquisitions seemed more designed to keep pace with the inventories of neighboring Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand than to improve the external defense capabilities of a vast archipelago covering more than 1.9 million square kilometers.

Although the coronavirus pandemic has put a temporary crimp on defense spending, China’s increasingly aggressive moves in the South China Sea have compelled Indonesia to pay more attention to protecting its maritime frontier.

Source: Twitter
In a diplomatic note to the United Nations last May, Indonesia said it had no intention of accepting China’s offer of bilateral talks to settle purported overlapping claims of “maritime rights and interests” that have no basis in international law.

Over the past week, Indonesia’s Western Fleet has been conducting the biggest naval fleet exercises in memory in waters around the Natuna Islands, scene of an increasing number of incidents with Chinese Coast Guard vessels in recent years.

The assertion of maritime sovereignty involved 29 warships,19 aircraft and marine landing craft comes a fortnight after the US turned on a massive demonstration of naval power by dispatching two carrier battle groups through the South China Sea.

In a further hardening of American resolve, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the US stood with its Southeast Asia allies “in protecting their sovereign rights to offshore resources,” a statement that appeared to include the Natuna Islands.

Widely tipped to make a second bid for the Indonesian presidency in 2024, Prabowo is blacklisted from the US because of alleged human rights while serving with the Indonesian special forces.

But he has a cordial relationship with US Defense Secretary Mark Esper, whom he met at a regional security conference in Bangkok last year. Esper said recently he planned to visit Jakarta, a move that could trigger a reciprocal visit from his Indonesian counterpart.


https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/indonesia-eyes-eurofighters-to-check-chinas-threat/

Typhoon acquisition has come under a lot of opposition lately, especially when there are more viable options for a stop gap such as surplus F-16.
 
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Rafale is a better option.

Yes, Rafale would be great. But since these are intended for stop gap only until we can get our hands on the KFX, Rafale would be too costly. Unless the new planes are intended to replace KFX for future fighters, buying upgraded surplus of US F 16 is much more logical.
 
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Don't end up like India buying from every country in the world.

Base your fighters on one or two shared jet engines.
This will reduce your long term maintenance. Get also from an reliable country that is your strategic partner.
 
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It's time for regime change in Jakharta. PLA marines can attack Jakharta by sea after softening the coastal defenses with a bombing campaign. Type 099 tanks can roll right into the presidential palace and depose their joker of the leader.
 
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It's time for regime change in Jakharta. PLA marines can attack Jakharta by sea after softening the coastal defenses with a bombing campaign. Type 099 tanks can roll right into the presidential palace and depose their joker of the leader.

Regime always changes in "Jakarta" every 5 to 10 years anyway. Indonesia elects leader by voting and one person can only be elected twice (each term is 5 years). So dont worry, save your "TyPe 099 T4nKs r0LL r1gHt iNt0 tH3 pR3siDenTi4L PaL4c3" speech for somebody else.
 
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Why is Indonesia worried about China? I thought India was the only hegemon in the region?

The news headline is sensationalized for sure. But with recent incidents involving China and Indonesia, the China worry is not too far fetched.
 
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Very potent fighter jet
The German Air Force - die deutsche Luftwaffe - has the Typhoon in inventory as fast interceptor.
Indonesia Air Force can do the same to intercept chinese bombers.


 
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Eurofighters can't datalink with Indonesia's Su-30 MKKs.

Indonesian Air Force also has no AWACs.

Indonesian Air Force would fare little better than the Iraqi Air Force in the face of a highly networked opponent with substantial support and recon assets.
 
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