Indonesia Defence Forum

[Nike]

I'm thinking maybe transfer the 105s to Airborne battalions.

M101 and their derivatives like M202 and Kh178 actually quite bulky and rather heavy compared to modern 105 mm lightweight gun found in market (like Nexter LG and Turkish made ones).... so i would drop the idea because for Airborne units mobility is everything

 

[Carlosa]

India's Own String Of Pearls - After Singapore & Vietnam, India To Train Indonesian Forces
http://www.indiatimes.com/news/indi...-india-to-train-indonesian-forces-271179.html

After Vietnam, Singapore and other countries in Southeast Asia, India is now also steadily stepping up military ties with Indonesia with an eye firmly on China. India and Indonesia have now decided to hold their first-ever joint air combat exercise as well as deepen maritime security cooperation.

Defence sources say India also offered to train sailors from Indonesia in the complex art of submarine operations during the recent visit of defence secretary G Mohan Kumar to the country.

Vietnamese sailors, incidentally, are already being trained in "comprehensive underwater combat operations'' in the Indian Navy's submarine school INS Satavahana in Visakhapatnam. A similar programme to train the Vietnamese fighter pilots on Indian Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets is set to begin this year, as was earlier reported by TOI.

Much like the expansion of its military training, technology-sharing, joint exercises, visits and exchange of experts with Vietnam, India is now poised to crank up defence ties with Indonesia. Apart from exploring opportunities for collaboration in the defence production sector, the two countries will also upgrade their joint Army exercise called Garuda Shakti, the fourth edition of which was held at Magelang in Indonesia March 2016.

The two navies have also been conducting coordinated patrols on their respective sides of the international maritime boundary line (IMBL) twice a year since 2002, with the aim to keep this vital part of the Indian Ocean region safe and secure for commercial shipping and international trade.

As for Singapore, India has also renewed its air force training agreement with the city state for another five years. With land and airspace being a scarce commodity in Singapore, it has been utilising Indian military facilities to train its own small but high-tech armed forces under special agreements signed in 2007 and 2008.

India, for instance, provides facilities to Singapore for exercises of mechanised forces at Babina and artillery at Deolali ranges as well as for fighters at the Kalaikunda airbase in West Bengal. The two countries also regularly hold the Simbex naval wargames, which have graduated from being purely anti-submarine warfare exercises to complex ones involving multiple facets of operations at sea.

Originally published in Times of India

 

[GraveDigger388]

M101 and their derivatives like M202 and Kh178 actually quite bulky and rather heavy compared to modern 105 mm lightweight gun found in market (like Nexter LG and Turkish made ones).... so i would drop the idea because for Airborne units mobility is everything

Oooor... Mount the cannon on the bed of a truck, just like Samsung did..

 

[Nike]

Oooor... Mount the cannon on the bed of a truck, just like Samsung did..

hmmm cheap solution to have your own sph, Vietnam had made extensive research about that too if i recall

 

[Svantana]

Old Photos.

 

[striver44]

India to impart submarine training to Indonesia

Kapal selam TNI AL ★

India has agreed to impart submarine training to Indonesia as part of a bilateral effort to diversify defence cooperation.

During Defence Secretary Mohan Kumar’s South East Asia visit, the two countries also agreed to cooperate in defence manufacturing and expand military to military cooperation. Mr. Kumar visited Indonesia on January 17-18 and Singapore on January 19.

India already trains Vietnamese sailors in operating Kilo class submarines and its pilots on Su-30 fighter aircraft, both Russian built platforms India operates in large numbers. This move also fits into India’s larger engagement with the region as part of its ‘Act East’ policy.

“On military to military ties, the present Army exercise has been expanded to a company level. The two sides have agreed to start Air Force exercises and also expand maritime cooperation, which includes Navy training in submarines and so on,” defence sources said on Wednesday.

Sources observed that Indonesian defence industry had strengths in some areas and, like in India, is largely dominated by Public Sector Undertakings. “We can do some components and sub-assemblies for them. They are also interested in some technologies,” sources said. Discussions were under way.

Indonesian President Joko Widodo was in India in December last year and both sides had agreed to “conclude a substantive bilateral Defence Cooperation Agreement” and “explore collaboration between defence industries for joint product”ion of equipment with technology transfer.”

 

[Svantana]

About AW 101
8 unit approved?

 

[striver44]

ASTROS II MK6 credit to PenKostrad

 

[Marhaenisme]

About AW 101
8 unit approved?

Ya its true 8 units already inked by MoD for next batch 5 units will follow and just with 13 units we get full tot from AgustaWestland to assembly AW101.

 

[Svantana]

Ya its true 8 units already inked by MoD for next batch 5 units will follow and just with 13 units we get full tot from AgustaWestland to assembly AW101.

it's a pity wasting this good stuff

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Indonesia mulls Turkish, South Korean, Russian options for marines APC requirement

What happened to BTR-4M?

About AW 101, 8 unit approved?

While KASAU recently denied that "fact", i found Mrs.Connie explanation quite convincing. And in helicopter production, AW have better TOT scheme to offered. They (or we?) just need to be more transparent in the deal.

I wonder if this and Pandur II are actually all just sweeteners for a bigger deal, there's one more product from Czech that we've been inquiring for some time now.

Just for try out? Like how Marines bought handful of BTR-4M, then planning to get the real deal from Russia, Korea and Turkey

We already have 5 LPD, and will add 3 more units. Hope they will be significantly bigger, faster and better armed.

HEADSHOT trailer for Japanese audience

 

[Bennedict]

Indonesia mulls Turkish, South Korean, Russian options for marines APC requirement
Key Points

• Indonesia is currently considering options in the acquisition of 50 APCs for its Marines Corps
• Contract to include an in-country licensed production component for latter units

The Indonesian Ministry of Defence is currently evaluating proposals from Russia, Turkey, and South Korea in a programme to acquire 50 armoured personnel carriers (APCs) for the Indonesian Marines (Korps Marinir: KORMAR).

Jane's understands from sources close to the procurement process that options being considered are namely the BTR-80 from Russia's Military-Industrial Company, the ACV-19 from Turkey's FNSS, and the Next Infantry Fighting Vehicle (NIFV) K21 from South Korea's Doosan. A sum of USD95 million has been allocated for the programme, and will be provided for under the defence ministry's budget for 2017.
http://www.janes.com/article/67630/...n-russian-options-for-marines-apc-requirement

K21 would be too expensive for Marine corps,
BTR 80, well with 95 million, these are surely bang for the bucks.
ACV-19 will be a better option IMO, M113-based vehicle (commonality with Army M113), and its armament can be adjusted as what the user likes, such as using BMP-3 turret.

 

[Nike]

Kunjungan Kerja di Galangan Kapal PT DRU



Guna melihat kesiapan unsur Kolinlamil yang sedang dilakukan pemeliharaan, Kepala Staf Kolinlamil Laksamana Pertama TNI R. Edi Surjanto, S.E., M.M. di dampingi berberapa Asisten Pangkolinlamil dan Kepala Dinas serta Komandan Satlinlamil Surabaya, melaksanakan kunjungan kerja di galangan kapal PT Daya Radar Utama (DRU) Lampung, yang beralamat di Jl Alamsyah Ratu Prawiranegara KM 12 Srengsem, Panjang, Bandar Lampung, Kamis (9/2).

Kunjungan kerja ini bertujuan untuk melihat hasil pengerjaan perbaikan terhadap KRI Banjarmasin 592 semasih berada di atas dok galangan.

Selain itu juga dapat melihat secara langsung kemampuan dari PT DRU dalam membangun kapal dengan dukungan kesiapan peralatan perusahaan yang di miliki.

Dari peninjauan ini kedepan tidak tertutup kemungkinan Kolinlamil dalam memenuhi kebutuhan unsur/KRI yang dibutuhkan dalam tipe/jenis tertentu dapat menyarankan untuk dibangun di galangan kapal ini apabila memenuhi persyaratan.

Hal ini seiring dengan kebijakan pemerintah dalam mendukung pemberdayaan dan pemanfaatan industri dalam negeri untuk bangga menggunakan barang-barang hasil produksi dalam negeri yang tidak kalah bersaing kualitas dengan produksi galangan kapal di luar negeri.

Sebelumnya TNI Angkatan Laut telah mengoperasikan sebuah kapal produksi PT DRU jenis Angkut Tank (AT) yaitu KRI Teluk Bintuni 520 yang saat ini beroperasi di bawah pembinaan Satuan Lintas Laut Militer Surabaya. KRI Teluk Bintuni 520 dibangun khusus untuk mendukung pengangkutan Tank Leopard kendaraan tempur milik satuan TNI AD yang memiliki bobot mencapai 62 ton.

Pada saat kunjungan kerja tersebut, Kaskolinlamil juga memberikan pengarahan kepada seluruh ABK di geladak hanggar heli KRI Banjarmasin 592.

★ Kolinlamil

 

[papacita]

What happened to BTR-4M?

Seems like marines weren't satisfied with them.

K21 would be too expensive for Marine corps,
BTR 80, well with 95 million, these are surely bang for the bucks.
ACV-19 will be a better option IMO, M113-based vehicle (commonality with Army M113), and its armament can be adjusted as what the user likes, such as using BMP-3 turret.

BTR-80 side exit door is a big down hence they use them for UN missions only, adding more of them is unlikely. Does ACV-19 have good amphibious capability? Safest bet is to add more BMP-3F or BT-3F instead of BTR-80 as they'd be much ideal option from Russia

Submarine building facility update
credit: IMF

 

[Bennedict]

BTR-80 side exit door is a big down hence they use them for UN missions only, adding more of them is unlikely. Does ACV-19 have good amphibious capability? Safest bet is to add more BMP-3F or BT-3F instead of BTR-80 as they'd be much ideal option from Russia

The reason why the Russians submit their BTR-80 instead of BT-3F/BMP-3, simply because they're recultant about technology-transfer thingy, they're always do. And it is not possible to license-produce BT-3F/BMP-3, because it's a fairly new product (90's tech), they wanted to make profit from it as much as possible before selling its technology to other nations (unless we had a budget as big as India).
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ACV-19 has a fairly good amphibious capability.

65 km/h mximum road speed - 6.3 km/h on water

http://www.armyrecognition.com/turk...pecifications_description_pictures_video.html