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>>> Take this 'news' with a grain of salt, but still..... quite interesting :coffee:


Ini Penyebab Pembelian Sukhoi SU-35 Tertunda Berkali-kali

1. Masih ingat di bulan Mei kemarin santer berita bahwa kita akan beli pesawat Sukhoi Su-35 dari Rusia?

2. Lalu mendadak khabar pembelian Sukhoi itu jadi khabar kabur yg tidak jelas kelanjutannya. Padahal sudah sampai pada tahap akhir.

3. Beginilah cerita dibalik ‘tertundanya’ pembelian pesawat Sukhoi Su-35 tersebut.

4. Pada awalnya kita akan membeli pesawat Sukhoi Su-35 senilai 1,14 Milyar USD dan mendapatkan 8 buah pesawat

5. 8 buah Sukhoi sudah nyaris terbeli, namun kemudian masalah muncul. Repotnya masalah justru datang dari presiden sendiri.

6. Sebab presiden JOKOWI mulai mencium ada yg kurang tepat dari sistem pembelian alutsista kita selama ini

7. Perlu diingat bahwa dari jaman dulu hingga sekarang pembelian alutsista kita kebanyakan melalui calo alias perantara

8. Sehingga terjadi kasus geger pembelian Sukhoi di era Megawati dan juga ribut2 soal markup pembelian Sukhoi tahun 2012 di era SBY

9. Semua itu calonya sama yaitu PT Trimarga Rekatama yg dimiliki oleh Eng Djin Tjong alias Sujito Ng.

10. Sebab Trimarga Rekatama pegang LOA dan POA dari Rosoboronexport. Apa itu rosoboronexport silakan pelajari disini

11. Catatan: LOA: Letter of Agreement POA: Power of Authority LOA POA Trimarga berakhir 12 September 2016

12. Perlu kita ingat bahwa presiden kita JOKOWI ini dulunya adalah seorang pengusaha eksportir meubel. Jadi dia tahu seluk beluk usaha.

13. Hingga awal bulan mei menjelang KTT ASEAN-Rusia kemenlu masih memberitakan tentang pembelian pesawat Sukhoi itu

14. Namun setelah pertemuan Jokowi-Putin menlu segera melakukan klarifikasi tentang khabar pembelian Sukhoi

15. Jadi apa yg sesungguhnya terjadi dalam pertemuan Jokowi dan Putin tersebut. Akan kami ungkap

16. Di Rusia, sehabis pembukaan KTT ASEAN-Russia Presiden Jokowi minta waktu Presiden Russia, Menhan Russia, Rosoboronexport dan Rostec

17. Tujuan pertemuan tsb adalah membahas masalah pembelian pesawat Sukhoi Su-35. Dalam pertemuan tsb ada juga dubes Indonesia dan dubes Russia.

18. The point JOKOWI langsung bertanya, “boleh tidak pembelian Sukhoi dilakukan secara G to G atau G to manufacture, tidak lewat rekanan?”

19. Dubes Indonesia dan dubes Russia langsung menjelaskan berbuih2 bahwa rosoboronexport sudah menjalin kerjasama dgn partner di Indonesia

20. Tapi JOKOWI memotong bahwasanya waktu beli Sukhoi thn 2012 disinyalir harganya di markup. Demikian juga pada barter pd tahun 2003

21. Yg terjadi kedua dubes saling membela dgn macam2 argumen. Akhirnya presiden JOKOWI minta agar pertemuan tidak melibatkan dubes kedua Negara

22. Selanjutnya presiden jokowi menanyakan lebih jauh tentang siapa partner lokal yg ditunjuk oleh mereka selama ini

23. Ketika disinggung nama PT Trimarga Rekatama JOKOWI pun menjelaskan tentang laporan markup pembelian sukhoi yg lalu2 dari LSM2 di LN

24. Beliau juga sempat menyinggung khabar kedekatan pemilik PT Trimarga Rekatama dengan presiden lama

25. Memang sih, khabar kedekatan SBY dengan pemilik Trimarga Rekatama ini sempat diulas beberapa media dlm negeri

26. Selanjutnya presiden JOKOWI kembali menegaskan, apakah kita tetap lanjut beli Sukhoi dgn G to G atau G to manufacture atau tidak?

27. Dan apakah rekanan bisa dihilangkan? Jika bisa tentu harga Sukhoi yg kita beli harus sama dgn pihak2 lain yg juga beli dari Russia.

28. Ini artinya dengan jumlah uang pembelian yg sama kita bukan dapat 8 Sukhoi seperti yg diberitakan di awal, melainkan antara 14-15 Sukhoi!

29. Dan presiden jokowi juga sempat menggertak, jika kita harus membeli Sukhoi dgn harga kemahalan begitu mk lebih baik ambil F16 Viper dr USA

30. Presiden Putin menjawab cepat dan singkat: Bisa.

31. Namun agar tidak menyalahi perjanjian maka pembelian yg sesuai kehendak jokowi itu harus menunggu kerjasama Trimarga dan Rosoboron berakhir

32. Inilah mengapa kemudian ada klarifikasi tentang pembelian Sukhoi dari Menlu Retno

37. Kasus Sukhoi itu hanya salah satu kasus saja. Sebab masih banyak kasus2 lain dalam pembelian alutsista kita


- JakartaGreater -

Intersesting.

If it's true, then it's a clever move that the govt decided to wait until WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS.

PS: I apologize for removing the links. The goddamn system wouldn't let me, yet.
 
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how about thypoon?
Retrofit price to expensive better buy t-72b for light tank, AMX armor too thin
 
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what the advantages of using MEXAS/AMAP like our Leopard compared to ERA like Russian MBT ?

Retrofit price to expensive better buy t-72b for light tank, AMX armor too thin
why TNI still want to retrofit this AMX?
 
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what the advantages of using MEXAS/AMAP like our Leopard with ERA like Russian MBT ?
Amap/mexas work different way from Russian era, the russian use explosive to stop penetrating rod/ molten jet
And the amap use super though material nano ceramic to stop penetrating rod and spaced armor to stop molten jet
 
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what the advantages of using MEXAS/AMAP like our Leopard compared to ERA like Russian MBT ?


why TNI still want to retrofit this AMX?
1. Many population of AMX in army inventory.
2. Man workhours + "fresh blood" for Pindad.
Then company cycle become busy and growing. the government strategy by that time. noy bad at all

Dunno why we are still insist on russian fighter, especially with the way how russian doing business and the smell of corruption on our side in this su35 purchase, i My self prefer F-16 block 70 than super flanker

SU-35 still needed...deterrent.
Gripen is another need which can be put precisely for air defense command (kohanudnas) beside the tot will be very help in pursuit of the aircraft technology. 2 in 1
 
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>>> Sumber aslinya ini ternyata...



If we can get 15 units SU-35 rather just 8 units with the same amount of cash by cleaning up the procurement process, i think SU-35 is still worthed. And if we take the f16 route, i think it's better that we just take the F16-ID that will give double quantity of the units.


The admin it self looks quite reasonable, they just reposting what have been reported by mainstream/official media most of the time. Off course, there're many deluded "contributor" there. But that's not our business.
i think grippen gives us nice offer.. or Rafale maybe
 
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Does anyone notice what's the holdup with phillippines NC-212?

The plane itself are already completed, what's the reason it hasn't been given to the PAF?
The discussion about that you could find it here: philippines-military-thread-economy-news-and-updates & here indonesian-aerospace-industry ... the PH blacklisted PT DI for any bid until next year.

Well, if we don't buy the Su-35, I myself prefer buying the Gripen NG because the package is the best for our developing industry and the plane itself is very good.

I've seen the older Gripen C/D at ILA Berlin 2016 during the closed session and it was amazing. Add the ToT deal and the Erieye AWACS and their Datalink system, then we could have a pretty formidable system in our hands.
Agree ... IMHO Gripen would give advantage from the sides of ToT, rafale to much and typhoon i dunno, F16 would be good if US willingly gave all the production line (coz they planed to stop the line rite?) to PT DI ... LoL.
 
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Construction of border road in NTT nearing completion
Rabu, 31 Agustus 2016 13:52 WIB | 877 Views
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Andre Koreh. (nttprov.go.id)

Kupang (ANTARA News) - Construction of a 177 kilometer road along the border line with Timor Leste in East Nusa Tenggara (NTT) is now nearing completion.

The new road, extending across a number of regencies in NTT, is to be officially commissioned by President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) in December this year, head of the provincial Public Works Service Andre Koreh said here on Wednesday.

The president would commission the road together with a number of other infrastructure projects built in the frontier areas, Andre told ANTARA News.

Construction of the road, which began in 2015 has been progressing well so far , and barring any unexpected bottleneck it would be ready for commissioning in December, he said.

As for the construction of a number of cross border roads, the contractor, is still awaiting the disbursement of Rp1.8 trillion from the state budget.

"We hope that the fund could be disbursed soon that work could immediately start," Andre said.

The cross road which is included in the Border Red Belt project, will pass through a number of locations in the eastern sector of the regencies of Belu and Malaka to be built from Motamasin toward Laktutus, Henes, Turiskain,Salore to end in Motaain, which one of the main border passes between Indonesia and Timor Leste in eastern region.

In the central sector of Timor Tengah Utara (TTU) , which borders on Timor Lestes Oecusse enclave, construction would begin from Amol toward Oehose - Manufono that ended in Wini, near Oecusse.

In the western sector in the regency of Kupang, which is also borders on Oecusse, construction would start from Oepoli toward Fefa , Tubona, Saenam, Haumeniana that will end in Fainake.

Meanwhile other route linking Oepoli in the regency of Kupang and Wini in the regency of Timor Tengah Utara, both bordering on Oecusse is now under construction expected to be completed in 2017.

Andre said construction of a number of main border gates is now underway in Motaain in the regency of Belu, which borders on Batugede of Timor Leste.

"It is now almost 100 percent completed. It is in the finishing phase," he said.

A border gate is also under construction in Wini of the regency of Timor Tengah Utara (TTU) bordering on Oecusse and by July it was 47 percent completed.

A similar project is also under construction in Motamasin of the regency of Malaka, which borders on the Kovalima district.

Construction of border gates in the latter two locations has been slowed over land clearing , but now the problem has been solved, Andre said.

Altogether, infrastructure in the frontier areas in a number of regencies in NTT would be "beautiful", he said.

The Central Government has put frontier areas high in its agenda of development program. President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) has stressed the importance of development of the frontier areas not only in NTT but also in a number of other regions including Papua and Kalimantan.

"We thanks the government for its great attention to the welfare of people in frontier areas, which for a long time left lagging behind," Andre said.
(Uu.H-ASG/O001)

http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/106497/construction-of-border-road-in-ntt-nearing-completion
 
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Indonesian defense miniter meet with US Secretary of the Air Force, to discussing the comprehensive cooperation between the two Air Forces


Menhan RI Terima United States Secretary of the Air Force

Berita Terkini | 2016-08-29 12:58:42 | 31 Kali Dibaca

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Jakarta, Menteri Pertahanan Republik Indonesia Ryamizard Ryacudu menerima kunjungan kehormatan United States Secretary of the Air Force Mrs Deborah Lee James, Senin (29/8) di kantor Kementerian Pertahanan, Jakarta.

Dalam kesempatan ini, kedua pihak membicarakan mengenai upaya peningkatan kerjasama pertahanan kedua negara khususnya kerjasama antara Angkatan Udara dari kedua negara.

“Kita memiliki hubungan yang mendalam antara kedua negara termasuk hubungan militer, sehingga tujuan kunjungan kami kesini adalah untuk memperkuat dan mempererat hubungan yang telah dibangun”, ungkap Mrs Deborah Lee James.

Lebih lanjut diungkapkannya bahwa salah satu yang sudah menjadi komitmen Amerika Serikat dalam upaya meningkatkan kerjasama pertahanan kedua negara terutama di bidang pelatihan dan pendidikan untuk personel Angkatan Udara.

Sementara itu Menhan RI menyampaikan, sudah tujuan bersama antara Indonesia dan Amerika Serikat untuk terus berupaya mempererat dan meningkatkan kerjasama pertahanan termasuk hubungan antara Angkatan Bersenjata.

Menurutnya, hubungan politik antara negara kadang pasang surut, namun diharapkan hubungan dan kerjasama pertahanan tidak demikian. Hubungan pertahanan antar negara diharapkan tidak ada pasang surut dan selalu terjaga baik.

“Saya akan menjaga hubungan dengan semua negara terutama dengan negara - negara besar seperti Amerika Serikat. Hubungan yang sudah baik harus dipelihara dan ditingkatkan” ungkap Menhan RI. (BDI/SAS)

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Indonesian defense miniter meet with US Secretary of the Air Force, to discussing the comprehensive cooperation between the two Air Forces


Menhan RI Terima United States Secretary of the Air Force

Berita Terkini | 2016-08-29 12:58:42 | 31 Kali Dibaca

379175menhan-terima-us-secretary-of-the-air-force.jpg
Jakarta, Menteri Pertahanan Republik Indonesia Ryamizard Ryacudu menerima kunjungan kehormatan United States Secretary of the Air Force Mrs Deborah Lee James, Senin (29/8) di kantor Kementerian Pertahanan, Jakarta.

Dalam kesempatan ini, kedua pihak membicarakan mengenai upaya peningkatan kerjasama pertahanan kedua negara khususnya kerjasama antara Angkatan Udara dari kedua negara.

“Kita memiliki hubungan yang mendalam antara kedua negara termasuk hubungan militer, sehingga tujuan kunjungan kami kesini adalah untuk memperkuat dan mempererat hubungan yang telah dibangun”, ungkap Mrs Deborah Lee James.

Lebih lanjut diungkapkannya bahwa salah satu yang sudah menjadi komitmen Amerika Serikat dalam upaya meningkatkan kerjasama pertahanan kedua negara terutama di bidang pelatihan dan pendidikan untuk personel Angkatan Udara.

Sementara itu Menhan RI menyampaikan, sudah tujuan bersama antara Indonesia dan Amerika Serikat untuk terus berupaya mempererat dan meningkatkan kerjasama pertahanan termasuk hubungan antara Angkatan Bersenjata.

Menurutnya, hubungan politik antara negara kadang pasang surut, namun diharapkan hubungan dan kerjasama pertahanan tidak demikian. Hubungan pertahanan antar negara diharapkan tidak ada pasang surut dan selalu terjaga baik.

“Saya akan menjaga hubungan dengan semua negara terutama dengan negara - negara besar seperti Amerika Serikat. Hubungan yang sudah baik harus dipelihara dan ditingkatkan” ungkap Menhan RI. (BDI/SAS)

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Btw, KRI REM 331 Sudah ujicoba otmelnya baru baru ini. 7 tembakan salvo terlihat dalam videonya.

Source: FB komandan KRI REM

Dibikinin simulator canggih, alamat amx-13 bakal terus dipertahankan dan di upgrade :D
Masalahe unitnya banyak, ratusan. Belum yg mau dimodernisasi :D
 
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Five C-130Hs to Join Indonesian Air Force
Aerospace Daily & Defense Report
KUALA LUMPUR — Indonesia’s military transport fleet will be boosted by five C-130H Hercules airlifters

www.m.aviationweek.com/awindefense/five-c-130hs-join-indonesian-air-force

Yuhuuu lancar,makin banyak punya herky nih

Sweden’s Saab in Deal With Indonesia’s Pindad to Sell Air Defense Systems

Jakarta. Leading Swedish aerospace and defense company Saab has signed a deal with state-owned Indonesian weapons manufacturer Pindad to market ground-based air defense systems as well as extend the operational life of Indonesia’s aging air defense missile system.

The Stockholm-based company said in a statement on Thursday that the deal would involve transfer of technology from Saab to upgrade the RBS70 air defense missile systems acquired by Indonesia in the 1980s.

The first focus will be on increasing the operational life of the RBS70 Mk2 anti-aircraft missiles, which have a range of 5,000 to 6,000 meters and a ceiling of 3,000 meters.

“The teaming agreement provides both organizations with the best opportunity to get the collaboration working on a practical level,” Saab Indonesia head Peter Carlqvist said. “Together, we’ll take on the challenge of winning the next major ground-based air defense missile system procurement.”

“Pindad is a perfect partner for Saab. It is one of Indonesia’s major defense firms and a professional supplier to the Indonesian Armed Forces [TNI]. The partnership will allow for extensive technology transfer and industrial cooperation,” Carlqvist added.

According to Saab’s statement, its ground-based air defense system consists of an advanced embedded system design, embedded maintenance support functions, low failure rates and an operational life of up to 30 years.

“This ensures that the customer gets the utmost value for money in terms of price versus performance, tactical flexibility, operational costs, availability and life-cycle cost,” the statement said.

Through the deal with Pindad, Saab will supply a full ground-based air defense missile system utilizing the latest technology.

The agreement will also meet the TNI’s requirements for local content and the transfer of technology.

www.jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/business/swedens-saab-deal-indonesias-pindad-sell-air-defense-systems/
 
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