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That's a decent budget. What's the % of GDP allocated to defense?

we can check the worldbank data here: data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS


Large parts of Indonesian military procurement paid in Euro, and the more than quarter part paid in US Dollar, and the rest paid in Yuan

And if we can absorb domestically even just half of our defense procurement budget, i think we can get more defense equipment for the same cash we spend abroad to fullfil our MEF requirement.

Buy only stuff that we can't build ourself, and buy only from friendly countries that won't interfere with our domestic/internal matters.

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we can check the worldbank data here: data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS




And if we can absorb domestically even just half of our defense procurement budget, i think we can get more defense equipment for the same cash we spend abroad to fullfil our MEF requirement.

Buy only stuff that we can't build ourself, and buy only from friendly countries that won't interfere with our domestic/internal matters.

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Yes i agree, but the funny thing TNI and Polri still purchase small arms such Ak series, M4, GLOCK pistol for their inventory instead of pindad ss2 or p2 pistol.....thats not patriotic to me.....
 
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Yes i agree, but the funny thing TNI and Polri still purchase small arms such Ak series, M4, GLOCK pistol for their inventory instead of pindad ss2 or p2 pistol.....thats not patriotic to me.....

They must keeping an update for those small arms, as they rapidly evolved in the last ten years. And small arms purchase prices is not a big bucks like Fighter purchase or Submarine purchase
 
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They must keeping an update for those small arms, as they rapidly evolved in the last ten years. And small arms purchase prices is not a big bucks like Fighter purchase or Submarine purchase
I dont agree with you on this, there are no great evolution on small arms technology for the past 30 years or so, we are talking about the purchase of thousand of Ak's and m4 here
 
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I dont agree with you on this, there are no great evolution on small arms technology for the past 30 years or so, we are talking about the purchase of thousand of Ak's and m4 here

thousands? even thousand AK and M4 doesn't hit 10 million bucks

Assault rifles does evolved! that's why many advanced countries around the world starting to ditch their old rifles design and made a new ones to cope with the current threat. Not only the mechanism, the materials itself is changing and had been develop rapidly
 
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The minister of defense must hedge their money against US$ first. The defence department used foreign currency the most compare to other department.

The sad part of Rp currency is that, even Indian rupee and Philippine peso are stronger than Rp.
 
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thousands? even thousand AK and M4 doesn't hit 10 million bucks

Assault rifles does evolved! that's why many advanced countries around the world starting to ditch their old rifles design and made a new ones to cope with the current threat. Not only the mechanism, the materials itself is changing and had been develop rapidly
The only improvement is in the:undecided:aplication of the polymer on several parts, the rest is almost the same. 10 million us dollar could mean alot for pindad:undecided:
 
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SAF and RAAF are coming closer to buy 5-6 squadron of F35 each and they buy it fast and easy.

And we are still stuck at deciding what to purchase to replace the F5. And the sad part is, we are only buying 1 squadron, yet it takes forever for them to decide. and the Rp is getting weaker day by day.

Even Vietnam has more guts when purchasing military equipments.
 
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Indonesia to deploy SU-27 to escort transport plane carrying condemned Australians to death row island

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Indonesia’s squadron of Russian-made Sukhoi fighter jets has a strange new mission—riding shotgun beside a transport plane hauling two Australian prisoners to an island prison where they could face a firing squad for smuggling drugs.

“The Indonesian military commander has given the order to assist the relocation of the two death defendants,” Maj. Gen. Torry Djohar said on Feb. 22. “A squadron of Sukhoi jet fighters will be prepared to escort the Hercules aircraft that will be used to transport the defendants. We will also deploy ocean patrol and land forces.”

The Sukhois will accompany a C-130 carrying prisoners Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan from Bali—in the country’s south—to the remote Nusakambangan Island farther west as early as Feb. 27. Nusakambangan is a wildlife refuge that also the location of Indonesia’s most notorious prisons, housing some 2,000 inmates including terrorists and drug traffickers.

“Death row inmates are routinely whisked into the dense forest at midnight, blindfolded, asked to stand, sit or kneel and simultaneously fired at by 12 executioners aiming for their chests,” the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

“The firing squad is drawn from Indonesia’s paramilitary forces and if the prisoner is still breathing, the commander will shoot him or her point-blank in the head.”
 
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With 2%GDP (more or less $B20) for defense budget, we will go spending spree for sure... but we have to wait for atleast another 3 years to make it possible. Economic development is our 1st priority, if 7% growth rate can be achieved within 3 years like what our gov planned, then we can boost our defense budget to 1.5%, and maybe to 2% if economic miracle happen, or defense/security threat mount ... he2.. wish us the best and luck.
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Poso selected as training ground for TNI
Nani Afrida, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | Wed, February 25 2015, 6:04 AM

The Indonesian Military (TNI) has rolled out its plan to use the restive region of Poso in Central Sulawesi as the training ground for its quick reaction strike force (PPRC).

The PPRC has the ability to carry out combat operations anywhere in the country as it is designed for deployment at a moment’s notice.

Members of the unit come from the Army, Navy and Air Force and they are all trained to carry out the primary objective of destroying an enemy.

“In Poso, we found several security problems that should be addressed by our friends in the police force. And it is a coincidence that we will train our PPRC personnel in Poso,” Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Gen. Moeldoko said at the TNI headquarters in Cilangkap, East Jakarta.

The military unit can be deployed on order from the President to handle threats of terrorism, both domestic and international.

Moeldoko said Poso had been selected mainly because it was a hotbed for terrorism.

“Poso is an area where the radical group felt comfortable,” he said.

The TNI chief said the planned training in Poso was also designed to deter terror groups from running their operations.

Counterterrorism operations have been staged in Poso for the past 14 years, with no significant results.

It has been reported that Santoso, one of the most wanted terrorists in Indonesia, is currently in Poso and members of his terror group frequently launched terror attacks in the area.

The police have yet to arrest members of the Santoso group, which has been operating in the region for the last four years.

The military is currently joining the police in conducting anti-terror operations in the area.

“We support the police by deploying intelligence personnel,” Moeldoko said.

Meanwhile, TNI spokesman Maj. Gen. Fuad Basya said the presence of military personnel in Poso, especially members of the PPRC, could be used as backup in case the police failed to handle terrorism problems in the area.

“If Poso cannot be handled by the police, it is possible for the military to take control of the fight against terrorist groups there,” Fuad said.

Fuad declined to give details on how many personnel under the PPRC would be deployed to join the war on terrorism in Poso.

Earlier, Fuad told The Jakarta Post that the military was waiting for President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo’s instruction to start its operation in Poso.

“Currently, the police are conducting a security operation in Poso and the TNI is supporting by deploying intelligence personnel. The police operation will end on March 26,” Fuad said.

He suggested that the order for the TNI to join the war on terror could be issued in March.

Poso was rocked by a sectarian conflict between Muslims and Christians from the late 1990s to the mid-2000s.

Thousands of Christians and Muslims became the victims of the conflict. Although the conflict officially ended with the signing of the Malino Accords in 2001 and 2002, the region remains a hot spot for terrorism.

Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu has reportedly set a deadline for the conflict in Poso to be resolved in three years, assuming that the Defense Ministry and the Office of the Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister could work well together.

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Avalon 2015: ATK sees increased Asia-Pacific interest in gunship conversions
Gareth Jennings, Melbourne - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
24 February 2015

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ATK is seeing a high level of interest in its gunship conversions, such as the AC-235 work it recently completed for Jordan (pictured). Source: IHS/Patrick Allen
ATK has received significant interest in its gunship and light attack aircraft conversions from a number of Asia-Pacific countries, a company official told IHS Jane's at the Australian International Airshow and Aerospace & Defence Exposition 2015.

Interest in ATK's tactical transport gunship conversions has been particularly strong from several regional countries, with capability discussions ongoing, said John Scheiner, vice-president for International Pacific-Rim.

"Australia is very interested in the MC-27J [special mission aircraft, which ATK developed with airframer Alenia Aermacchi]; Indonesia has shown interest in the [Airbus Defence and Space] CN-235 and C-295 gunship conversions; the Philippines recently bought [surplus Lockheed Martin] C-130Ts, which we have briefed about converting [into roll-on/roll-off gunships]; and we have briefed South Korea on gunship applications for the CN-235," he said yesterday (24 February).

ATK's light attack and gunship conversion work has become especially popular over recent years, with Iraq receiving Hellfire-armed AC-208 Combat Caravans, Jordan receiving AC-235 gunships (with a contract for AC-295s expected imminently), and Italy signing for the MC-27J special mission aircraft.

As noted by Scheiner, ATK is 'platform agnostic' and is available to perform such conversions on either existing aircraft in an operator's inventory or on newly acquired platforms. In addition to the AC-208, AC-235/295, and MC-27J conversions, the company is now in discussions with Lockheed Martin to weaponise its latest variant C-130J Hercules.

What makes such conversion so appealing, said Scheiner, is the multirole capability they provide the host aircraft. This is especially true for the Asia-Pacific region, where not too many countries can afford to field 'one-trick' niche platforms.

According to Scheiner, while discussions with regional countries are ongoing, contracts are not expected in the near-term. "We're currently in discussions on capabilities, and not that close to signing contracts," he said. "There is lots of interest, but they now need to get their funding in place."

Avalon 2015: ATK sees increased Asia-Pacific interest in gunship conversions - IHS Jane's 360
 
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