Indonesia Defence Forum

[Nike]

Actually Today we dont have any enemy in our region, but regarding the expansion of our military hardware, it should be in line with our economic perspective and threat. We want to make the important hardware just like cruise missile and fighter jets, so we dont make to many import that can suffer our trade account

So, we are quite patience to see C-705 being produce here in Indonesia, not only just assembling. It can be much cheaper if it is produced in Indonesia. And about the fighter....I think we should wait for KFX/IFX...and for the mean time, 34 F-16 and 16 Su-27/30 is enough (2016)....and maybe our military will buy another16 Su-35 if other South East Asian countries try to add 4,5 generation fighter like Typoon, F-15 SE or Rafale. But hundreds of import fighter is just wasting money, ...........Our military advances should be in line with our defense industry advances...If this can be happen....dont blame us if we become so aggressive again

As an Indonesian member i don't agree, "why" if you ask me?

Indonesia need more reliable and stronger military posture to defend her vast territories and their ever increasing trade lane in International water. Stronger military posture can be used as bargaining chips when you doing some diplomacy stuff with other countries and can be used as security guarantee for your people that your military can do their important task which is to guarding Indonesia Independence and National Interest abroad.

And like the Zarvan said, Indonesian Air Force is Quite Puny, lack in tech stuff and too small if we compare with other Air Forces such as Vietnam, Singapore, India, South Korea and Australia. And i think eight operational Jet Fighter Squadrons is still not enough to defends Indonesia vast territories.

 

[Zarvan]

As an Indonesian member i don't agree, "why" if you ask me?

Indonesia need more reliable and stronger military posture to defend her vast territories and their ever increasing trade lane in International water. Stronger military posture can be used as bargaining chips when you doing some diplomacy stuff with other countries and can be used as security guarantee for your people that your military can do their important task which is to guarding Indonesia Independence and National Interest abroad.

And like the Zarvan said, Indonesian Air Force is Quite Puny, lack in tech stuff and too small if we compare with other Air Forces such as Vietnam, Singapore, India, South Korea and Australia. And i think eight operational Jet Fighter Squadrons is still not enough to defends Indonesia vast territories.

Completely agree you need at least 250 fighter jets of 4.5 generation and at least 250 MBT tank and several hundred anti tank vechiles just like one japan just introduced and with 36 frigates and destroyers along with 18 submarines and many more missiles boats that is the size off forces which Indonesia should have

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Completely agree you need at least 250 fighter jets of 4.5 generation and at least 250 MBT tank and several hundred anti tank vechiles just like one japan just introduced and with 36 frigates and destroyers along with 18 submarines and many more missiles boats that is the size off forces which Indonesia should have

Is there any threat to Indonesia? 250 MBTs? maybe light tanks... heavy or big MBTs like AK-I,T-90 etc arent even suitable for their terrain... etc etc..

 

[Zarvan]

Is there any threat to Indonesia? 250 MBTs? maybe light tanks... heavy or big MBTs like AK-I,T-90 etc arent even suitable for their terrain... etc etc..

Sir this region is volatile with china growing japan and other countries having tension with each other this area is always under threat and either you become a strong force or get ready to get your *** kicked by every second country

 

[Zarvan]

@madokafc other Indonesian members Indonesia should go for these type of Anti Tanks Vehicles this wills suit their terrain

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

During APEC 2013

With thanks to Vor033 from MP. Net :http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?230754-Today-s-Photos-Thursday-September-26th-2013

Indonesian military personnel line up during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian soldiers look on during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

An Indonesian soldier drives an armored vehicle on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personnel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian soldiers look on during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian police personnel prepare their armored vehicles during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

An Indonesian soldier drives an armored vehicle on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian soldiers prepare weapons during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian military personnel line up during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

People photograph an Indonesian Military helicopter after security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian soldiers salute during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

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[Reashot Xigwin]

A Hindu Balinese priest sprinkles holy water on Indonesia soldiers during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian military personnel line up during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

A member of Indonesian special navy forces looks on during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian soldiers prepare weapons during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian special navy forces personnel stand to attention during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian military personnel march during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

Indonesian special navy forces personnel stand to attention during security preparations on September 26, 2013 in Denpasar, Bali, Indonesia. Indonesian military and police personel are making security preparations ahead of the 2013 APEC Leaders Summit, to be held from 1-8 October 2013.

 

[Nike]

Is there any threat to Indonesia? 250 MBTs? maybe light tanks... heavy or big MBTs like AK-I,T-90 etc arent even suitable for their terrain... etc etc..

At least, from official statement of Indonesia Ministry of Defense, has mentioned Indonesia at least need about 400 strong MBT in Leopard 2 classes, and we had got at least 100 from Germany and still in talk about 80 Leopard 2A6 from Netherlands. And Indonesia terrain surely suits for MBT movement and operations in large scale, if you had visited Indonesia you will know.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

At least, from official statement of Indonesia Ministry of Defense, has mentioned Indonesia at least need about 400 strong MBT in Leopard 2 classes, and we had got at least 100 from Germany and still in talk about 80 Leopard 2A6 from Netherlands. And Indonesia terrain surely suits for MBT movement and operations in large scale, if you had visited Indonesia you will know.

Indonesia consists of thousands of islands doesnt it?than rain forests,than bigger islands are mountainous,volcanos? also soil etc also plays an important role in the movement or placement of such assets... in this scenerio...light tanks etc are more suitable... also you should have stronger navy to protect ur islands from precieved "invasions"..... just my personal opinion...

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Firefinder radar on Army's Weapons Exhibition at Monas
October 11, 2013

Firefinder Radar on display at Monas ( all photos : Defense Studies)

Defense equipment exhibition in the National Monument last week featuring many new combat equipment for the Army . One thing that attracts attention is Firefinder Radar for Field Artillery unit . Compared to other equipment , the radar booth is relatively empty of visitors , but the function of the radar equipment is vital for modern artillery .

Firefinder radar/ weapon locating radar is a radar used to detect and locate artillery opponent with data obtained from the trajectory tracking projectiles . Projectile trajectory of artillery usually parabolic , by finding each one point on the trajectory of the satellite dish up and down the origin of the projectile location can be found .

Firefinder radar for the Army is apparently still a prototype research and development ( R & D ) of the army . Announcement of the winning bidder architectures announced in April 2012 by Pussenarmed , and this is the first appearance of the radar R & D results .

This radar is claimed to produce the caliber of data , the speed of the track , time flies , falling and standing point of origin projectile weapons . The data obtained from the signal beam width of 45 degrees with a range of up to 5 km .

The platform vehicle for the Radar is a Toyota Hi - Lux 4x4 grade 3/4 ton . Only 2 people required to operate and radar can be operated continuously as needed .

Neighboring countries have long operate the Firefinder, Singapore has just filed a type 6 purchases AN/TPQ-53 ( V ) Lockheed Martin 's previous state using the radar platform Saab Arthur wheeler - chain Hagglund BV 206 , Malaysia also uses Arthur radar made by ​​Saab with the same vehicle platform . Australia operate AN - TPQ - 63 Northrop Grumman -made pull type same as that operated by the Thai Army , but the Thailand's Marines last year invited a demonstration ​​for Arthur Saab radar with 4 -wheeled platform truck .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/TPQ-36_Firefinder_radar

 

[Julian Rachman]

IMHO,our MBTs are needed and play their role as "moving fortress" just on our big islands like Sumatra,Java,Kalimantan,Sulawesi,,Maluku,Timor,and maybe Papua. I think Indonesian MBTs are suit enough for Kalimantan, in order when our ground forces should keep the line border against opponent MBTs when they consider to break the line, and planning to move deep inside into our territory.
i'm sorry if my english aren't well enough

 

[nufix]

Indonesia consists of thousands of islands doesnt it?than rain forests,than bigger islands are mountainous,volcanos? also soil etc also plays an important role in the movement or placement of such assets... in this scenerio...light tanks etc are more suitable... also you should have stronger navy to protect ur islands from precieved "invasions"..... just my personal opinion...

If Indonesia consists only of forests and unpaved muddy terrain then yes, buying heavy MBTs is a stupid idea. Indonesia actually have more big cities to protect than any other SEA countries , we have thousands of kilometers of highways to protect, what will light tanks do when enemy's MBTs storm the cities via highway? Suicidal bombing or Brutal RPG attack from high buildings? then importing Al-Qaeda fighters should be a better idea isn't it?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If Indonesia consists only of forests and unpaved muddy terrain then yes, buying heavy MBTs is a stupid idea. Indonesia actually have more big cities to protect than any other SEA countries , we have thousands of kilometers of highways to protect, what will light tanks do when enemy's MBTs stormed the cities via highway? Suicidal bombing or Brutal RPG attack from high buildings? then importing Al-Qaeda fighters should be a better idea isn't it?

Who is going to invade Indonesia? any enemies? also to actually enter or invad Indonesia they will first have to fight your navy... get past it and than move into your cities... but good luck to you guys.

 

[Nike]

Who is going to invade Indonesia? any enemies? also to actually enter or invad Indonesia they will first have to fight your navy... get past it and than move into your cities... but good luck to you guys.

Well Indonesia right now is emphasizing their efforts to build a stronger Navy and Air forces, almost 80 percent of TNI resources has been used to build a lot of new warships and to buy new war planes. So Indonesia right now is in the right track sir

well we have Quarrel and bad sentiments against Malaysia and we have direct land border with them too, so i think 400 strong MBT is needed to protect our land border against them

Although Indonesia Malaysia relation is not as bad as India Pakistan relations

triple post

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Can somebody post the pix of the open suv in post number 743... !