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Nope, it's been used in several live firing exercisesIt looks so clean, shiny and tidy... almost doesn't look like second hand stuff!
Is it just out of overhaul...? I don't think we have ever used these ever since we received it right...?
Hopefully they can start using it properly now... How many unit did we get from Belgium..?
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Not directly related to the military or defense matters, however both the MoD and the Ministry of Maritime Affairs are supporting it...
...Under the strategic plan, the ministry aims to have an operational molten salt reactor by 2025, which can be used to either generate electricity or power ships and submarines...
With support from these 2 powerful ministries, it has a much bigger chance of having it turn to reality...
Indonesia’s Nuclear Dream, Revived?
Does the Joko Widodo government have nuclear aspirations?
By Sung-Mi Kim
December 31, 2020
This article is presented by
Diplomat Risk Intelligence, The Diplomat’s consulting and analysis division. Learn more here
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Is Indonesia looking to go nuclear under the Joko Widodo government? In February 2020, Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan, the coordinating minister of maritime affairs and former chief of staff to President Widodo, publicly complained that powerful countries like the United States do not consider Indonesia a serious international player because of its lack of nuclear weapons, seizing some local news headlines. The political heavyweight, a retired four-star army general, is behind a recent bout of interest in cutting-edge nuclear reactor technologies to capitalize on the country’s abundant mineral resources.
In June 2020, Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto held meetings with the governor of the Banka Belitung Islands and it is known that they discussed setting up a ministerial regional office there. Just off the east coast of Sumatra, the islands are estimated to hold 95 percent of Indonesia’s thorium. Thorium itself cannot be used in traditional thermal neutron reactors but upon absorbing a neutron will transmute to uranium-233, an excellent fissile fuel material especially for (advanced) molten salt reactors. In July 2020, a meeting between Luhut and Prabowo was reported for their discussions on the use of tin and rare earth elements.
The sensitivity lies in that thorium and uranium can be extracted from unconventional sources, particularly monazite, which is often co-located with Indonesia’s abundant tin mineral resources. The Defense Ministry appears interested in building a thorium molten salt reactor of a small size – with an electricity generation capacity of 50 megawatts – by 2025 for particular national security purposes like power generation for marine vehicles. Nuclear propulsion will make such vessels capable of longer missions without the need of frequent fuel recharging, compared to conventional diesel-powered ones.
It is uncertain whether concrete steps beyond leadership rhetoric are being taken, and there are questions about how these ministries will be able to mobilize nuclear expertise and industrial capabilities locally. There has long been skepticism about the feasibility of thorium molten salt reactor technologies among nuclear scientists at Indonesia’s National Nuclear Energy Agency, or BATAN, its acronym in the Indonesian language (Badan Tenaga Nuklir Nasional). BATAN scientists have said a commercial thorium molten salt reactor may be made operational only after 2040 despite its advantage in being a highly safe system and its relatively easy and cheap construction.
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Nonetheless, the Defense Ministry signed an agreement with U.S.-based nuclear company ThorCon International in July 2020 to collaborate on the research and development of a small thorium molten salt reactor. Initially, ThorCon had made an ambitious proposal in March 2019 to invest $1.2 billion to develop a larger, 500 megawatt floating nuclear power plant in Indonesia by 2027. To this end, ThorCon has been engaging with key state-owned enterprises such as shipbuilder PT PAL Indonesia, electricity provider PT PLN, and tin miner PT Timah through a series of MOUs and high-level engagements.
National Defense Motivation to Reinvigorate Indonesia’s Interest in Nuclear?
BATAN and the broader nuclear research community and industrial stakeholders in Indonesia may find in the new policy momentum an opportunity to speed up the introduction of nuclear energy. Their efforts to promote nuclear energy in the past decades have been largely unsuccessful due to widespread fears about the risks associated with the Pacific Ring of Fire, a region prone to earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The relative cost disadvantage of conventional nuclear energy was also a frustrating factor because resource-abundant Indonesia has other cheaper and safer means to produce renewable energy through investments in solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, and other alternatives.
Given the policy context, nuclear scientists and industries may welcome new political backing from powerful ministries and politicians to mainstream nuclear advocacy beyond purely commercial or technical calculations. Currently, Indonesia has three small research reactors, without power-generating commercial reactors. President Sukarno (1945-1967) considered nuclear weapons options in the mid-1960s. But after his removal from power in 1967, the Indonesian government agreed to a series of international agreements, committing the country to non-proliferation mandates and the peaceful use of nuclear technology.
Unconventional Uranium Sources Development: Inspection Challenges
The case of Indonesia as a resource-abundant nuclear aspirant in the developing world is also illustrative of some of the growing predicaments faced by the international safeguards community. In other words, nuclear materials inspection is not only about identifying uranium deposits and their whereabouts after excavation. Increasingly the inspection business concerns thorium, as well as unconventional uranium resources such as phosphate rocks, monazite, rare-earth elements, black shales, lignite, and some seawater experiments. Recent technological advancements have made it possible to recover uranium from different unconventional minerals.
Indeed, Indonesia is very keen to develop mineral purification and separation technologies to take advantage of its rich mineral resources, and BATAN is spearheading such efforts for radioactive minerals development. Open source research on the news and scientific publications show that Indonesian researchers are conducting a substantial amount of research into extraction of uranium and thorium from unconventional sources, particularly monazite, which is often co-located with the country’s tin ore mining. Indonesia is the world’s largest tin producer. In May 2020, Indonesia implemented significant changes to its mining law, notably introducing a new type of license specific to the mining of radioactive materials.
Typically these unconventional nuclear materials go underreported in global uranium statistics such as the OECD’s Red Book. There are concerns that these unusual nuclear sources can be routes to clandestine uranium acquisition and potential proliferation risks by extension. IAEA’s inspection resources may need readjustment to cope with the fast-changing technical environment and a growing list of emerging nuclear aspirants, often possessing large nuclear resources under a suboptimal national governance system.
Indonesia is a nuclear frontrunner within the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), together with Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. As many countries in Southeast Asia desire nuclear power as a sustainable energy solution, successful establishment of commercial nuclear energy is seen as a “development milestone,” perhaps also a matter of affirming regional leadership status and national prestige. It remains to be seen whether Jakarta’s emerging interest in nuclear for national defense would be a welcome breakthrough for the country’s nuclear advocates.
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...Under the strategic plan, the ministry aims to have an operational molten salt reactor by 2025, which can be used to either generate electricity or power ships and submarines...
With support from these 2 powerful ministries, it has a much bigger chance of having it turn to reality...
Indonesia’s Nuclear Dream, Revived?
Does the Joko Widodo government have nuclear aspirations?
By Sung-Mi Kim
December 31, 2020
This article is presented by
Diplomat Risk Intelligence, The Diplomat’s consulting and analysis division. Learn more here
Credit: PixabayADVERTISEMENT
Is Indonesia looking to go nuclear under the Joko Widodo government? In February 2020, Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan, the coordinating minister of maritime affairs and former chief of staff to President Widodo, publicly complained that powerful countries like the United States do not consider Indonesia a serious international player because of its lack of nuclear weapons, seizing some local news headlines. The political heavyweight, a retired four-star army general, is behind a recent bout of interest in cutting-edge nuclear reactor technologies to capitalize on the country’s abundant mineral resources.
In June 2020, Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto held meetings with the governor of the Banka Belitung Islands and it is known that they discussed setting up a ministerial regional office there. Just off the east coast of Sumatra, the islands are estimated to hold 95 percent of Indonesia’s thorium. Thorium itself cannot be used in traditional thermal neutron reactors but upon absorbing a neutron will transmute to uranium-233, an excellent fissile fuel material especially for (advanced) molten salt reactors. In July 2020, a meeting between Luhut and Prabowo was reported for their discussions on the use of tin and rare earth elements.
The sensitivity lies in that thorium and uranium can be extracted from unconventional sources, particularly monazite, which is often co-located with Indonesia’s abundant tin mineral resources. The Defense Ministry appears interested in building a thorium molten salt reactor of a small size – with an electricity generation capacity of 50 megawatts – by 2025 for particular national security purposes like power generation for marine vehicles. Nuclear propulsion will make such vessels capable of longer missions without the need of frequent fuel recharging, compared to conventional diesel-powered ones.
It is uncertain whether concrete steps beyond leadership rhetoric are being taken, and there are questions about how these ministries will be able to mobilize nuclear expertise and industrial capabilities locally. There has long been skepticism about the feasibility of thorium molten salt reactor technologies among nuclear scientists at Indonesia’s National Nuclear Energy Agency, or BATAN, its acronym in the Indonesian language (Badan Tenaga Nuklir Nasional). BATAN scientists have said a commercial thorium molten salt reactor may be made operational only after 2040 despite its advantage in being a highly safe system and its relatively easy and cheap construction.
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Nonetheless, the Defense Ministry signed an agreement with U.S.-based nuclear company ThorCon International in July 2020 to collaborate on the research and development of a small thorium molten salt reactor. Initially, ThorCon had made an ambitious proposal in March 2019 to invest $1.2 billion to develop a larger, 500 megawatt floating nuclear power plant in Indonesia by 2027. To this end, ThorCon has been engaging with key state-owned enterprises such as shipbuilder PT PAL Indonesia, electricity provider PT PLN, and tin miner PT Timah through a series of MOUs and high-level engagements.
National Defense Motivation to Reinvigorate Indonesia’s Interest in Nuclear?
BATAN and the broader nuclear research community and industrial stakeholders in Indonesia may find in the new policy momentum an opportunity to speed up the introduction of nuclear energy. Their efforts to promote nuclear energy in the past decades have been largely unsuccessful due to widespread fears about the risks associated with the Pacific Ring of Fire, a region prone to earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The relative cost disadvantage of conventional nuclear energy was also a frustrating factor because resource-abundant Indonesia has other cheaper and safer means to produce renewable energy through investments in solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, and other alternatives.
Given the policy context, nuclear scientists and industries may welcome new political backing from powerful ministries and politicians to mainstream nuclear advocacy beyond purely commercial or technical calculations. Currently, Indonesia has three small research reactors, without power-generating commercial reactors. President Sukarno (1945-1967) considered nuclear weapons options in the mid-1960s. But after his removal from power in 1967, the Indonesian government agreed to a series of international agreements, committing the country to non-proliferation mandates and the peaceful use of nuclear technology.
Unconventional Uranium Sources Development: Inspection Challenges
The case of Indonesia as a resource-abundant nuclear aspirant in the developing world is also illustrative of some of the growing predicaments faced by the international safeguards community. In other words, nuclear materials inspection is not only about identifying uranium deposits and their whereabouts after excavation. Increasingly the inspection business concerns thorium, as well as unconventional uranium resources such as phosphate rocks, monazite, rare-earth elements, black shales, lignite, and some seawater experiments. Recent technological advancements have made it possible to recover uranium from different unconventional minerals.
Indeed, Indonesia is very keen to develop mineral purification and separation technologies to take advantage of its rich mineral resources, and BATAN is spearheading such efforts for radioactive minerals development. Open source research on the news and scientific publications show that Indonesian researchers are conducting a substantial amount of research into extraction of uranium and thorium from unconventional sources, particularly monazite, which is often co-located with the country’s tin ore mining. Indonesia is the world’s largest tin producer. In May 2020, Indonesia implemented significant changes to its mining law, notably introducing a new type of license specific to the mining of radioactive materials.
Typically these unconventional nuclear materials go underreported in global uranium statistics such as the OECD’s Red Book. There are concerns that these unusual nuclear sources can be routes to clandestine uranium acquisition and potential proliferation risks by extension. IAEA’s inspection resources may need readjustment to cope with the fast-changing technical environment and a growing list of emerging nuclear aspirants, often possessing large nuclear resources under a suboptimal national governance system.
Indonesia is a nuclear frontrunner within the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), together with Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. As many countries in Southeast Asia desire nuclear power as a sustainable energy solution, successful establishment of commercial nuclear energy is seen as a “development milestone,” perhaps also a matter of affirming regional leadership status and national prestige. It remains to be seen whether Jakarta’s emerging interest in nuclear for national defense would be a welcome breakthrough for the country’s nuclear advocates.
Indonesia’s Nuclear Dream, Revived?
Does the Joko Widodo government have nuclear aspirations?
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Pindad Biawak 8x8 MPC concept by Telkom University
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Intercom set VHF / FM Anti jamming UHF SATCOM
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Maximum speed on land : 100 km/h
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Steering : hydraulically-assisted power steering, 2 front steering axles
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Weight and Dimensions
LxWxH : 7.6 m x 2.6 m x 2.5 m
Weight : 16 - 24 tons
Power to Weight Ratio : - 22 hp / ton
Ground Clearance : 0.4 m
Equipment
Air-conditioning system
Protections
Monocoque steel v shaped hull Protections from small arms fire, artillery shell splinters, landmines, IED NBC protections (add-ons)
Armament
Infantry 7.62 mm machinegun, 12.7mm machinegun
Cavalry AGL 40 mm
Communications
Intercom set VHF / FM Anti jamming UHF SATCOM
Capacity
2 crew + 10 troops
Mobility
Maximum speed on land : 100 km/h
Maximum speed on water: 10 km/h
Range on land - 700 km
Range on water 60 km
Propeller engine power : counter rotating propellers, 29.000 kg thrust each.
Travels -20 km from dock ship to shore and back
Air transportable C 130 Runflat 1400 R20 80 km escape
Power pack
Engine 6L turbocharged diesel engine 500-560 hp
Gearbox : ZF 7HP902 gearbox 7 forward 1 reverse
Wheels and Suspension: 8 independent wheels, hydro-pneumatic independent
Braking: oleo pneumatically - two line brakes
Steering : hydraulically-assisted power steering, 2 front steering axles
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Opinion about seaglider found recently in our sea territory from Connie Rahakundini
What I can commend is that world maritime axis goal as stated by Jokowi is a starting point, it doesnt mean we have to be very powerful now because we have set that goal, that goal is more about long term goal and the strategy should be followed by adequate economic growth and our defense industry advancement.
Our territory in Natuna islands, Malacca Strait, and Makassar strait are indeed very strategic so the goal stated by Jokowi makes sense and can/should be pursuit, but once again it should be pursuit step by step (gradually) and can only be achieved if our GDP reach 4 trillion USD (current price) like CEBR projection in 2035 that would possibly make Indonesia has 40 billion USD defense budget a year (1 percent of GDP) at that time inshaAllah.
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Talking about Indo-Pacific region, the main conflict happening there is between US and China. No need to be panic that will prompt us to buy huge imported weapon from the West for the next 5 years that will sacrifice other importance thing we must finance like infrastructure, education, industrialization, Research and Development, and our defense industry programs (one example is KFX/IFX program). Even she said we must side with USA, that strategy will make us instanly become China target. Foolish.
Not to mention our debt to GDP ratio will be at 40 % (of GDP) in the end of 2021, this is very alarming that can jeopardize our economic growth due to potential more expensive interest rate when issuing government bond to get loan from financial market because our economic risk is getting higher. Those 20 billion USD foreign loan proposed by defense ministry should be slashed and only be used to buy weapon that contribute to our defense industry advancement and economic growth, imported ones should be for very essential equipment/ammunition like F 5 replacement (1 squadron only) and AMRAMM for our NASAM/F16.
What I can commend is that world maritime axis goal as stated by Jokowi is a starting point, it doesnt mean we have to be very powerful now because we have set that goal, that goal is more about long term goal and the strategy should be followed by adequate economic growth and our defense industry advancement.
Our territory in Natuna islands, Malacca Strait, and Makassar strait are indeed very strategic so the goal stated by Jokowi makes sense and can/should be pursuit, but once again it should be pursuit step by step (gradually) and can only be achieved if our GDP reach 4 trillion USD (current price) like CEBR projection in 2035 that would possibly make Indonesia has 40 billion USD defense budget a year (1 percent of GDP) at that time inshaAllah.
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Talking about Indo-Pacific region, the main conflict happening there is between US and China. No need to be panic that will prompt us to buy huge imported weapon from the West for the next 5 years that will sacrifice other importance thing we must finance like infrastructure, education, industrialization, Research and Development, and our defense industry programs (one example is KFX/IFX program). Even she said we must side with USA, that strategy will make us instanly become China target. Foolish.
Not to mention our debt to GDP ratio will be at 40 % (of GDP) in the end of 2021, this is very alarming that can jeopardize our economic growth due to potential more expensive interest rate when issuing government bond to get loan from financial market because our economic risk is getting higher. Those 20 billion USD foreign loan proposed by defense ministry should be slashed and only be used to buy weapon that contribute to our defense industry advancement and economic growth, imported ones should be for very essential equipment/ammunition like F 5 replacement (1 squadron only) and AMRAMM for our NASAM/F16.
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More likely we should just fine them for littering...or ask for compensation if it damages something..
We can try salvaging it, since it fell in our territory, but there's unlikely any value left in those rocket pieces.. just burnt junk...
As expected, the spent rocket fairing were found somewhere near Kalimantan... it probably have drifted ashore after falling to the ocean..
Potret Puing Diduga Pesawat yang Ada Bintang Kuning-Tulisan CNSA
Tim gabungan mengecek puing logam diduga badan pesawat yang ditemukan di Kotawaringin Barat, Kalteng. Pada benda itu ditemukan logo bintang dan tulisan CNSA.
There's nothing of value there as it's only the fairing.. no engines or anything...
It seems the inspecting team hasn't realised that it came from a rocket though... the article mentions it as 'suspected airplane debris'..
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I hope soon the second hospital ship is completed, PT PAL can win tender for Philippine navy so there will be a continuation going on in the production line of Makassar class LPD. PT PAL is the preferred bidder now in Philippine SSV ships tender and the fact that the tender process is delayed is not really a big problem for PT PAL, they have enough orders already to sustain and grow their business further.
I suspect at the earliest, SSV tender in Philippine will announce its winner in second semester 2021. I think most probably the announcement and contract for the winner will happen in first semester of 2022. Philippine is experiencing very bad recession now, much worst than Indonesia, so some defense tender will be delayed until the economy gets back to normal again.
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