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Just in... credit to @Jatosint
Is this guy good...? I was still hoping for Bu Susi though...
But I think it is good to have someone related to the MoD taking over the Ministry of Maritime Affairs and Fisheries, hopefully there will be even better cooperation between the 2...
I dont think so, he is appointed because he is part of Jokowi presidential campaign team as the team treasurer (so he must provide money for the campaign as he is also a businessman).
I am hopeful as Sandiaga Uno become new minister, I have high hope he will be very pro KFX/IFX program during cabinet meeting and hopefully can influence Jokowi and Sri Mulyani as well. I can say Prabowo candidacy as next President is rather bleak due to his second hand man corruption case. Sandiaga Uno should change party and PAN I think is fit with him.
I see duet of Ridwan Kamil as President and Sandiaga Uno as Vice President (+Presidential Campaign funder) is quite possible and very prospective.
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For "Neptune" the line of foreign armies is already lined up: the first importer of RK-360MTs will become Indonesia - NWTF "Progress"
Powerful missiles, radars and new technologies: the team of NWTF "Progress" has opened a significant market for Ukrainian arms manufacturers
Alexey Levkov
December 24, 2020, 12:17 p.m.
Today, the markets of the Indo-Pacific region - for a number of different reasons - are interested in modern high-quality weapons and are gradually increasing their share in world arms imports. One such country in the region is Indonesia, which has ambitious plans to strengthen its own army. And Ukraine has every chance to export domestic high-tech weapons to this country
Over the past ten years, Indonesia's defense budget has almost doubled in dollar terms (from $ 4.47 billion to about $ 9 billion) and more than 80 billion in national currency. At the same time, the approved defense budget in 2021 is 136.99 billion Indonesian rupees, which is 14.59 more than in 2020.
The increase in the defense budget next year is primarily due to the need to support and modernize the capabilities of the country's armed forces.
It has recently become known that Indonesia wants to buy 48 Rafale fighters in France at once
Thus, the Indonesian market, given the planned increase in funds that this country can spend on the purchase of various weapons, is quite interesting for many global arms manufacturers. Including for Ukrainian companies.
And in this direction there is very positive news for us. As we were told by the representatives of the Progress NWTF, after long negotiations the company managed to convince the Indonesian side of the advantages of a number of Ukrainian models of armaments.
Without further ado, we say that a Memorandum has been signed with Indonesia on the conclusion of a contract for the supply of the RK-360MC "Neptune" offshore mobile missile system from the Luch State Design Bureau. Thus, Indonesia may become the first foreign buyer of "Neptune", which on August 23, 2020 was adopted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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Indonesia's desire to buy this complex indicates two things. First, it speaks to the confidence of Indonesian representatives in the Ukrainian arms manufacturer. Because finding a potential buyer like equipment, which is not in the troops of the country of origin, is quite difficult. And the Ukrainian Navy is to receive the first division of the Neptunes only next year.
Machines of the RK-360MTs complex "Neptune" - mobile command post RKP-360, USPU-360 launcher, TM-360 transport machine and TZM-360 transport-charging machine (without containers)
Secondly, if the project is successful, Ukrainian companies will receive funds that can be used to implement other projects needed to strengthen the country's defense capabilities. This is the reconnaissance and strike drone "Falcon-300", and the aviation version of the R-360 missile, and, finally, a promising Ukrainian SAM, which requires $ 30-50 million.
Ukraine needs to "close its high-precision circuit": the combat triad should be led by the Sokil-300 reconnaissance and strike drone
In addition to the agreements on "Neptune", SE "Progress" also provided all the conditions for the conclusion of contracts for the supply of other Ukrainian products - radars and aircraft missiles.
According to company representatives, the Indonesian military praised the 90K6E radar station from Iskra. This mobile 3D circular radar with a transistor transmitter is designed to detect targets flying at low, medium and high altitudes, and has excellent competitive characteristics.
Mobile review 3D radar 90K6E from NVK Iskra
For example, the maximum limit of radar operation is 500 km, and the target detection range with EPR = 3-5 m² at a flight altitude of up to 10 km is 360 km. The number of accompanied targets is 500. Note that this complex can be transported by C-130.
By the way, the Ukrainian radar 90K6E had quite powerful competitors - Thales and Leonardo. But, as the representatives of "Progress" told us, the Indonesian military is leaning towards our products.
Ukrainian radars are known abroad - the most popular station is a mobile three-coordinate radar roundabout 36D6. The newest station of the series was the 36D6M radar
Interestingly, in 2020, one of these companies - Leonardo - signed a contract with Indonesia for the supply of radar system RAT 31 DL / M for its own air force.
Finally, Indonesia was also interested in R-27 aircraft missiles produced by Artem State Joint-Stock Company. It will be recalled that the Indonesian military is already familiar with these products. But, so to speak, in fairly small amounts - according to open sources, from 2010 to 2018, Indonesia received from us five such missiles.
R-27 aircraft missile line
In total, Ukraine exported thousands of R-27 missiles of various modifications. However, in recent years, exports of these missiles have declined and competitors have begun to argue that Ukraine cannot independently create R-27 aircraft missiles.
We are talking about the fact that today in Ukraine the full cycle of import substitution for the components of this missile has been completed, starting from the homing head and ending with the solid propellant engine and other components. Defense Express will tell about it in a separate material in the near future.
Ukrainian Su-27 launches R-27 aircraft missile. Photo: Tatiana Senchenko
Indonesia is to equip Su-27 and Su-30 fighters of its own air force with an R-27 missile. This aircraft missile intercepts and destroys manned and unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as cruise missiles day and night, including in difficult weather conditions.
Powerful missiles, radars and new technologies: the team of NWTF "Progress" has opened a significant market for Ukrainian arms manufacturers
Alexey Levkov
December 24, 2020, 12:17 p.m.
Today, the markets of the Indo-Pacific region - for a number of different reasons - are interested in modern high-quality weapons and are gradually increasing their share in world arms imports. One such country in the region is Indonesia, which has ambitious plans to strengthen its own army. And Ukraine has every chance to export domestic high-tech weapons to this country
Over the past ten years, Indonesia's defense budget has almost doubled in dollar terms (from $ 4.47 billion to about $ 9 billion) and more than 80 billion in national currency. At the same time, the approved defense budget in 2021 is 136.99 billion Indonesian rupees, which is 14.59 more than in 2020.
The increase in the defense budget next year is primarily due to the need to support and modernize the capabilities of the country's armed forces.
Thus, the Indonesian market, given the planned increase in funds that this country can spend on the purchase of various weapons, is quite interesting for many global arms manufacturers. Including for Ukrainian companies.
And in this direction there is very positive news for us. As we were told by the representatives of the Progress NWTF, after long negotiations the company managed to convince the Indonesian side of the advantages of a number of Ukrainian models of armaments.
Without further ado, we say that a Memorandum has been signed with Indonesia on the conclusion of a contract for the supply of the RK-360MC "Neptune" offshore mobile missile system from the Luch State Design Bureau. Thus, Indonesia may become the first foreign buyer of "Neptune", which on August 23, 2020 was adopted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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Indonesia's desire to buy this complex indicates two things. First, it speaks to the confidence of Indonesian representatives in the Ukrainian arms manufacturer. Because finding a potential buyer like equipment, which is not in the troops of the country of origin, is quite difficult. And the Ukrainian Navy is to receive the first division of the Neptunes only next year.
Secondly, if the project is successful, Ukrainian companies will receive funds that can be used to implement other projects needed to strengthen the country's defense capabilities. This is the reconnaissance and strike drone "Falcon-300", and the aviation version of the R-360 missile, and, finally, a promising Ukrainian SAM, which requires $ 30-50 million.
In addition to the agreements on "Neptune", SE "Progress" also provided all the conditions for the conclusion of contracts for the supply of other Ukrainian products - radars and aircraft missiles.
According to company representatives, the Indonesian military praised the 90K6E radar station from Iskra. This mobile 3D circular radar with a transistor transmitter is designed to detect targets flying at low, medium and high altitudes, and has excellent competitive characteristics.
For example, the maximum limit of radar operation is 500 km, and the target detection range with EPR = 3-5 m² at a flight altitude of up to 10 km is 360 km. The number of accompanied targets is 500. Note that this complex can be transported by C-130.
By the way, the Ukrainian radar 90K6E had quite powerful competitors - Thales and Leonardo. But, as the representatives of "Progress" told us, the Indonesian military is leaning towards our products.
Interestingly, in 2020, one of these companies - Leonardo - signed a contract with Indonesia for the supply of radar system RAT 31 DL / M for its own air force.
Finally, Indonesia was also interested in R-27 aircraft missiles produced by Artem State Joint-Stock Company. It will be recalled that the Indonesian military is already familiar with these products. But, so to speak, in fairly small amounts - according to open sources, from 2010 to 2018, Indonesia received from us five such missiles.
In total, Ukraine exported thousands of R-27 missiles of various modifications. However, in recent years, exports of these missiles have declined and competitors have begun to argue that Ukraine cannot independently create R-27 aircraft missiles.
We are talking about the fact that today in Ukraine the full cycle of import substitution for the components of this missile has been completed, starting from the homing head and ending with the solid propellant engine and other components. Defense Express will tell about it in a separate material in the near future.
Indonesia is to equip Su-27 and Su-30 fighters of its own air force with an R-27 missile. This aircraft missile intercepts and destroys manned and unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as cruise missiles day and night, including in difficult weather conditions.
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It the CAATSA thing that neptune been choosen its the BALL-E or Bastion they want lolFor "Neptune" the line of foreign armies is already lined up: the first importer of RK-360MTs will become Indonesia - NWTF "Progress"
Powerful missiles, radars and new technologies: the team of NWTF "Progress" has opened a significant market for Ukrainian arms manufacturers
Alexey Levkov
December 24, 2020, 12:17 p.m.
Today, the markets of the Indo-Pacific region - for a number of different reasons - are interested in modern high-quality weapons and are gradually increasing their share in world arms imports. One such country in the region is Indonesia, which has ambitious plans to strengthen its own army. And Ukraine has every chance to export domestic high-tech weapons to this country
Over the past ten years, Indonesia's defense budget has almost doubled in dollar terms (from $ 4.47 billion to about $ 9 billion) and more than 80 billion in national currency. At the same time, the approved defense budget in 2021 is 136.99 billion Indonesian rupees, which is 14.59 more than in 2020.
The increase in the defense budget next year is primarily due to the need to support and modernize the capabilities of the country's armed forces.
It has recently become known that Indonesia wants to buy 48 Rafale fighters in France at once
Thus, the Indonesian market, given the planned increase in funds that this country can spend on the purchase of various weapons, is quite interesting for many global arms manufacturers. Including for Ukrainian companies.
And in this direction there is very positive news for us. As we were told by the representatives of the Progress NWTF, after long negotiations the company managed to convince the Indonesian side of the advantages of a number of Ukrainian models of armaments.
Without further ado, we say that a Memorandum has been signed with Indonesia on the conclusion of a contract for the supply of the RK-360MC "Neptune" offshore mobile missile system from the Luch State Design Bureau. Thus, Indonesia may become the first foreign buyer of "Neptune", which on August 23, 2020 was adopted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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Indonesia's desire to buy this complex indicates two things. First, it speaks to the confidence of Indonesian representatives in the Ukrainian arms manufacturer. Because finding a potential buyer like equipment, which is not in the troops of the country of origin, is quite difficult. And the Ukrainian Navy is to receive the first division of the Neptunes only next year.
Machines of the RK-360MTs complex "Neptune" - mobile command post RKP-360, USPU-360 launcher, TM-360 transport machine and TZM-360 transport-charging machine (without containers)
Secondly, if the project is successful, Ukrainian companies will receive funds that can be used to implement other projects needed to strengthen the country's defense capabilities. This is the reconnaissance and strike drone "Falcon-300", and the aviation version of the R-360 missile, and, finally, a promising Ukrainian SAM, which requires $ 30-50 million.
Ukraine needs to "close its high-precision circuit": the combat triad should be led by the Sokil-300 reconnaissance and strike drone
In addition to the agreements on "Neptune", SE "Progress" also provided all the conditions for the conclusion of contracts for the supply of other Ukrainian products - radars and aircraft missiles.
According to company representatives, the Indonesian military praised the 90K6E radar station from Iskra. This mobile 3D circular radar with a transistor transmitter is designed to detect targets flying at low, medium and high altitudes, and has excellent competitive characteristics.
Mobile review 3D radar 90K6E from NVK Iskra
For example, the maximum limit of radar operation is 500 km, and the target detection range with EPR = 3-5 m² at a flight altitude of up to 10 km is 360 km. The number of accompanied targets is 500. Note that this complex can be transported by C-130.
By the way, the Ukrainian radar 90K6E had quite powerful competitors - Thales and Leonardo. But, as the representatives of "Progress" told us, the Indonesian military is leaning towards our products.
Ukrainian radars are known abroad - the most popular station is a mobile three-coordinate radar roundabout 36D6. The newest station of the series was the 36D6M radar
Interestingly, in 2020, one of these companies - Leonardo - signed a contract with Indonesia for the supply of radar system RAT 31 DL / M for its own air force.
Finally, Indonesia was also interested in R-27 aircraft missiles produced by Artem State Joint-Stock Company. It will be recalled that the Indonesian military is already familiar with these products. But, so to speak, in fairly small amounts - according to open sources, from 2010 to 2018, Indonesia received from us five such missiles.
R-27 aircraft missile line
In total, Ukraine exported thousands of R-27 missiles of various modifications. However, in recent years, exports of these missiles have declined and competitors have begun to argue that Ukraine cannot independently create R-27 aircraft missiles.
We are talking about the fact that today in Ukraine the full cycle of import substitution for the components of this missile has been completed, starting from the homing head and ending with the solid propellant engine and other components. Defense Express will tell about it in a separate material in the near future.
Ukrainian Su-27 launches R-27 aircraft missile. Photo: Tatiana Senchenko
Indonesia is to equip Su-27 and Su-30 fighters of its own air force with an R-27 missile. This aircraft missile intercepts and destroys manned and unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as cruise missiles day and night, including in difficult weather conditions.
I thought so too... How good is it compared to Bastion...?
Btw is there a western equivalent of the Bastion...?
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Oh yes from what they said naptune is an upgrade version with "western" Tech but from my own personal opinion there nothing much to it, just have a batter FCS Display or Combat Stasion Post , for the mislle it self just the same they have to rebuilt it and change some with new electronics spare part that been produce by ruskies with their own build,but honestly i think there no equivalent off it from western side.
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I heard that Indonesia is In talks with Italy for frigates ? Any info .
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Well our Mindef talks to many suppliers but so far the frigates from Denmark is still the ones that could be said has the bigger chance to get approval by our government due to several factors. First is because all vessels will be built in Indonesia shipyard completely that could include raw material like steel plates as well from our steel maker company. Second, the preliminary contract has been signed and currently undergoing design phase (fitting with Indonesian needs and demands).
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Which variant of the r 27 missile
For "Neptune" the line of foreign armies is already lined up: the first importer of RK-360MTs will become Indonesia - NWTF "Progress"
Powerful missiles, radars and new technologies: the team of NWTF "Progress" has opened a significant market for Ukrainian arms manufacturers
Alexey Levkov
December 24, 2020, 12:17 p.m.
Today, the markets of the Indo-Pacific region - for a number of different reasons - are interested in modern high-quality weapons and are gradually increasing their share in world arms imports. One such country in the region is Indonesia, which has ambitious plans to strengthen its own army. And Ukraine has every chance to export domestic high-tech weapons to this country
Over the past ten years, Indonesia's defense budget has almost doubled in dollar terms (from $ 4.47 billion to about $ 9 billion) and more than 80 billion in national currency. At the same time, the approved defense budget in 2021 is 136.99 billion Indonesian rupees, which is 14.59 more than in 2020.
The increase in the defense budget next year is primarily due to the need to support and modernize the capabilities of the country's armed forces.
It has recently become known that Indonesia wants to buy 48 Rafale fighters in France at once
Thus, the Indonesian market, given the planned increase in funds that this country can spend on the purchase of various weapons, is quite interesting for many global arms manufacturers. Including for Ukrainian companies.
And in this direction there is very positive news for us. As we were told by the representatives of the Progress NWTF, after long negotiations the company managed to convince the Indonesian side of the advantages of a number of Ukrainian models of armaments.
Without further ado, we say that a Memorandum has been signed with Indonesia on the conclusion of a contract for the supply of the RK-360MC "Neptune" offshore mobile missile system from the Luch State Design Bureau. Thus, Indonesia may become the first foreign buyer of "Neptune", which on August 23, 2020 was adopted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
""
Indonesia's desire to buy this complex indicates two things. First, it speaks to the confidence of Indonesian representatives in the Ukrainian arms manufacturer. Because finding a potential buyer like equipment, which is not in the troops of the country of origin, is quite difficult. And the Ukrainian Navy is to receive the first division of the Neptunes only next year.
Machines of the RK-360MTs complex "Neptune" - mobile command post RKP-360, USPU-360 launcher, TM-360 transport machine and TZM-360 transport-charging machine (without containers)
Secondly, if the project is successful, Ukrainian companies will receive funds that can be used to implement other projects needed to strengthen the country's defense capabilities. This is the reconnaissance and strike drone "Falcon-300", and the aviation version of the R-360 missile, and, finally, a promising Ukrainian SAM, which requires $ 30-50 million.
Ukraine needs to "close its high-precision circuit": the combat triad should be led by the Sokil-300 reconnaissance and strike drone
In addition to the agreements on "Neptune", SE "Progress" also provided all the conditions for the conclusion of contracts for the supply of other Ukrainian products - radars and aircraft missiles.
According to company representatives, the Indonesian military praised the 90K6E radar station from Iskra. This mobile 3D circular radar with a transistor transmitter is designed to detect targets flying at low, medium and high altitudes, and has excellent competitive characteristics.
Mobile review 3D radar 90K6E from NVK Iskra
For example, the maximum limit of radar operation is 500 km, and the target detection range with EPR = 3-5 m² at a flight altitude of up to 10 km is 360 km. The number of accompanied targets is 500. Note that this complex can be transported by C-130.
By the way, the Ukrainian radar 90K6E had quite powerful competitors - Thales and Leonardo. But, as the representatives of "Progress" told us, the Indonesian military is leaning towards our products.
Ukrainian radars are known abroad - the most popular station is a mobile three-coordinate radar roundabout 36D6. The newest station of the series was the 36D6M radar
Interestingly, in 2020, one of these companies - Leonardo - signed a contract with Indonesia for the supply of radar system RAT 31 DL / M for its own air force.
Finally, Indonesia was also interested in R-27 aircraft missiles produced by Artem State Joint-Stock Company. It will be recalled that the Indonesian military is already familiar with these products. But, so to speak, in fairly small amounts - according to open sources, from 2010 to 2018, Indonesia received from us five such missiles.
R-27 aircraft missile line
In total, Ukraine exported thousands of R-27 missiles of various modifications. However, in recent years, exports of these missiles have declined and competitors have begun to argue that Ukraine cannot independently create R-27 aircraft missiles.
We are talking about the fact that today in Ukraine the full cycle of import substitution for the components of this missile has been completed, starting from the homing head and ending with the solid propellant engine and other components. Defense Express will tell about it in a separate material in the near future.
Ukrainian Su-27 launches R-27 aircraft missile. Photo: Tatiana Senchenko
Indonesia is to equip Su-27 and Su-30 fighters of its own air force with an R-27 missile. This aircraft missile intercepts and destroys manned and unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as cruise missiles day and night, including in difficult weather conditions.
The article is not really encouraging... however as mentioned in the last paragraph, this is not (at least not yet) the official stand of the Indonesian government and thus not all hope is lost yet...
@Indos, The article also mentioned that the 114 PTDI engineers that was earlier repatriated from Korea didn't return back... But I read in some local news that those PTDI engineers has already gone back to Korea to continue the work... which one is true....?
Indonesia appears likely to withdraw from joint fighter jet project
Koreaâs ambitious indigenous fighter jet project may end up costing taxpayers much more than they bargained for, as its partner Indonesia toys with pulling out from the program altogether.
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@Indos, The article also mentioned that the 114 PTDI engineers that was earlier repatriated from Korea didn't return back... But I read in some local news that those PTDI engineers has already gone back to Korea to continue the work... which one is true....?
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The article is not really encouraging... however as mentioned in the last paragraph, this is not (at least not yet) the official stand of the Indonesian government and thus not all hope is lost yet...
Indonesia appears likely to withdraw from joint fighter jet project
Koreaâs ambitious indigenous fighter jet project may end up costing taxpayers much more than they bargained for, as its partner Indonesia toys with pulling out from the program altogether.koreajoongangdaily.joins.com
@Indos, The article also mentioned that the 114 PTDI engineers that was earlier repatriated from Korea didn't return back... But I read in some local news that those PTDI engineers has already gone back to Korea to continue the work... which one is true....?
Yup, the news is written based on speculation, no official statement yet ever made after the last renegotiation. ADD official from Korea that is asked by the reporter is still quite confident with Indonesia participation.
Can you give the link on the local news saying the engineers have come back to Korea ??
Those 114 engineers from Indonesia Aerospace are all designers that have worked side by side with KAI and Lockheed Martin in the design phase of KFX/IFX program. The design have been completed in the end of 2019 as in October they have already done CDR meeting.
So the return of them in March 2020 is not really a problem since 2020 is the period of manufacturing, not design anymore. So Indonesia Aerospace should send their engineers from production division. There is possibility that engineers from production division may be quite busy with the current orders like 9 NC 212 i and 2 CN 235 + 2 (+1 in Januany 2021) CN 235 Malaysia conversion into MPA role + 1 Brunei CN 235 (just completed a month ago) for fixed wing division while there are 8 Caracal and 9 BEL 412 order from Indonesian Armed Force for rotary division. Not to mention our UCAV Male program that is expected to have maiden flight in first semester 2021.
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I think we should celebrate this moment for a while .....This is a big moment for us, Indonesian, after IMF sabotage our N 250 and N 2130 program in 1998-2004 due to the fact that we need their money during Asian Financial Crisis.
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