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[LtMaverick]

i think i've seen this kind of guy comment pattern somewhere too where he leads to overchauvinistic statement , but i forgot where , better stop the arguement right now , or just agree to disagree .

i agree with you, better tell my friends now rather the argument doesn't stop

 

[Nike]

Defense & Security Thailand 2019: J-Forces showcases ILSV-LRD and ILSV-GAG armored vehicles
Defense & Security 2019 News Official Online Show Daily Thailand
POSTED ON THURSDAY, 21 NOVEMBER 2019 12:12


The Indonesian company PT Jala Berikat Nusantara Perkasa produces a wide array of military and security products. Among these, two 4x4 armored vehicles are displayed at Defense & Security Thailand 2019: the ILSV-LRD and the ILSV-GAG.

J-Forces ILSV-LRD (Picture source: Army Recognition)

The ILSV-LRD (LRD standing for Long-Range Device) is a vehicle weighing 4,644kg (dry) or 4,644kg (gross) designed to accommodate 4 people, including driver and vehicle commander. The 4-cylinder, 16-valve DOHC 2,393cc diesel engine, boasts 170hp at 3,400 rpm, and a 400 Nm torque at 1,600 rpm. The engine is coupled to a 6-speed manual gearbox. The steel hull and bulletproof glass windows offer a ballistic protection NIJ standard level III. The vehicle is equipped with run-flat tires.

The ILSV-GAG is an armored personnel carrier offering a ballistic protection NIJ standard level III. According to its technical characteristics, it is a variant built on the same chassis as the LRD and other versions of the same vehicle class.

J-Forces ILSV-GAG (Picture source: Army Recognition)


@LtMaverick

The above is a better way to explaining, when you are using commercial type technology for military purpose thus the way to secure the usage is still by getting the consent of the original manufacturer and the original country, PT jala berikat nusantara is using Japanese vehicles chasis and engine for their product

PT PINDAD still in negotiation to secure South Korean tech or Japan to replace French made engines and power train in Anoa 2

 

[LtMaverick]

Most if not all Military tech doesnt protected by commercial patent standard, the only way to protected them is by State owned law and other security measure, the license to get them is can only be given by the original OEM and the original country consent. Thus this can be achieved by G to G and B to B scheme, the case is like Japan can get their hand on F 16 tech is because the consent of US and Lockheed , Indonesia can get their hand on SS 1 is because the consent of Belgian government and FN and so on

thanks bro, i thought The F2 designed was fixed between japs and GD before 93 LM takeover

Defense & Security Thailand 2019: J-Forces showcases ILSV-LRD and ILSV-GAG armored vehicles
Defense & Security 2019 News Official Online Show Daily Thailand
POSTED ON THURSDAY, 21 NOVEMBER 2019 12:12


The Indonesian company PT Jala Berikat Nusantara Perkasa produces a wide array of military and security products. Among these, two 4x4 armored vehicles are displayed at Defense & Security Thailand 2019: the ILSV-LRD and the ILSV-GAG.

J-Forces ILSV-LRD (Picture source: Army Recognition)

The ILSV-LRD (LRD standing for Long-Range Device) is a vehicle weighing 4,644kg (dry) or 4,644kg (gross) designed to accommodate 4 people, including driver and vehicle commander. The 4-cylinder, 16-valve DOHC 2,393cc diesel engine, boasts 170hp at 3,400 rpm, and a 400 Nm torque at 1,600 rpm. The engine is coupled to a 6-speed manual gearbox. The steel hull and bulletproof glass windows offer a ballistic protection NIJ standard level III. The vehicle is equipped with run-flat tires.

The ILSV-GAG is an armored personnel carrier offering a ballistic protection NIJ standard level III. According to its technical characteristics, it is a variant built on the same chassis as the LRD and other versions of the same vehicle class.

J-Forces ILSV-GAG (Picture source: Army Recognition)


@LtMaverick

The above is a better way to explaining, when you are using commercial type technology for military purpose thus the way to secure the usage is still by getting the consent of the original manufacturer and the original country, PT jala berikat nusantara is using Japanese vehicles chasis and engine for their product

PT PINDAD still in negotiation to secure South Korean tech or Japan to replace French made engines and power train in Anoa 2

ah i see i see

 

[Nike]

thanks bro, i thought The F2 designed was fixed between japs and GD before 93 LM takeover



ah i see i see

The government negotiation for this project going for almost a decade, starting with around 1984 and start of production begin in 1996. A lot of drama and coercion clouding this project though, including pressure from US Government for Japan to accept their proposal and bringing a lot of diplomatic crisis in the table including Toshiba infringiment to sale propeller Milling machinery to Sovyet Union.

 

[LtMaverick]

The government negotiation for this project going for almost a decade, starting with around 1984 and start of production begin in 1996. A lot of drama and coercion clouding this project though, including pressure from US Government for Japan to accept their proposal and bringing a lot of diplomatic crisis in the table including Toshiba infringiment to sale propeller Milling machinery to Sovyet Union.

ah ok, thanks for the heads up

 

[Indos]

i mean his reason are basically thisView attachment 590965
but that doesn't make any sense

Just add another info

Supertucano is designed and produced by Embraer and the chief designer of Supertucano left Embraer and work for Novaer, another Brazilian aerospace company.

Calidus, a new UAE company who just start their operation in 2015 ask Novaer to design a plane for them. The design look like will be owned by Calidus. So Novaer design B 250 for Calidus.

Those two prototype of B250 are also made in Novaer. Novaer look like an aerospace company which only focus on designing since they only have 200 employee. Supertucano and B250 Calidus indeed are quite similar.

This is Novaer website

http://www.novaer.ind.br/b-250/

 

[LtMaverick]

http://militermeter.com/malaysia-mau-beli-pesawat-intai-maritim-p8-poseidon/
RMN wants a poseidon but they need 3 years to have kajian dan bla bla bla

and What's interesting from our neighbor

Dalam hal persyaratan LCA, pejabat tersebut menekankan bahwa platform yang dipilih harus dapat melakukan misi tempur udara-ke-udara dan udara-ke-darat secara efektif, dengan kemampuan serang maritim di masa depan; bahwa ia juga harus mampu melakukan operasi anti pemberontakan; serta harganya murah atau “layak secara ekonomi”; dan cukup dibeli untuk dapat melakukan operasi di dua teater secara bersamaan, dan dalam waktu yang sangat singkat.

and Also

Kementerian Pertahanan Malaysia secara resmi mengeluarkan statemen bahwa tidak ada rancangan untuk membeli pesawat tempur baru, kata Menteri Pertahanan Malaysia Mohamad Sabu.

Bahkan tawaran Rusia untuk trade-in 28 pesawat tempur Su-30MKM dan MiG-29 dan pesawat Su-35 juga ditolak.

“Kementrian Pertahanan lebih mengutamakan pada pesawat patroli perbatasan maritim untuk menghalau pesawat asing,” katanya pada sidang Dewan Rakyat hari ini.


Beliau menjelaskan bahwa kebijakan ini adaah bagian dari program Pelan Pembangunan Keupayaan Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia 2055 (CAP55) yang menggariskan “perancangan menyeluruh” pembangunan angkatan udara sampai tahun 2055.

Dalam plan CAP55 terdapat rencana untuk pembelian alutsista baru, penggantian pesawat usang, kenaikan gaji pasukan serta masalah terkini yaitu kurangnya jenis pesawat tempur, isu pesawat tua dan anggaran yang minim.

Ini pertanda, Malaysia akan terus menggunakan Su-30MKM dan pesawat tempur F/A-18D untuk 10 tahun lagi sehingga 2030, saat plan CAP55 masuk ke tahapan ke-12 dan ke-13.

Anggota parlemen Ahmad Fadhli Shaari (PAS-Pasir Mas) meminta Menteri Pertahanan untuk menyetujui tawarain Rusia untuk trade-in/tukar tambah Su-30MKM dan MiG-29 dengan pesawat baru Su-35.

“Keperluan terkini adalah perolehan Maritime Patrol Aircraft (pesawat peronda maritim) dan Medium Altitude Long Endurance Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (pesawat udara tanpa pemandu altitud sederhana ketahanan lama), serta keupayaan tempur ringan dan latihan juruterbang melalui perolehan Light Combat Aircraft (pesawat tempur ringan),” jawab Menhan Malaysia.

“Antara perkara yang kita titik beratkanialah kemudahan mendapatkan alat ganti untuk selenggaraan,” katanya, dan menambah kos menyelenggara Su-30MKM berjumlah RM200 juta setahun.

Sementara itu, Mohamad memaklumkan kertas putih melibatkan kementerian itu akan turut dibentangkan pada sidang Parlimen kali ini.

“Sebab sekarang ini jet-jet mahal, kadang-kadang perlu tapi kadangkala dron yang lebih murah biayanya bisa menjalankan tugas seimbang dengan jet yang lebih hebat,” katanya.

Just add another info

Supertucano is designed and produced by Embraer and the chief designer of Supertucano left Embraer and work for Novaer, another Brazilian aerospace company.

Calidus, a new UAE company who just start their operation in 2015 ask Novaer to design a plane for them. The design look like will be owned by Calidus. So Novaer design B 250 for Calidus.

Those two prototype of B250 are also made in Novaer. Novaer look like an aerospace company which only focus on designing since they only have 200 employee. Supertucano and B250 Calidus indeed are quite similar.

This is Novaer website

http://www.novaer.ind.br/b-250/

thanks but it would be a nonsense to a license problem btw

 

[Nike]

http://militermeter.com/malaysia-mau-beli-pesawat-intai-maritim-p8-poseidon/
RMN wants a poseidon but they need 3 years to have kajian dan bla bla bla

and What's interesting from our neighborView attachment 590971
Dalam hal persyaratan LCA, pejabat tersebut menekankan bahwa platform yang dipilih harus dapat melakukan misi tempur udara-ke-udara dan udara-ke-darat secara efektif, dengan kemampuan serang maritim di masa depan; bahwa ia juga harus mampu melakukan operasi anti pemberontakan; serta harganya murah atau “layak secara ekonomi”; dan cukup dibeli untuk dapat melakukan operasi di dua teater secara bersamaan, dan dalam waktu yang sangat singkat.

and Also
View attachment 590987
Kementerian Pertahanan Malaysia secara resmi mengeluarkan statemen bahwa tidak ada rancangan untuk membeli pesawat tempur baru, kata Menteri Pertahanan Malaysia Mohamad Sabu.

Bahkan tawaran Rusia untuk trade-in 28 pesawat tempur Su-30MKM dan MiG-29 dan pesawat Su-35 juga ditolak.

“Kementrian Pertahanan lebih mengutamakan pada pesawat patroli perbatasan maritim untuk menghalau pesawat asing,” katanya pada sidang Dewan Rakyat hari ini.


Beliau menjelaskan bahwa kebijakan ini adaah bagian dari program Pelan Pembangunan Keupayaan Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia 2055 (CAP55) yang menggariskan “perancangan menyeluruh” pembangunan angkatan udara sampai tahun 2055.

Dalam plan CAP55 terdapat rencana untuk pembelian alutsista baru, penggantian pesawat usang, kenaikan gaji pasukan serta masalah terkini yaitu kurangnya jenis pesawat tempur, isu pesawat tua dan anggaran yang minim.

Ini pertanda, Malaysia akan terus menggunakan Su-30MKM dan pesawat tempur F/A-18D untuk 10 tahun lagi sehingga 2030, saat plan CAP55 masuk ke tahapan ke-12 dan ke-13.

Anggota parlemen Ahmad Fadhli Shaari (PAS-Pasir Mas) meminta Menteri Pertahanan untuk menyetujui tawarain Rusia untuk trade-in/tukar tambah Su-30MKM dan MiG-29 dengan pesawat baru Su-35.

“Keperluan terkini adalah perolehan Maritime Patrol Aircraft (pesawat peronda maritim) dan Medium Altitude Long Endurance Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (pesawat udara tanpa pemandu altitud sederhana ketahanan lama), serta keupayaan tempur ringan dan latihan juruterbang melalui perolehan Light Combat Aircraft (pesawat tempur ringan),” jawab Menhan Malaysia.

“Antara perkara yang kita titik beratkanialah kemudahan mendapatkan alat ganti untuk selenggaraan,” katanya, dan menambah kos menyelenggara Su-30MKM berjumlah RM200 juta setahun.

Sementara itu, Mohamad memaklumkan kertas putih melibatkan kementerian itu akan turut dibentangkan pada sidang Parlimen kali ini.

“Sebab sekarang ini jet-jet mahal, kadang-kadang perlu tapi kadangkala dron yang lebih murah biayanya bisa menjalankan tugas seimbang dengan jet yang lebih hebat,” katanya.


thanks but it would be a nonsense to a license problem btw

Malaysia doesnt have much money to begin with

 

[LtMaverick]

Malaysia doesnt have much money to begin with

roses are red violets are blue
i dont have money so i don't buy that too

 

[Jatosint]

Seriously, what's wrong with these so called HR Activist/SJW?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1197867265460330497

 

[LtMaverick]

Tbh i was curious about why badak reduced to 14 units only, is it because of pandur FSV or unsatisfactory performance tho?

Seriously, what's wrong with these so called HR Activist/SJW?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1197867265460330497

HR Activist Nowadays Are Total BS just like this girl

 

[Raduga]

Seriously, what's wrong with these so called HR Activist/SJW?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1197867265460330497

losing momentum for her promise with the OPM , simply , she's already lost her mind lol .

 

[Nike]

Wirajaya Ausindo 2019

 

[Kansel]

Look at that last paragraph.

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[Raduga]

Wirajaya Ausindo 2019

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why does our tactical helmet and vest are not painted with green color rather than black ?