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[katarabhumi]

It should have been more 4 and by the way give more detail about ship which you are going to build in Indonesia

There will be more... we won't stop at 2. This is a learning project for PAL, like Makassar LPD project several years ago with Daesun Korea.. only this time is with Damen Netherland. Once we get the experience and the technology needed we will be able to design and manufacturing frigates on our own.

Just 2 for now because PAL is busy building other ships as well.. remember my earlier post bout 7 LST?.
PAL is also now in a learning project with DSME of SK to build submarine.

 

[Zarvan]

There will be more... we won't stop at 2. This is a learning project for PAL, like Makassar LPD project several years ago with Daesun Korea.. only this time is with Damen Netherland. Once we get the experience and the technology needed we will be able to design and manufacturing frigates on our own.

Just 2 for now because PAL is busy building other ships as well.. remember my earlier post bout 7 LST?.
PAL is also now in a learning project with DSME of SK to build submarine.

Tell more about the destroyer or locally which is called Frigate you are building

 

[katarabhumi]

Tell more about the destroyer or locally which is called Frigate you are building

I don't know what is more that you want to know.. it's all there in @Reashot Xigwin 's last posts.

I don't think I can give you more detail than that since I'm not in Indonesian Navy nor work for PAL.

 

[katarabhumi]

Indonesia interested in Russian submarine "Amur-1650"

Indonesian Navy Command has expressed interest in Russian diesel-electric submarines "Amur-1650". On this, as reported by ITAR-TASS news agency, said the director of "Rosoboronexport" roving Nicholas Dimidyuk. According to him, the Indonesian delegation announced the interest during the inspection of the Russian exposition at the international exhibition DSA-2014 in Malaysia.

However, the plan of Indonesian military to begin negotiations on the purchase still not specified. Earlier, the Ministry of Defence of Indonesia led negotiations with Russia on the purchase of second-hand submarines of Project 877 "Halibut". Russia has offered these ships to Indonesian military in August 2013. Later Indonesia declared its refusal to purchase them as military did not satisfy with their technical condition.

If Indonesia decides to purchase new Russian submarines, they will be supplied as part of an export credit of one billion dollars, issued by Moscow and Jakarta in 2007. On the resources of the loan, Indonesia planned to buy Mi-17, Mi-35M, infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3F and submarines of Project 877 "Halibut". Part of the equipment was purchased by Jakarta, but the contract for the supply of submarines has not been signed.

Lenta.ru: Наука и техника: Оружие: Индонезия заинтересовалась российскими подлодками «Амур-1650»

 

[flamer84]

Damen Lays Keel for Indonesian Naval Frigate
MarineLink.com
Thursday, April 17, 2014


Photo: Damen
In accordance with the agreed planning in the contract for the construction of a Damen SIGMA Frigate for the Indonesian Navy, the keel laying ceremony has taken place on April 16, 2014 at the PT PAL (Persero) Shipyard in Surabaya, Indonesia. The construction of the four modules that are going to be built at PT PAL (Persero) Shipyard Surabaya and the two modules that are being built in Vlissingen, are proceeding according to schedule.

The construction and testing of the modules simultaneously at two different locations signifies the unique Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding modular building strategy that is unparalleled in the naval shipbuilding industry. All modules will be assembled at the PT PAL (Persero) Shipyard under main contractorship of Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding followed by Harbor Acceptance Tests and Sea Acceptance Trials.

Furthermore, the progress for the second SIGMA 10514 PKR frigate, for which the contract was signed February 14, 2013, proceeds as scheduled and construction is foreseen to start in approximately three months.

The acquisition of the SIGMA 10514 PKR Frigate is part of the further modernization and expansion of the Indonesian Navy, TNI-AL. The main missions and tasks of the SIGMA PKR 10514 will be in the domains of naval warfare as well as Maritime Security missions and tasks. Also, the ship may be used for humanitarian support tasks.

The main characteristics of the SIGMA PKR 10514 Frigate are:
Length: 105 meters
Width: 14 meters
Displacement: approx. 2,400 tons
Propulsion: Combined Diesel and Electric (CODOE)
Crew: 100 + 20 spare accommodation
Combat System:
•Extensive Air, Surface and Sub-Surface Surveillance capabilities.
•Guided missile Systems and gun systems for Anti-Air Warfare and Anti-Surface Warfare
•Torpedo systems for Anti-Submarine Warfare
•Active and Passive Electronic Warfare Systems
•Tacticos Combat Management System
•Also, the SIGMA PKR 10514 Frigate will be able to carry an organic helicopter.
damen.com

Damen Lays Keel for Indonesian Naval

Hello,any more info on this frigate's capabilities?,as I am very interested in it . How many Anti Ship Missiles and what kind ? How many AA missiles and what kind ? Any CIWS ? Price per unit ?

Thanks in advance.

@Penguin

 

[nufix]

Hello,any more info on this frigate's capabilities?,as I am very interested in it . How many Anti Ship Missiles and what kind ? How many AA missiles and what kind ? Any CIWS ? Price per unit ?

Thanks in advance.

@Penguin

Price stands at USD 220 mil

Guns:
» 1x Oto Melara 76/62 Compact 76mm Main Gun
» 1x Rheinmetall Millenium 35mm CIWS
Missiles:
» 8x MBDA MM40 Blk III antiship missiles
» 12x MBDA MICA VL surface to air missiles (in VLS)
Torpedoes:
» 2x Triple torpedo launchers

The rest:

SIGMA 10514 PKR Frigate Indonesia Indonesian Navy TNI AL Perusak Kawal Rudal PT PAL DSNS DAMEN Schelde Naval Shipbuilding KRI datasheet pictures photos video specifications

 

[flamer84]

Price stands at USD 220 mil

Guns:
» 1x Oto Melara 76/62 Compact 76mm Main Gun
» 1x Rheinmetall Millenium 35mm CIWS
Missiles:
» 8x MBDA MM40 Blk III antiship missiles
» 12x MBDA MICA VL surface to air missiles (in VLS)
Torpedoes:
» 2x Triple torpedo launchers

The rest:

SIGMA 10514 PKR Frigate Indonesia Indonesian Navy TNI AL Perusak Kawal Rudal PT PAL DSNS DAMEN Schelde Naval Shipbuilding KRI datasheet pictures photos video specifications

Thanks man !

220million $,that's 160 million Euros,make it 200 if they would go with the Aster 15 instead of MICA .........excellent deal!

 

[Harkness]

Indonesian SIGMA PKR 10514 video

 

[MarveL]

Indonesian SIGMA PKR 10514 video

Met gabung bro, would you introduce yourself here before posting.... Members Introduction

thx.

 

[Harkness]

Met gabung bro, would you introduce yourself here before posting.... Members Introduction

thx.

thanks for the welcome bro
okay will do right away

 

[Indos]

thanks for the welcome bro
okay will do right away

Welcome, very good video posted there, we need more human power here....@Zarvan, the video is fit with your previous questioned brother.

 

[aliaselin]

Price stands at USD 220 mil

Guns:
» 1x Oto Melara 76/62 Compact 76mm Main Gun
» 1x Rheinmetall Millenium 35mm CIWS
Missiles:
» 8x MBDA MM40 Blk III antiship missiles
» 12x MBDA MICA VL surface to air missiles (in VLS)
Torpedoes:
» 2x Triple torpedo launchers

The rest:

SIGMA 10514 PKR Frigate Indonesia Indonesian Navy TNI AL Perusak Kawal Rudal PT PAL DSNS DAMEN Schelde Naval Shipbuilding KRI datasheet pictures photos video specifications

If this specification is right, it proves how wrongly for Malaysia to choose Gowind but not Sigma.

 

[nufix]

If this specification is right, it proves how wrongly for Malaysia to choose Gowind but not Sigma.

I think the Gowind is already expensive since the beginning, Malaysia had to pay for the developement cost. In comparison to SIGMA, SIGMA PKR 10514 is a developement of an already existing module which Indonesia has already used with its SIGMA corvette. Not to mention that Gowind has bigger SAM allocation and faster cruising speed with the same operational range, i think that too contributes to the price difference between the two similar ships.

 

[aliaselin]

I think the Gowind is already expensive since the beginning, Malaysia had to pay for the developement cost. In comparison to SIGMA, SIGMA PKR 10514 is a developement of an already existing module which Indonesia has already used with its SIGMA corvette. Not to mention that Gowind has bigger SAM allocation and faster cruising speed with the same operational range, i think that too contributes to the price difference between the two similar ships.

Other reasons may be anything from France is damnly expensive and the Malaysia officer picks up more from every project.

 

[Nike]

Thanks man !

220million $,that's 160 million Euros,make it 200 if they would go with the Aster 15 instead of MICA .........excellent deal!

That's deal also include license fees for Indonesian side to build up to 20 ships, SIGMA class is apparently has been designed for Indonesian custom and need and the discussion for this project has been started since 1996. But the project must to be halted because of Asia Economic Crisis back in 1998. Thus SIGMA project starting to gain the momentum since 2004 and resulted in the deal for Damen to build 4 units Sigma Class Corvette for Indonesian Navy in 2006.