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Singapore has the best percentage and this should be the case world wide because as long as you are not secure and ready to kick butts of your enemies than you don't have economic security as well as peace and power are first steps towards becoming economic power
 
Singapore has the best percentage and this should be the case world wide because as long as you are not secure and ready to kick butts of your enemies than you don't have economic security as well as peace and power are first steps towards becoming economic power
Singapore achieve established economy first before building its military.

And despite the military status as nuclear country and have hundreds of fighter jets, Pakistan still the world's lowest tax collection rates. Less than 1 million of your country population paying tax @Zarvan
How can you preach us that military power is the first steps in becoming economic power when your government cannot even collect taxes from your own people?

Bombs, Protests, Blackouts Fail to Cripple Pakistan Economy - Bloomberg Business
 
Singapore achieve established economy first before building its military.

And despite the military status as nuclear country and have hundreds of fighter jets, Pakistan still the world's lowest tax collection rates. Less than 1 million of your country population paying tax @Zarvan
How can you preach us that military power is the first steps in becoming economic power when your government cannot even collect taxes from your own people?

Bombs, Protests, Blackouts Fail to Cripple Pakistan Economy - Bloomberg Business
Yes still we can progress because hardly any one would dare to attack us we just need to control internal corruption and mismanagement
 
Yes still we can progress because hardly any one would dare to attack us we just need to control internal corruption and mismanagement

Taliban still attack you and disrupt your economic development, even Zarb E Zarb still going on right now
 
It's quite clear that Indonesia and Pakistan have choose different path and direction to manage their country and the way to achieve their respective goals. There's no use pushing one's view over another. Sometimes we feels that we know better than the others, when the truth is maybe the complete opposite. :coffee:
 
credit to Skyshieldtwo at Kaskus.co.id, an Indonesian Army Helicopter group patrolling over Jakarta Business District Center to ensure AAC overall security

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Singapore has the best percentage and this should be the case world wide because as long as you are not secure and ready to kick butts of your enemies than you don't have economic security as well as peace and power are first steps towards becoming economic power

He,he, we are smarter than them. I am more interested for us to focus on our defense industry instead while keep increasing defense budged step by step.

An Indonesian Defense Revolution Under Jokowi?
Indonesia’s new president is determined to transform its defense industry.

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By Prashanth Parameswaran
January 30, 2015
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Listen to Indonesian President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo, and you would think the country is on the brink of nothing less than a defense revolution.

At a meeting late last month at the Presidential Office attended by top ministers and advisers, Jokowi outlined the main priorities for the country’s defense policy. What stood out most was his determination to revolutionize the country’s defense industry, partly in order to create the self-reliance in military equipment that Indonesia has often talked about. That is not surprising, considering that the defense industry is the foundation upon which several of his foreign policy goals – including a global maritime fulcrum – are built.

In his remarks, Jokowi did lay out some specific guidelines might help Indonesia reach defense self-reliance. For instance, Indonesia will require every weapons purchase to include the transfer of technology for Indonesia’s state-owned strategic industries – including shipbuilder PT PAL, weapons and land systems maker PT PINDAD, and aircraft maker PT DI. Jokowi is already moving to prop up some of these state-owned defense entities. In early January, he announced $55 million in government funding to boost PT PINDAD following a visit to its facilities.

But others were more strategic considerations for the defense industry more generally. He said Indonesia should stop its habit of chasing after foreign weapon systems without making efforts to boost domestic production. He also added that the focus should be on building integrated defense equipment systems. Predictably, he also found a way to work in his global maritime fulcrum doctrine, emphasizing that the country’s shipbuilding industry should be able to produce non-military equipment as well like commercial ships. The whole point of this defense transformation, Jokowi stressed, is to ensure the industry is “developed for long term use, not only for one or two years.”

Of course, in many cases Jokowi is either building on previous plans or following long-sought goals. The ideal of self-reliance, for example, is reflected in the 2012 Law on Defense Industry, and is central to realizing the country’s goal of developing the Indonesian military (TNI) into a minimum essential force by 2024. Incremental progress had already been made during the Yudhoyono years on several strategic projects that involve technology transfer and enhancing local capabilities. The problem of lack of integration in defense systems has also been well-documented. To get a sense of the problem, as I have noted elsewhere, Indonesia was operating 173 different weapons systems from 17 different countries by 2006 according to one estimate.

The inherent constraints to achieving this revolution in Indonesia’s defense industry are also clear. There are a long list of them, but a couple are worth noting here. Funding is one concern. Despite recent increases, Indonesia’s military budget has never constituted more than one percent of its GDP, unlike some of its neighbors like Malaysia or Vietnam. Jokowi says he plans on raising the budget to 1.5 percent of GDP, but it is unclear whether he will achieve it, and how much of that budget will be devoted to goals like providing support for state-owned defense entities as opposed to personnel costs, which form the bulk of the budget.

Self-reliance is also an ideal that may be difficult to achieve in practice. TNI chief General Moeldoko – no stranger to controversy – insisted earlier this month that the country’s military still needs foreign-made weapons. Quite apart from Moeldoko’s own admission that he “salivated” looking at other nations’ equipment during search and rescue operations for AirAsia flight QZ8501, building a sophisticated defense industry at home takes time. Given Indonesia’s urgent need to accomplish basic tasks effectively – such as policing its own waters – Jakarta may find itself relying far more on competitive foreign weapons systems than Jokowi would like for now, even as it has its eye on developing a strong and capable defense industry in the future.

An Indonesian Defense Revolution Under Jokowi? | The Diplomat
 
He,he, we are smarter than them. I am more interested for us to focus on our defense industry instead while keep increasing defense budged step by step.

An Indonesian Defense Revolution Under Jokowi?
Indonesia’s new president is determined to transform its defense industry.

thediplomat_2015-01-27_18-57-02-36x36.jpg

By Prashanth Parameswaran
January 30, 2015
thediplomat_2015-01-29_20-07-54-386x257.jpg


Listen to Indonesian President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo, and you would think the country is on the brink of nothing less than a defense revolution.

At a meeting late last month at the Presidential Office attended by top ministers and advisers, Jokowi outlined the main priorities for the country’s defense policy. What stood out most was his determination to revolutionize the country’s defense industry, partly in order to create the self-reliance in military equipment that Indonesia has often talked about. That is not surprising, considering that the defense industry is the foundation upon which several of his foreign policy goals – including a global maritime fulcrum – are built.

In his remarks, Jokowi did lay out some specific guidelines might help Indonesia reach defense self-reliance. For instance, Indonesia will require every weapons purchase to include the transfer of technology for Indonesia’s state-owned strategic industries – including shipbuilder PT PAL, weapons and land systems maker PT PINDAD, and aircraft maker PT DI. Jokowi is already moving to prop up some of these state-owned defense entities. In early January, he announced $55 million in government funding to boost PT PINDAD following a visit to its facilities.

But others were more strategic considerations for the defense industry more generally. He said Indonesia should stop its habit of chasing after foreign weapon systems without making efforts to boost domestic production. He also added that the focus should be on building integrated defense equipment systems. Predictably, he also found a way to work in his global maritime fulcrum doctrine, emphasizing that the country’s shipbuilding industry should be able to produce non-military equipment as well like commercial ships. The whole point of this defense transformation, Jokowi stressed, is to ensure the industry is “developed for long term use, not only for one or two years.”

Of course, in many cases Jokowi is either building on previous plans or following long-sought goals. The ideal of self-reliance, for example, is reflected in the 2012 Law on Defense Industry, and is central to realizing the country’s goal of developing the Indonesian military (TNI) into a minimum essential force by 2024. Incremental progress had already been made during the Yudhoyono years on several strategic projects that involve technology transfer and enhancing local capabilities. The problem of lack of integration in defense systems has also been well-documented. To get a sense of the problem, as I have noted elsewhere, Indonesia was operating 173 different weapons systems from 17 different countries by 2006 according to one estimate.

The inherent constraints to achieving this revolution in Indonesia’s defense industry are also clear. There are a long list of them, but a couple are worth noting here. Funding is one concern. Despite recent increases, Indonesia’s military budget has never constituted more than one percent of its GDP, unlike some of its neighbors like Malaysia or Vietnam. Jokowi says he plans on raising the budget to 1.5 percent of GDP, but it is unclear whether he will achieve it, and how much of that budget will be devoted to goals like providing support for state-owned defense entities as opposed to personnel costs, which form the bulk of the budget.

Self-reliance is also an ideal that may be difficult to achieve in practice. TNI chief General Moeldoko – no stranger to controversy – insisted earlier this month that the country’s military still needs foreign-made weapons. Quite apart from Moeldoko’s own admission that he “salivated” looking at other nations’ equipment during search and rescue operations for AirAsia flight QZ8501, building a sophisticated defense industry at home takes time. Given Indonesia’s urgent need to accomplish basic tasks effectively – such as policing its own waters – Jakarta may find itself relying far more on competitive foreign weapons systems than Jokowi would like for now, even as it has its eye on developing a strong and capable defense industry in the future.

An Indonesian Defense Revolution Under Jokowi? | The Diplomat
No you are not your pace will only make sure that countries around you are far ahead of you
 
No you are not your pace will only make sure that countries around you are far ahead of you

The competition is not only how many you can have, but also how many and how good you can build..................

Just let Singapore feel satisfied with that current situation.........

Our defense industry can be used to industrialize our economy more, making machine and others. PT Dirgantara Today is trying to enter civilian aircraft market for example after focusing on military ones. PT Nusantara Turbine ( PT Dirgantara subsidiary) is also making turbine for our industry beside repairing aircraft engine. PT PAL can make oil tankers beside warship. We need to make them become giant tech company like Samsung, Mitsubishi, etc
 
No you are not your pace will only make sure that countries around you are far ahead of you

far ahead like what?

just looking at United States and Imperial Japan comparison in military strength before WW II, the Japanese is outnumber United States at almost every items, but the result of the great war is dictates otherwise. Country with more Industrial, technology and economic prowess will prevail. Let me said this, Indonesia is pursuing more technological know how and basic Industrial and technology core to support our military growth and development. We are doing it in a more strategical level of thinking, not only based on mere whim and impulse.
 
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Field trial ... For the first time a panoramic night vision arrived.
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Final inspection and acceptance test of trijicon acog scopes.
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First two prototypes of Turkish-Indonesian medium tank should be unveiled in 2015
Posted by Maki Catama on 1:16 AM
ANKARA / JAKARTA, -- During a work visit of Indonesian parliamentarians to PT Pindad (Persero) regarding PT Pindad (Persero) cooperation with Turkey for the medium tank, Major General TNI (Purn.) Supiadin Aries Saputra representing his group said: “

This visit was held to gather information and its specifics regarding the development of defense cooperation between Pindad and Turkey, as well as the response from Ministry of Defense and TNI to support the implementation of the cooperation”.

the President Director of PT Pindad (Persero) Silmy Karim, in response to the regarding matter, said that this joint project of Indonesia-Turkey regarding the medium tank had been initiated since long ago, though Pindad analytical skill continued. “This cooperation has been initiated since long ago by the Government, in fact the signing has been done since year 2013.

In manufacturing and testing Pindad is ready. Although, there are some technologies that still need the assistance from partners such as turret and firing control system, navigation system, and self-defense system. We want to make a medium tank with the perfection on the mobility, fire powder, and survivability,” he added.

The schedule to processing project had been made. If nothing went wrong, in 2015, one unit of prototype will be made in Indonesia and another one in Turkey. The communication has been maintained intensively between Ministry of defense of Indonesia and SavunmaSanayiiMustesarligi (SSM), Ministry of Defense of Turkey.

“For the progress of B2B, some of workers of Pindad have been sent to learn the welding technique of aluminum armored that is used as the raw material of the medium tank,” said President Director of Pindad Silmy Karim. He also admitted he felt optimistic that this project would run well in the future. “We are optimistic that medium tank program will run well because the industrial technology capacity of Indonesia and Turkey are good enough,” he closed.
 
i think i have lost lot of my post here

credit to rezkypanhard @instagram, pics taken during Asian African Conference near Bandung Grand Mosque

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The Visit of GKSCSC Singapore to PT Pindad

Posted: Selasa, 14 Apr 2015
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Seventy- four students of Goh Keng Swee Command and Staff College (GKSCSC) Singapore visited PT Pindad (Persero) on 14 April 2015. The group led by Colonel Ng Wai Kit was welcomed by the Head of Marketing and Business Development Division, Mr. WIdjajanto, at the Auditorium of Directorate Building of PT Pindad (Persero), Bandung.

Mr. Widjajanto, in his welcoming speech, mentioned about the good cooperation between PT Pindad (Persero) and one of Singapore companies in defense industry, ST Kinetic Engineering. The good cooperation between both companies will be continued and maintained. “When I visited Singapore several months ago, we wanted to sustain our cooperation with ST Kinetic Engineering, one that comes up is by having joint production,” he added.

Furthermore, he also mentioned that the defense industry in both countries has produced several defense and security products with high quality to operate. “We admire Terrex and Light Strike Vehicle produced by Singapore, whereas Singapore is Pindad biggest market in ASEAN by orders for ammunition and other Pindad products. Hopefully, our discussion today will strengthen our cooperation with mutual benefits,” he said.

Colonel Ng Wai Kit said that the cooperation between Indonesia and Singapore has been established since long ago. “Indonesia and Singapore have good relationship for years. In defense industry, Armed Forces, Armies, as well as the relationship between the countries. I hope this visit will bring this relationship to a better place and we hope we can learn many things from Pindad,” he said.

He also mentioned that there are several defense issues that will be challenges in the near future and the cooperation between both countries will be needed. “Many things that happen nowencourage Indonesia and Singapore to have to cooperate, such as terrorism, piracy, and recovery from natural disaster. Some technologies adapted by both countries are expected to be advantageous for Indonesia and Singapore,” said Ng Wai Kit as he closed his speech.

After all the activities in Auditorium ended, the group visited one of the armored and tactical vehicle production facilities in Special Vehicle Division. Hereinafter, the group will visit Sekolah Staf dan Komando Angkatan Udara (Sesko AU). (Anggia)

PT. Pindad (Persero) - Kunjungan GKSCSC Singapura ke PT Pindad
 

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