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[Chestnut]

Not to mention there's no pressing need for a helicopter of that magnitude. If maritime capability was high on their list they could always go for the Osprey. If we commit to the KC-45, Wedgetail, and Poseidon then you can imagine Boeing will give your a good price for the Ospreys.

God bless bulk buys.

 

[NEKONEKO]

With foldable blade this thing can really do its job well for our makassar fleet/SSV

Our LPD can only support medium sized helicopters not heavy-lift cargo helicopters such as CH 53K.

Not to mention there's no pressing need for a helicopter of that magnitude. If maritime capability was high on their list they could always go for the Osprey. If we commit to the KC-45, Wedgetail, and Poseidon then you can imagine Boeing will give your a good price for the Ospreys.

God bless bulk buys.

But why osprey? If for heavy cargo just choose chinook. Maritime capability? But we don't have ship such as LHD yet

 

[Chestnut]

Our LPD can only support medium sized helicopters not heavy-lift cargo helicopters such as CH 53K.


But why osprey? If for heavy cargo just choose chinook. Maritime capability? But we don't have ship such as LHD yet

The US operates their Ospreys from the San-Antonio class as well as their Wasp/America class. You don't specifically need an LHD to operate them.

 

[Ruhnama]

Still cant forget the news that have a caption like this
"anoa alutsista andalan dunia"

Senapan SPR 2 mampu menembus baja tank

Btw how much money spent just for a parade?

 

[NEKONEKO]

The US operates their Ospreys from the San-Antonio class as well as their Wasp/America class. You don't specifically need an LHD to operate them.

Too heavy and a little bit too big.

V22
Dimensions (spread configuration) Length: 17.47m Width: 25.76m Height: 6.86m.
Dimensions (folded configuration) Length: 19.05m Width: 5.61m Height: 5.47m.
Empty weight : 15 t.

KRI Makassar, beam : 22 m.
UH 60 aja cuman 6 ton-an.

 

[Kansel]

The US operates their Ospreys from the San-Antonio class as well as their Wasp/America class. You don't specifically need an LHD to operate them.

Not to mention there's no pressing need for a helicopter of that magnitude. If maritime capability was high on their list they could always go for the Osprey. If we commit to the KC-45, Wedgetail, and Poseidon then you can imagine Boeing will give your a good price for the Ospreys.

God bless bulk buys.

Which branch getting the P-8? Cause if im not wrong we're dead set on getting P-8 but airforce and navy debating about it

 

[Chestnut]

Too heavy and a little bit too big.

V22
Dimensions (spread configuration) Length: 17.47m Width: 25.76m Height: 6.86m.
Dimensions (folded configuration) Length: 19.05m Width: 5.61m Height: 5.47m.
Empty weight : 15 t.

KRI Makassar, beam : 22 m.
UH 60 aja cuman 6 ton-an.

Well that settles it then. Arguably you can justify using them for their range but it's not really much of an improvement over the Chooks.

Which branch getting the P-8? Cause if im not wrong we're dead set on getting P-8 but airforce and navy debating about it

I don't think Boeing really cares as long as we commit on purchasing it. IMO Naval Aviation should be the one operating it as they already operate the 212/235's but as with every other thing in the TNI it has to be a bragging rights circlejerk.

 

[NEKONEKO]

Well that settles it then. Arguably you can justify using them for their range but it's not really much of an improvement over the Chooks.

Osprey got the speed.

 

[Kansel]

.l
I don't think Boeing really cares as long as we commit on purchasing it. IMO Naval Aviation should be the one operating it as they already operate the 212/235's but as with every other thing in the TNI it has to be a bragging rights circlejerk.

Well for me airforce is much better they experienced on operating jet engine whil navy dont. And no need to build new infrastructure put it on sq 5 and job's done.

Kalau gasalah tugasnya AU juga buat ngawasin udara,laut&darat so plane like poseidon does matter for them

 

[Chestnut]

At the cost of it being costlier to operate.

At the cost of it being costlier to operate.

 

[Gundala]

Our LPD can only support medium sized helicopters not heavy-lift cargo helicopters such as CH 53K

Only medium sized? Oh well...

I don't think Boeing really cares as long as we commit on purchasing it. IMO Naval Aviation should be the one operating it as they already operate the 212/235's but as with every other thing in the TNI it has to be a bragging rights circlejerk.

Agree, should be naval aviation tho navy should really improve their aviation infrastructure and human resource. Something thats prolly going to cost them huge amount of budget, regardless it has to be done soon or later. About braggin rights? I can only

 

[Kansel]

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Lantamal XIII Bangun Dermaga di Tarakan Timur

28 Oktober 2019



Pembangunan dermaga di Mamburungan Tarakan (photo TNI AL)

Safari Logistik Waaslog Kasal dan Kadisfaslanal Tinjau Pembangunan Dermaga TNI AL Mamburungan

Tarakan – Kamis (24/10/2019) Pangkalan Utama TNI AL XIII (Lantamal XIII) yang baru berusia 4 tahun terus melakukan perbenahan diri dengan melakukan membangun sarana dan prasarana sebagai penunjang tugas pokok. Salah satu tugas pokok tersebut yaitu melaksanakan pelayanan untuk mendukung unsur operasi TNI AL.

Salah satu pendukung unsur operasi TNI AL adalah dermaga, saat ini Lantamal XIII Tarakan sedang melaksanakan pembangunan renovasi dan pelebaran dermaga yang berada di Mamburungan Jl. Sei Ngingitan Kelurahan Mamburungan Tarakan Timur Provinsi Kalimantan Utara. Proses pembangunan dermaga tersebut kemarin (23/10) ditinjau secara langsung oleh Wakil Aslog Kasal.

Kunjungan Waaslog Kasal dan Rombongan ke Lantamal XIII Tarakan merupakan rangkaian kegiatan Safari Logistik sekaligus meninjau sarana dan prasarana yang ada di Lantamal XIII. Kedatangan Waaslog Kasal disambut oleh Wadan Lantamal XIII Kolonel Marinir Ali Bahar Saragih, S.E. di Loby Mako Lantamal XIII.

Rombongan tersebut terdiri dari Waaslog Kasal Laksaman Pertama TNI Sudarmoko, Kadisfaslanal Laksamana Pertama TNI Puguh Santoso, Kolonel Laut (T) Agus Santoso, Letkol Laut (T) Ichwan, Letkol Laut (S) Ir. Yudhi, Letkol Laut (T) Agus Wahyudi, Mayor (KH) Agung Nova W, Kapten Laut (KH) Aprilian Ismana, S.T. dan Sertu PDK Nurma Aji.



Mamburungan, Tarakan Timur (image : Google Maps)

Pada awal kegiatan beliau di Mako Lantamal XIII Mamburungan kemarin (23/10) sekitar pukul 14.00 Wita dilaksanakan acara pendalaman materi logistik yang diselenggarakan di ruang rapat Lantamal XIII yang di hadiri oleh Wadan Lantamal XIII, para Asisten Danlantamal XIII, Dan Satrol Lantamal XIII dan para Kasatker Lantamal XIII yang diisi dengan Paparan Kewasgiatan Logistik Lantamal XIII dan dilanjutkan dengan tanya jawab.

Setelah pendalaman materi Waaslog Kasal langsung meninjau proses pembangunan renovasi dan pelebaran dermaga yang sedang berlangsung. Renovasi dan pelebaran dermaga tersebut apabila sudah selesai, nantinya akan dapat dirapati oleh unsur unsur KRI melaksanakan operasi di wilayah perbatasan laut Indonesia-Malaysia di wilayah kerja Lantamal XIII yang lebih besar serta menampung KRI yang lebih banyak.

Selain peninjauan hal tersebut di atas, Waaslog Kasal beserta rombongan hari ini (24/10) juga melaksanakan kunjungan ke PT Kayan Juata guna peninjauan lapangan fasilitas dan Workshop Dock serta meninjau perbaikan KAL Simaya oleh CV Dharma Persada di Juata Tarakan Utara. Selanjutnya Waaslog Kasal dan rombongan meninjau fisik pembangunan Mako Yonmarhanlan XIII dan Rumah Dinas Yonmarhanlan XIII yang berada di Kelurahan Amal Tarakan Timur.

(TNI AL)

I don't think Boeing really cares as long as we commit on purchasing it.

So does we committed yet on purchasing it? It's the point right there

 

[Kansel]

Senin 28 Oktober 2019, 10:44 WIB

Tak Pimpin Upacara Sumpah Pemuda di Kemhan, Prabowo ke Unhan
Haris Fadhil - detikNews

Prabowo Subianto (Foto: Grandyos Zafna-detikcom)
Jakarta - Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan) Prabowo Subianto tak terlihat memimpin upacara peringatan Sumpah Pemuda di Kementerian Pertahanan (Kemhan). Ke mana Prabowo?

"Beliau memberikan pengarahan di Unhan (Universitas Pertahanan)," kata Kapuskom Publik Kemhan Brigjen Totok Sugiarto, Senin (28/10/2019).

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Totok tak menjelaskan detail pengarahan apa yang disampaikan Prabowo di Unhan. Wamenhan Sakti Wahyu Trenggono juga ikut dengan Prabowo.

Sementara itu, Upacara peringatan Sumpah Pemuda di Kemhan dipimpin Kepala Badan Strategis Instalasi Perhanan (Kabainstrahan) Mayjen TNI Bambang Kusharto. Dalam kesempatan tersebut, Bambang mengingatkan pentingnya persatuan.

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Rencana kehadiran Prabowo ke Unhan itu sempat disampaikan Wamenhan Trenggono pada Jumat (25/10). Saat itu, Trenggono mengatakan dirinya diajak Prabowo ke Unhan untuk berdiskusi

"Lalu hari senin beliau (Prabowo) ngajak saya ke Unhan. Mungkin setelah di sana saya akan diskusi," ujar Trenggono.

Since Prabowo got elected as MoD. Everything related to MoD is a trending topics lmao

 

[katarabhumi]

Looking at the bad human rights record of our new Minister of Defense, how is our chances in acquiring "western toys"?.. Would it be any hindrance?