Indonesia Defence Forum

[ardezzo]

BT 3 F design input is come from Indonesia Marines Corps, look at air conditioner equipment and several fast dropping fitur on the vehicles, look optimized for indonesia marines corps

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with this design, it will be difficult for the soldiers to leave the vehicle once it turn upside down

 

[barjo]

with this design, it will be difficult for the soldiers to leave the vehicle once it turn upside down

there're also con in ramp door design, soldier easly trap when the vehicle in dangerous sinking situation also difficult to embark with extra equipment, cannot embark in midle of water and mud due the water line is in the upper hull door

 

[radialv]

there're also con in ramp door design, soldier easly trap when the vehicle in dangerous sinking situation also difficult to embark with extra equipment, cannot embark in midle of water and mud due the water line is in the upper hull door

however, buying combat equipment that has not been used by Russia is a risky decission, especially regarding maintenance and supply of spare parts

Demi Program BBM Satu Harga, Pertamina Beli Airbus A 400
Yanurisa Ananta , CNBC Indonesia
NEWS

22 April 2019 12:49

Foto: Airbus A400M (REUTERS/Pascal Rossignol)
Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia- Demi menjalankan tugas mendistribusikan bahan bakar minyak (BBM) secara merata hingga ke pelosok Indonesia, Pertamina diketahui siap membeli pesawat Airbus A 400.

Hal itu diungkapkan oleh Deputi Bidang Usaha Jasa Keuangan, Jasa Survei dan Jasa Konsultasi Kementerian Badan Usaha Milik Negara (BUMN) Gatot Trihargo.

"Pertamina juga masih punya tugas untuk BBM satu harga di Papua, sehingga ke depan Pertamina juga akan beli Airbus A 400," ujar Gatot, saat dijumpai di Kementerian BUMN, Senin ((22/4/2019).

Pembelian Airbus ini,nantinya akan dilakukan oleh Pertamina dan kolaborasi konsorsium. Gatot menjelaskan targetnya pesawat ini akan dibeli dalam waktu dekat.

"Tahun ini tapi dapatnya tidak tahu tahun ini atau tahun depan,"kata Gatot. Namun dipastikan pesawat untuk kargo itu akan dikelola oleh Pelita Air.

Gatot membahas rencana pembelian pesawat ini seusai acara akuisisi 30% saham PT Permodalan Nasional Madani (Persero) oleh PT Bank Tabungan Negara (Persero) Tbk di Kementerian BUMN, Jakarta, Senin (22/4/2019). (gus/gus)

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...am-bbm-satu-harga-pertamina-beli-airbus-a-400

Indonesian Oil State Company will buy A400 this year

Is this part of the 2 previous units ordered by one of the state companies

 

[striver44]

however, buying combat equipment that has not been used by Russia is a risky decission, especially regarding maintenance and supply of spare parts


Is this part of the 2 previous units ordered by one of the state companies

Bt 3f shared many automotive components with bmp3's. Btw russian and chinese product is not best known for reliability and after service

 

[mandala]

Scale model of the BT-3F. Credit to Ex-Models.

More pics: https://ex-models.com/realizovannye-proekty/voennaya-tehnika/bronetransporter-bt-3f/

 

[Nike]

Bt 3f shared many automotive components with bmp3's. Btw russian and chinese product is not best known for reliability and after service

Basic APC or IFV Ground vehicles is much easier to be maintained, just look at PT pindad efforts to modified and refit AMX 13 or BTR 50 we had. As long as you got plate steel, mills and cnc axis tooling, some crane and welder stuff along with engines block you can maintain them. Unless it is complex vehicles in class of MBT like Abrams or Leopard 2 you will get it done with advanced auto industry.

with this design, it will be difficult for the soldiers to leave the vehicle once it turn upside down

They got back or rear door

 

[nametag]

Demi Program BBM Satu Harga, Pertamina Beli Airbus A 400
Yanurisa Ananta , CNBC Indonesia
NEWS

22 April 2019 12:49

Foto: Airbus A400M (REUTERS/Pascal Rossignol)
Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia- Demi menjalankan tugas mendistribusikan bahan bakar minyak (BBM) secara merata hingga ke pelosok Indonesia, Pertamina diketahui siap membeli pesawat Airbus A 400.

Hal itu diungkapkan oleh Deputi Bidang Usaha Jasa Keuangan, Jasa Survei dan Jasa Konsultasi Kementerian Badan Usaha Milik Negara (BUMN) Gatot Trihargo.

"Pertamina juga masih punya tugas untuk BBM satu harga di Papua, sehingga ke depan Pertamina juga akan beli Airbus A 400," ujar Gatot, saat dijumpai di Kementerian BUMN, Senin ((22/4/2019).

Pembelian Airbus ini,nantinya akan dilakukan oleh Pertamina dan kolaborasi konsorsium. Gatot menjelaskan targetnya pesawat ini akan dibeli dalam waktu dekat.

"Tahun ini tapi dapatnya tidak tahu tahun ini atau tahun depan,"kata Gatot. Namun dipastikan pesawat untuk kargo itu akan dikelola oleh Pelita Air.

Gatot membahas rencana pembelian pesawat ini seusai acara akuisisi 30% saham PT Permodalan Nasional Madani (Persero) oleh PT Bank Tabungan Negara (Persero) Tbk di Kementerian BUMN, Jakarta, Senin (22/4/2019). (gus/gus)

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/...am-bbm-satu-harga-pertamina-beli-airbus-a-400

Indonesian Oil State Company will buy A400 this year

doesn't make any sense, if they really wanted to use it to distribute fuel especially in papua they should buy smaller aircraft. using A400 will only increase the cost. with pricetag of $ 2 billion USD for only 4-5 A400 it's cheaper and better to buy 2 skuadron of C130J, or 3 skuadron CN 235, or dozens of N219. It's more suitable and feasible for distributing fuel, not to mention it has far lower operational cost. Or better yet built pipping network

 

[Nike]

doesn't make any sense, if they really wanted to use it to distribute fuel especially in papua they should buy smaller aircraft. using A400 will only increase the cost. with pricetag of $ 2 billion USD for only 4-5 A400 it's cheaper and better to buy 2 skuadron of C130J, or 3 skuadron CN 235, or dozens of N219. It's more suitable and feasible for distributing fuel, not to mention it has far lower operational cost. Or better yet built pipping network

It will much support the Air force compared to Pelita itself

 

[Nike]

 

[nametag]

It will much support the Air force compared to Pelita itself

Then why not give the money or budget to TNI instead of giving $2 billion as a PMN to BUMN. The defense ministry can acquire a lot of asset with so much money

 

[barjo]

however, buying combat equipment that has not been used by Russia is a risky decission, especially regarding maintenance and supply of spare parts


Is this part of the 2 previous units ordered by one of the state companies

pt76 and btr 50 is still being used only engine repowering be done, APC like karoseri industri as long as we can "ketok magic" the body and modified the engine room for swap is easy, steel plate and alumunium press machine is all we need, for turret and electronic thats the main problem from eastern manufacture

 

[Nike]

Then why not give the money or budget to TNI instead of giving $2 billion as a PMN to BUMN. The defense ministry can acquire a lot of asset with so much money

Cause it will be more acceptable politically

 

[ardezzo]

there're also con in ramp door design, soldier easly trap when the vehicle in dangerous sinking situation also difficult to embark with extra equipment, cannot embark in midle of water and mud due the water line is in the upper hull door

AFAIK all APC that used ramp door also had roof door, but this BT3F design had all the doors face upward except for the two little door at the back

They got back or rear door

small little door, that why I said difficult not impossible

 

[Mr. Woof Woof]

doesn't make any sense, if they really wanted to use it to distribute fuel especially in papua they should buy smaller aircraft. using A400 will only increase the cost. with pricetag of $ 2 billion USD for only 4-5 A400 it's cheaper and better to buy 2 skuadron of C130J, or 3 skuadron CN 235, or dozens of N219. It's more suitable and feasible for distributing fuel, not to mention it has far lower operational cost. Or better yet built pipping network

Nametag,

Udah mau dibeliin itu mestinya situ bersyukur.

Saya malah berharap bukan hanya Pertamina, Garuda dan Pelita yang beli platform alutsista, tetapi juga yang lain ikutan, misal :
Pelindo dan Angkasa Pura beli radar Smart L, Telkom pasang jaringan sonar bawah laut, Kemenkes beli LPD RS, ASDP beli LST dan LCU, semua pemprov beli Chinook dan Super Cougar, semua pemkot dan pemkab beli heli sekelas Bell/Blackhawk/H145, waskita karya dan bumn konstruksi lainnya misal nyumbang beli Penyapu ranjau Bonanza, recovery vehicle dan ponton apung M3 Amphibious Rig, dsb.

Pertahanan di kita itu menganut sistem pertahanan rakyat semesta, jadi nggak heran kalo untuk beli alutsista pun juga semua ikut nyumbang.

Masih ingat Menteri Pariwisata Ibu Mari Elka Pangestu kok dikasih brevet kehormatan Hiu Kencana ? Emangnya apa hubungan pariwisata dengan satuan kapal selam ?

https://m.antaranews.com/amp/berita/452276/dua-menteri-dianugerahi-brevet-hiu-kencana

 

[Nike]

marine Corps maintenance depot