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Singapore Airshow 2018: Boeing's Asia defence market expanding
13th February 2018 - 04:02 GMT | byWendell Minnick in Singapore

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Boeing is upbeat about its opportunities in the Asia-Pacific for a long list of military products, including offering the KC-46A Pegasus and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet to India to possible further upgrades for Japan’s F-15J Eagles, plus interest in CH-47F Chinook and AH-64 Apachehelicopters.

Gene Cunningham, vice president of Boeing Defense, Space and Security, related that the company views Asia-Pacific as one of the company’s growth areas for the future. This includes new partners and new technologies such as Liquid Robotics’ Wave Glider USV and Insitu’s ScanEagle UAV, he said.

Boeing is in discussions with Vietnam on the military’s interest in UAVs, possibly the ScanEagle or RQ-21 Blackjack (formerly called the Integrator). Even though US defence export restrictions have been lifted, any sales still have to go through a US government release process, he said.

India is expected to receive the last production ‘white tail’ C-17 Globemaster III strategic airlifter, with a decision expected in the near term, he said. The Indian Air Force has already procured ten C-17s to replace ageing Ilyushin Il-76 airlifters.

There is also potential interest in India for the KC-46A Pegasus aerial refueller, which has already been selected by Japan.

The Indian Navy is in technical discussions for the possible procurement of the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet for its new carrier-based aircraft. Boeing expects there to be strong competition for this requirement to outfit fighters for new Vikrant-class aircraft carriers.

In Indonesia, Boeing is in discussions on procurement of the CH-47. Pairing the Chinook with Indonesia’s recent procurement of the AH-64 Apache makes sense in terms of adding missions.

In late 2017, Boeing delivered three Apaches and it expects to deliver the remaining five to Indonesia this year.

Overall, the CH-47 market in the Asia-Pacific is impressive for both military and humanitarian/disaster relief missions, Cunningham said.

There have also been discussions with the Philippines and Thailand on their attack helicopter requirements, with both the AH-64 and AH-6i being considered.

Boeing also sees a potential market for both upgrades and new sales of the F/A-18 to Malaysia. The Royal Malaysian Air Force procured eight Hornets in 1997 and has a requirement under its Multi-Role Combat Aircraft programme to outfit three squadrons with new fighters, though this programme has been extant for a number of years.

Boeing has been in discussions for about a decade on Japan’s potential requirement to upgrade 200 F-15s, most likely with an AESA radar and other enhancements.

The company is also eager to participate in Japan’s next-generation fighter aircraft programme to replace its ageing F-2 fighters.

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-notes/singapore-airshow-2018-boeings-asia-defence-market/

Government is very upbeat about this plane. Believe me, this one will coming to the town

 

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Indonesia increases military aircraft fleet

Hamid Sellak February 06, 2018

Indonesia is expanding its military’s air capabilities. Six refurbished Lockheed Martin F-16s from the U.S. landed in the island nation in December 2017, the final complement of a procurement of 24. A shipment of the first three of eight Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopters, pictured, followed. Several Boeing CH-47 Chinook helicopters could join them if current negotiations lead to their procurement by Jakarta. Europe’s Airbus A400M transport plane could also join the migration.

The U.S. provided the F-16s to Indonesia as part of a government-to-government arrangement signed in 2011 under the U.S. Excess Defense Articles program with the first delivery made in July 2014, according to a White House fact sheet. The deal called for Indonesia to acquire 19 single-seat F-16Cs and five F-16D two-seaters.

The planes were updated with the advanced Modular Mission Computer produced by Raytheon, as well as vastly improved radar, avionics and the capability to carry and field more advanced sensors and missiles such as the advanced medium-range air-to-air missile (AMRAAM). Indonesian pilots have been training in the U.S. as part of the deal, and Indonesian aircraft technicians have received training from U.S. mobile training teams in Indonesia.

Indonesia paid an estimated U.S. $750 million for the upgrade. The used planes were procured with a cost-free grant.

The eight AH-64E Apaches went to Indonesia through the U.S. Foreign Military Sales program, finalized in August 2013, according to the U.S. Defense Security Agency. The addition of Northrop Grumman AN/APG-78 Longbow Fire Control Radar and 140 Lockheed Martin AGM-114R3 anti-tank missiles brought the deal total to an estimated U.S. $1.42 billion.

FORUM spoke with Jakarta-based aviation consultant Melvin Richard Prell about the procurements. Prell worked formerly as an advisor with the Office of Defense Cooperation, U.S. Embassy to Indonesia.

“Jakarta’s decision to procure advanced attack aircraft is rooted in a number of territorial and security concerns,” Prell said. He questioned the significance of Indonesian media reports that some of the Apaches would be stationed at a new air base in Indonesia’s Nantuna islands in the South China Sea in a territory partially claimed by China.

“Nantuna is not that big of an issue,” he said. “They have moved assets there already, but what’s driving the acquisition of advanced assault aircraft has more to do with border disputes in Kalimantan, on the border with Malaysia. That is a bigger concern. And of course, terrorism, domestic and international. Some terrorists are coming from the Philippines or Thailand, and a lot of ISIS fighters are coming back from the Middle East.”

The Kalimantan provinces of Indonesia share the island of Borneo with the Malaysian states of Sabah and Sarawak. The island and surrounding waters have been the site of ongoing territorial disputes between the two countries. Indonesian news agency Antara reported that one probable base for the Apaches would be in Berau, in the northernmost district of East Kalimantan.

Jakarta is also trying to modernize its airlift capabilities, Prell said. Negotiations are underway to acquire Boeing CH-47 Chinook helicopters to carry troops and supplies, as well as the A400M large transport plane from the Europe’s Airbus.

“The Indonesian military can move a lot of troops. They have a fairly good lift capability with C130s,” he said, referring to the country’s modest fleet of Lockheed Martin C-130 transport planes. “But with the A400M, they would be able to move their tanks around, which they don’t have a way to do except with ships.”

http://apdf-magazine.com/indonesia-increases-military-aircraft-fleet/

 

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Government is very upbeat about this plane. Believe me, this one will coming to the townView attachment 453681

If the deal is becomes real, have no idea what makes the govt forcing to acquire such an overpriced aircraft.. When our current defense budget are still inadequate and the Air Force's C130Bs fleet are mostly needs immediate modernisations, I think it is better if that budget are diverted to accelerate the modernisation program, with the C130J Super Herc's is enough to being the successor. Considering to the commonality in spare parts, maintenance and operations, maked the overall acquisitions cost and training are relatively more cheap and efficient. So we can save more money to support other priority programs (IMO).

 

[Mr. Woof Woof]

If the deal is becomes real, have no idea what makes the govt forcing to acquire such an overpriced aircraft.. When our current defense budget are still inadequate and the Air Force's C130Bs fleet are mostly needs immediate modernisations, I think it is better if that budget are diverted to accelerate the modernisation program, with the C130J Super Herc's is enough to being the successor. Considering to the commonality in spare parts, maintenance and operations, maked the overall acquisitions cost and training are relatively more cheap and efficient. So we can save more money to support other priority programs (IMO).

Usually in one squadron we use 14 units of aircraft = 4 in duty, 4 ready, 4 maintenance and 2 backup.

A400m can load cargoes or vehicles that can't be loaded into Super Herky due to their (cargoes and vehicles) weight and size (width and height) like cranes, mlrs, tanks, apaches etc.

Also A400m can load more paratroopers, passengers and logistic cargoes.

For example paratroopers :
We already have eight C130Hs from Australia (can load 64 paratroopers).

I hope we can buy 24 unit of C130J-30s (92 paratroopers) varian rather than C130J (64 paratroopers).

I also hope we can buy eight unit of A400m (116 paratroopers).

These quantity of aircrafts can be divided into 4 squadrons.

If each squadron consist of :
6 C130J-30s = 6 * 92 = 552
2 A400ms = 2 * 116 = 232
2 C130H = 2 * 64 = 128

552 + 232 + 128 = 912

If a C130J can load only 64 paratroopers thus 912 / 64 = 14,25

This combination of 6 unit C130J-30s + 2 unit A400ms + 2 unit C130Hs can load more paratroopers/passengers/variety of cargoes/logistics/vehicles than 14 unit of C130Js.

With this combination so less aircrafts to be bought than the ordinary C130J or C130H.

 

[Nike]

If the deal is becomes real, have no idea what makes the govt forcing to acquire such an overpriced aircraft.. When our current defense budget are still inadequate and the Air Force's C130Bs fleet are mostly needs immediate modernisations, I think it is better if that budget are diverted to accelerate the modernisation program, with the C130J Super Herc's is enough to being the successor. Considering to the commonality in spare parts, maintenance and operations, maked the overall acquisitions cost and training are relatively more cheap and efficient. So we can save more money to support other priority programs (IMO).

They forced Pelita air services to bought the A400M, not the MoD. Technically it will be under Pertamina, but for operational will be under Air Force supervising.

Usually in one squadron we use 14 units of aircraft = 4 in duty, 4 ready, 4 maintenance and 2 backup.

A400m can load cargoes or vehicles that can't be loaded into Super Herky due to their (cargoes and vehicles) weight and size (width and height) like cranes, mlrs, tanks, apaches etc.

Also A400m can load more paratroopers, passengers and logistic cargoes.

For example paratroopers :
We already have eight C130Hs from Australia (can load 64 paratroopers).

I hope we can buy 24 unit of C130J-30s (92 paratroopers) varian rather than C130J (64 paratroopers).

I also hope we can buy eight unit of A400m (116 paratroopers).

These quantity of aircrafts can be divided into 4 squadrons.

If each squadron consist of :
6 C130J-30s = 6 * 92 = 552
2 A400ms = 2 * 116 = 232
2 C130H = 2 * 64 = 128

552 + 232 + 128 = 912

If a C130J can load only 64 paratroopers thus 912 / 64 = 14,25

This combination of 6 unit C130J-30s + 2 unit A400ms + 2 unit C130Hs can load more paratroopers/passengers/variety of cargoes/logistics/vehicles than 14 unit of C130Js.

With this combination so less aircrafts to be bought than the ordinary C130J or C130H.

Air Force still stick to their C130J plan

 

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If the deal is becomes real, have no idea what makes the govt forcing to acquire such an overpriced aircraft.. When our current defense budget are still inadequate and the Air Force's C130Bs fleet are mostly needs immediate modernisations, I think it is better if that budget are diverted to accelerate the modernisation program, with the C130J Super Herc's is enough to being the successor. Considering to the commonality in spare parts, maintenance and operations, maked the overall acquisitions cost and training are relatively more cheap and efficient. So we can save more money to support other priority programs (IMO).

Maybe the payload of Airbus is the reason, as comparison:

Advanced design of the Airbus A400M incorporates extensive use of composite materials. It is fitted with turboprop engines. These engines were selected because of a number of advantages, such as cruise fuel efficiency and lower operating cost.

The A400M has a maximum payload capacity of 37 t. It can carry two 8x8 armored vehicles. This military transport can take-off and land on soft semi-prepared airfields and requires relatively short runways. It was also design to operate with limited or no ground facilities.

The C-130J Super Hercules was developed by Lockheed Martin. It is the latest production version of the C-130 Hercules. The Super Hercules made its first flight in 1996. It replaced in production the previous C-130H. Deliveries of this tactical airlifter commenced in 1998. By 2014 over 280 Super Hercules aircraft of various models have been delivered to at least 14 countries. Largest operators are the US Air Force, US Marine Corps, Australia, Canada, India, Italy and the United Kingdom. In the Royal Air Force service this aircraft is known as Hercules C5.

This tactical transport aircraft has a payload capacity of 19 t. It can carry 92 soldiers, or 6 pallets, or 2-3 HMMWVs, or a single M113 armored personnel carrier.

Its stretched version, the C-130J-30 has a payload capacity of 20 t. It can carry 128 soldiers, or 8 pallets with cargo.

And as mentioned in article before:
“The Indonesian military can move a lot of troops. They have a fairly good lift capability with C130s,” he said, referring to the country’s modest fleet of Lockheed Martin C-130 transport planes. “But with the A400M, they would be able to move their tanks around, which they don’t have a way to do except with ships.”

 

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Korps Marinir Selenggarakan Pelatihan Radar Hughes GSRS

14 Februari 2018



Radar Kelvin Hughes atau Ground Surveyland Radar System (GSRS) (photo : Kelvin Hughes)

20 Prajurit Marinir Ikuti Upacara Pembukaan Pelatihan Radar Hughes Hasil Pengadaan Kemhan TA. 2107
Letkol Mar Helmi Ardiansyah (Paban Harpal Slog Kormar) mewakili Aslog Dankormar Kolonel Mar Budiarso, S.E., membuka upacara Pelatihan Radar Hughes Kormar Hasil Pengadaan Kemhan TA. 2017 bertempat di Aula Golf Range Cilandak Jakarta Selatan, Senin (12/02/2018).

Pelatihan Radar Hughes Kormar Hasil Pengadaan Kemhan TA. 2017 diikuti oleh 20 personel terdiri dari Brigif-1Mar 4 personil, Brigif-2 Mar 4 personel, Brigif-3 Mar 4 personel, Menart-1 Mar 4 personel dan Menart-2 Mar 4 personel, kepelatihan ini akan berlangsung selama empat hari dari tanggal 12 s.d 15 Februari 2018 dengan Ketua Pelaksana Danyonif-4 Mar Letkol Mar Didik Iwan Supriyanto, S.E., M.Tr.Hanla.

Dalam sambutannya Aslog Dankormar yang dibacakan oleh Paban Harpal Slog Kormar menyampaikan bahwa pelatihan dan uji coba ini merupakan upaya yang dilakukan dalam proses transfer pengetahuan dan aplikasi cara pengunaan alat sebelum diserahkan kepada Korps Marinir untuk memberikan keyakinan kepada pimpinan Korps Marinir bahwa setelah mengikuti pelatihan ini calon pengawak mampu mengoperasikan alat ini dan mengetahui kemampuan dan batas kemampuan alat ini yang akan digunakan dalam menunjang tugas pokok satuannya.



Tampilan Kelvin Hughes GSRS radar (photo : Kelvin Hughes)

Radar Kelvin Hughes GSRS

"Radar Hughes atau Ground Surveyland Radar System (GSRS) ini merupakan tipe radar pengamatan permukaan/darat, yang memiliki kemampuan mendeteksi, mengetahui dan mengidentifikasi musuh yang bergerak berupa kendaraan maupun personel secara terus menerus dari arah 360 derajat dan dapat dibuat Zona Clearing Alarm yang dapat mendeteksi musuh yang masuk wilayah tertentu. Radar ini terdiri dari 5 set mobile (dalam kendaraan) dan 5 set portable yang akan didistribusikan masing-masing 1 set (mobile maupun portable) ke Brigif-1 Mar, Brigif-2 Mar, Brigif-3 Mar, Menart-1 Mar dan Menart-2 Mar,"ucap Aslog Dankormar.

Sebelum mengakhiri sambutannya ada beberapa hal yang patut dipedomani, pertama utamakan faktor keselamatan dan keamanan personel maupun material, kedua laksanakan pelatihan dan uji coba ini dengan serius, ketiga proses transfer pengetahuan dan aplikasi penggunaan radar ini agar dilaksanakan sebaik-baiknya.

Hadir dalam acara tersebut Danyonif-4 Mar Letkol Mar Didik Iwan Supriyanto, S.E.,M.Tr.Hanla (Palaklat), Pabandya Pal Slog Kormar Mayor Mar Andy Suryanto (Pawas/Staf Uji Fungsi), Pasi 2 Yonif-4 Mar Mayor Mar Bambang Pramusintho (Pasioplat, Instruktur Mr. Alex Kehoe (Kelvin Hughes, UK), Bapak Syarifuddin dan Bapak Teddy (PT. Kencana Sakti Buana).

(TNI AL)
Marine Corps just bought Kelvin Hughes Ground Surveillance Radar Systems and made training of it

 

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If the deal is becomes real, have no idea what makes the govt forcing to acquire such an overpriced aircraft.. When our current defense budget are still inadequate and the Air Force's C130Bs fleet are mostly needs immediate modernisations, I think it is better if that budget are diverted to accelerate the modernisation program, with the C130J Super Herc's is enough to being the successor. Considering to the commonality in spare parts, maintenance and operations, maked the overall acquisitions cost and training are relatively more cheap and efficient. So we can save more money to support other priority programs (IMO).

its the time to get new aircraft that can carry heavier cargo. with the herky to carry the troops the A400M can carry the komodo/badak/apache etc (tapi mungkin ga bisa ngangkut marder and MMWT agak2 ngepres) to another island far away, last exercise TNI AU use p6 ATAV , with A400M they can bring heavier vechile.
but yeah A400M is expensive and there is not many options in the market.
considerring that TNI AU want to get AEW, tanker, and new transport aircraft, they should get additional budget.
cut a few % from the army and give it to the air force and navy.
are we still at 1% gdp for military?

 

[Star Bugs]

I definitely want new full sized frigates, but I don't want to see this one go away either.

its the time to get new aircraft that can carry heavier cargo. with the herky to carry the troops the A400M can carry the komodo/badak/apache etc (tapi mungkin ga bisa ngangkut marder and MMWT agak2 ngepres) to another island far away, last exercise TNI AU use p6 ATAV , with A400M they can bring heavier vechile.
but yeah A400M is expensive and there is not many options in the market.
considerring that TNI AU want to get AEW, tanker, and new transport aircraft, they should get additional budget.
cut a few % from the army and give it to the air force and navy.
are we still at 1% gdp for military?

How about this is one? Bigger, fly further, and cheaper. And please don't say difficult and expensive to maintain because they already produce more than 1000 units compare to A400M only 70 units.

Il-76MD-90A
An upgraded version with a new glass cockpit, upgraded avionics, new internal wing structure and Aviadvigatel PS-90 engines. It was also known as Il-476 while in development.

 

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How about this is one? Bigger, fly further, and cheaper. And please don't say difficult and expensive to maintain because they already produce more than 1000 units compare to A400M only 70 units.

Il-76MD-90A
An upgraded version with a new glass cockpit, upgraded avionics, new internal wing structure and Aviadvigatel PS-90 engines. It was also known as Il-476 while in development.

ok this bird is good , and because it use turbo fan engine it gonna need longer air strip for take off and landing, not really a problem we have many air field wih adequate length.

tambahan The A400M is able to land on, and take-off from, any short, soft and rough unprepared CBR 6 airstrip, no longer than 750 m / 2,500 ft, while delivering up to 25 tonnes / 55,000 lb of payload, and with enough fuel on board for a 930 km / 500 nm return trip.
Should we get this new type of cargo aircraft? (yes)
Which one? (pass)
btw kita jadi beli yang pesawat amfibi rusia kan? mungkin kalo selera cocok bisa nambah pesawat tipe lain dari rusia

 

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The reasoning behind acquiring A-400M as a way to transport our tank sound ridiculous, you can't carry any leopard 2 with A-400M. You have to use C-17 to transport them. If they mean to transport AMX-13 or FV101 scorpion as "Tanks", then even the old hercs can carry them you don't need to buy overprice A400

 

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A400m dibeli bukan buat kapabilitasnya tapi buat kickbacknya atau buat ngumpulin duit buat pilpres 2019
Seperti dulu sir beye pada bank century
Note: ini cuma pendapat pribadi ya, ga usah dibawa serius hehehehehhe