Indo-Pak cricket: Why does India keep giving when Pak just takes

[majesticpankaj]

All Indian should read this

Washington: Is India slowly replacing the United States in the dysfunctional relationship with Pakistan where it humours the spoilt child with rewards without demanding accountability for bad behaviour? Ironically, just when Washington and other capitals are finally tightening the screws on Islamabad, New Delhi is finding excess generosity in its heart.

In the wake of what should now be termed an extremely successful visit — from Pakistan’s point of view — by Foreign Secretary Jalil Abbas Jilani, India will resume cricketing ties and may lift the ban on Pakistani television channels. Both significant concessions and both made in the absence of any tangible positive moves from Islamabad.

This when Jilani and subsequently Pakistan’s ambassador to India, Salman Bashir, basically threw mud in India’s face and rubbished the evidence of ISI’s involvement in the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Bashir said on Karan Thapar’s show that it was “unbelievable” and “incredible” for India to say that Pakistani state agencies were involved in the attacks when Pakistani military’s headquarters and ISI offices have been attacked by terrorists.

I don’t see why both can’t be true or how one precludes the other. But logic clearly hasn’t been Pakistan’s strongest suit. After all, it has been working steadily towards its own destruction.

By all means, give when you get something in return. Strengthen democratic forces within Pakistan but not by unilateral disarmament. AFP
Pakistani diplomats are said to be skilled at their craft and they certainly are. For ten years they took billions of dollars in American money while their terrorist proxies killed American soldiers. But why is India falling into the trap it has clearly seen others dive in over decades?

By all means, give when you get something in return. Strengthen democratic forces within Pakistan but not by unilateral disarmament. The proxy war against India hasn’t been called off — not a single meaningful gesture has been made to show the official mindset has changed. The atmosphere may have improved around the edges but a nation’s business can’t be conducted on the basis of atmospherics.

The last round of excitement in Indo-Pak saga was generated by Pakistan’s supposed granting of Most Favoured Nation status to India, 16 years too late but never mind. The initial announcement came in November last year but it has remained an announcement so far.

Now India is willing to resume cricketing ties, surely the mother of all excitement. Remember 2005 when hundreds of Pakistani fans came across the border and partook of the joy that only an India-Pakistan match can generate? Here is a grim detail — among the fans were 14 people who never went back to Pakistan and were never found. They are probably scouting sites, recruiting people, creating cells and blending in.

Sajid Mir, a key planner of the Mumbai attacks, and one Major Abdur Rehman apparently came as innocent cricket fans in 2005 and went around scoping Delhi and Mumbai for nearly two weeks, according to Syed Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal, one of the plotters of Mumbai who is being interrogated by India after his extradition from Saudi Arabia. This is a year before David Headley began making his trips to India. Can Indian officials ensure the next batch of attackers doesn’t sneak in as we begin the new round of cricket diplomacy?

Now for the other concession — not yet made but being looked at favourably by the Indian government. Jilani seems to have successfully argued that India should remove its ban on PTV and private channels. Alas, this is an idea whose time has not yet come. The demand from Pakistan has been on the table for several years but in the past wiser counsel prevailed.

So what makes Indian policy makers suddenly so sanguine about hate speech and anti-India propaganda that are regular fare on some Pakistani channels? Anyone who has watched Mubashir Luqman or Zaid Hamid talk casually about annihilating India with nuclear weapons (and Israel and the US) would know what I am referring to. Hamid’s solution to all Indo-Pak problems is to take over India with his “lashkars” and create one large country called Pakistan.

Do we really need this kind of onslaught? Do we really need to unleash Hafiz Saeed, a certified terrorist leader who has eased himself into Pakistan’s political discourse while the generals have watched, into millions of Indian homes? That too legitimately by signing an agreement? This will be a confidence building measure — but only for Pakistan.

In the past, district commissioner of Jammu has ordered cable operators to stop distributing Pakistani channels, including ARY and Geo, because of the intense anti-India propaganda. In Punjab, people in border villages have alerted the Indian army and visiting reporters about demonisation of India on PTV, a channel they watched because the Doordarshan signal was too weak.

May be there is some deep “Chanakya neeti” involved in the latest concessions or just latent idealism. I, for one, don’t get it. For the record, I want good relations with Pakistan but as Bashir said: It takes two to tango. Sadly, Pakistan’s tango is with terrorism. And the music there has died.

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[angeldust]

I am hugely pissed that our government and the BCCI have taken this step.

 

[Paan Singh]

kuch ni hai yaar....there are few pts.

1)pk is our neighbor ...U.S is not.
2)These are just normal steps and have been placed earlier too and it will take no time to go our relations in cold era again..
3) its just lollypop in hands of pakistan that we want normal relations ..they knw that they cant get anything against india.
4)it helps us to show that we want good relations

 

[majesticpankaj]

I am hugely pissed that our government and the BCCI have taken this step.

shameless b@stards...I must say.

 

[majesticpankaj]

kuch ni hai yaar....there are few pts.

1)pk is our neighbor ...U.S is not.
2)These are just normal steps and have been placed earlier too and it will take no time to go our relations in cold era again..
3) its just lollypop in hands of pakistan that we want normal relations ..they knw that they cant get anything against india.
4)it helps us to show that we want good relations

so what is the outcome ? or shall we wait for another terror strike ?

 

[ajtr]

I am hugely pissed that our government and the BCCI have taken this step.

oh too much of heart burn.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Appeasement seems to be the mantra of MMS & his cronies from day one. Then again.. what can be done? That's the state of Indian management today..

Saviour or Sonia's poodle, asks UK paper about PM Manmohan Singh - The Times of India

me thinks...poodle!!

 

[zimmick]

How many lessons do we need to learn, how many innocent lives need to be lost before it sinks in that you just can't trust the Pakistanis? I wish that our politicians were not so thick headed. Let us call off the tour as early as possible.

 

[xyxmt]

I am hugely pissed that our government and the BCCI have taken this step.

I am more pissed than you that our moron cricket control board even considering playing with India. We are in a different league than you, indian team is beneath us. I can understand why India wants to play because Pakistani team grabs a big crowd. But whats wrong with us why we even give Indians the pleasure of watching good cricket. If is has to be it must be in Pakistan or else they can play with 2nd class teams like Aust.

 

[Fazlu]

At the end of it all , here is the reality--we have to live with pak. Some form of peace has to be there.

 

[agamdilawari]

I can understand why India wants to play because Pakistani team grabs a big crowd.

Uffff

PCB chiefs be it Zaka Ashraf or his predecessor Ijaz **** continued to move their ***** from Lahore to India ever since India decided not to visit Pakistan for their tour in 2009. Losses were such that PCB chief used to visit India many times every year to convince BCCI for India tour bcz hosting India in international cricket like a bumper lottery for all boards and broadcasting rights were taken by Ten Sports in 2009 with a promise of several India-Pak series. But when India showed PCB middle finger after 26/11, Ten Cricket became pain in PCB's ***. Even now when India agreed to play with Pakistan, PCB gave a thought of revenue sharing with BCCI to compensate their 2009 tour loss but guess what BCCI did...another _|_. Lol...khud fatehaal aur tana kase humpe. Learn to live in reality brother...might help ur nation in future

 

[dearone4u_22]

May be there is some deep “Chanakya neeti” involved in the latest concessions or just latent idealism. I, for one, don’t get it. For the record, I want good relations with Pakistan but as Bashir said: It takes two to tango. Sadly, Pakistan’s tango is with terrorism. And the music there has died.

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This is the Keyword ...Ppl Underestimate it a lot...... Chankya Pratigya Never rest till it gets what it has set his eyes on

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

Uffff

PCB chiefs be it Zaka Ashraf or his predecessor Ijaz **** continued to move their ***** from Lahore to India ever since India decided not to visit Pakistan for their tour in 2009. Losses were such that PCB chief used to visit India many times every year to convince BCCI for India tour bcz hosting India in international cricket like a bumper lottery for all boards and broadcasting rights were taken by Ten Sports in 2009 with a promise of several India-Pak series. But when India showed PCB middle finger after 26/11, Ten Cricket became pain in PCB's ***. Even now when India agreed to play with Pakistan, PCB gave a thought of revenue sharing with BCCI to compensate their 2009 tour loss but guess what BCCI did...another _|_. Lol...khud fatehaal aur tana kase humpe. Learn to live in reality brother...might help ur nation in future

And where did you get this story?? Bollywood??
Enjoy!! But learn to use clean language...

 

[majesticpankaj]

Why cricket with Pakistan is not a good idea


While India [ Images ]n officials never stop berating the Americans and Europeans for mollycoddling Pakistan despite its rank bad behaviour, the Republic of BCCI and the Republic of India have gone ahead and done something similar to what the West does, says Sushant Sareen.


It would be really interesting to know what exactly prompted the Board of Control for Cricket in India to invite Pakistan for a short cricket series in India later this year. Who raised this matter in the BCCI meeting and who all supported the decision?

Where did the pressure come from -- was it the Prime Minister's Office? Did the Central Bureau of Investigation probe in the Jaganmohan Reddy [ Images ] case have anything to do with the BCCI agreeing to host Pakistan? Or was it only the lure of lucre that prompted the BCCI to take this decision?

Whatever the reason, one thing is clear: the Pakistanis have been proved right in their assessment of India as a namby-pamby country with a leadership that has made appeasement a pillar of foreign policy. Even worse, the Pakistanis would also be sniggering about how their stereotyping of India as a country of 'banias and lalas' who would do anything to earn an extra buck has come true, yet again.

Clearly, just as the Romans had their spectacles to befool the public and distract its attention, the Indian political leadership uses cricket as the opium to lull the masses into believing that all is now well with Pakistan and the bonhomie on the field (and off it during the series) is real and not contrived. It is another matter that when Shahid Afridi [ Images ] goes back after the World Cup semi-final, he makes disparaging remarks about Indian (or was it Hindu?) hospitality. Or when Sohail Tanvir [ Images ] is asked about the ban on Pakistani players in IPL, he blithely says that this is the 'Hindu Zeheniat (mentality)!

While Indians go overboard in welcoming Pakistanis, they would do well to remember the example of a renowned Pakistani ghazal singer who inadvertently told an Indian diplomat (who he thought was a Pakistani diplomat in India) that he enjoys the money and the booze in India but at the end of the day he doesn't forget that Indians are Kafirs. Of course after he was blacklisted and the black money and Black Label stopped flowing, the Kafirs became kosher!

A former Indian foreign secretary had once dismissed Pakistan's raising of the Kashmir [ Images ] issue at the UN as 'the annual itch'. It now seems that India too has a 'Pakistan itch', what with politicians suffering withdrawal symptoms after a few months of disengagement. Not surprisingly, having received no satisfaction whatsoever on the issue of terrorism from Pakistan, the Indian leadership has reconciled itself to the unrelenting export of terror from Pakistan and come to the conclusion that there is nothing India can do except turn the other cheek.

Talk to top officials and policy makers and it becomes clear that India is forging its Pakistan policy on the premise that its only hope lies in making a dent on Pakistan's unremitting hostility through promotion of trade and people-to-people relations. Even the earlier pretence of punishing/penalising Pakistan for exporting terrorism into India has now been given up. Indeed this decision is another example of the complete absence of statecraft in this government. Given that one constantly hears the lament that India doesn't have enough leverages, it is a little shocking is how cavalierly India treats even the leverages it has. What should have been used as a reward for Pakistan if it delivered on bringing the planners and perpetrators of the 26/11 attacks to justice has been handed on a platter to Pakistan only so there can be some improvement in the atmospherics.

All this in large part appears to be motivated by the burning desire of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [ Images ] to visit the land of his birth. Not that this visit will bring about any paradigm change in the state of Indo-Pak relations, unless of course the Indian government wants to play Santa Claus [ Images ] and bear gifts of Siachen and Sir Creek for the Pakistanis.

The problem, however, is that these gifts will only whet Pakistan's appetite for more. The other problem regarding the proposed visit (probably towards the end of the year) is that there will be no credible interlocutor with whom the Indian PM can engage with, at least not before March/April 2013. By the time his visit comes through, Pakistan will either have a lame-duck prime minister in office in Islamabad [ Images ], or a caretaker PM (who in any case cannot make any far-reaching political decision). Therefore, unless Dr Singh intends to hold a dialogue with either Gen Ashfaq Kayani or Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry or even the rising stars of Pakistani politics (a certain Hafiz Saeed [ Images ] or his ideological alter ego, Imran Khan [ Images ]), his visit to Pakistan is going to be quite pointless.

All this aside, what is inexplicable is how Indian governments go out of their way to pull Pakistan out of the hole it keeps digging for itself. Every time Pakistan starts getting isolated in the international community, guess who comes to its rescue? India. After giving respectability to General Pervez Musharraf [ Images ] by inviting him to Agra [ Images ], India has now once again taken a step to resurrect and rehabilitate Pakistan's image in the international community. While Indian officials never stop berating the Americans and Europeans for mollycoddling Pakistan despite its rank bad behaviour, the Republic of BCCI and the Republic of India have gone ahead and done something similar to what the West does.

One can only wonder how the Americans will react when after the next terror attack India once again goes running to Uncle Sam asking him to take action against Pakistan. Meanwhile, let us all put on our flannels and get ready to host Pakistan and fete Dawood Ibrahim's [ Images ] close relative, Javed Miandad [ Images ], in either The Oberoi, or better still in The Taj Mahal hotel [ Images ]. After all, isn't cricket a religion in India and isn't it true that cricket is more important than the thousands who have died in terrorism and who at the end of the day are a mere statistic!

Sushant Sareen


Why cricket with Pakistan is not a good idea - Rediff.com India News

 

[angeldust]

oh too much of heart burn.

Tu Pakistani hai. Apne jhande laga besharm bewakoof.