India's Vikrant vs China's Fujian: Why Made-in-India aircraft carrier outshines Beijing's warship

[huanghong]

Wheteher we jumps to superlative or not can be discussed. You alwas have option to prove us wrong. We never said that Vikrant is better than super carrier but it has an edge over Chinese counterpert in many area like Indian destroyers enjoys superiority over their Chinese counterpart in almost all area except weight class.

Can you specifically talk about the advantages of Indian destroyers over 055?

 

[Ajamal]

Can you specifically talk about the advantages of Indian destroyers over 055?

ofcourse.

Radar MFstar much better than its Chinese counterpart.

Offensive weapon: Brahmos is the best.

Defensive weapon: MRSAM which can stop a supersonic missile just 500 away.

Torpedo decoy for protection.

 

[MajesticPug]

Well considering that Indians still haven't been able to do what Chinese did in 200 BC in terms of unified national language， I would say you are pretty fuckin behind as a nation.

... and considering Indians are still locked in the caste system, India is barbaric.

Is this so-called 'troller' thread? It's not advancing any reasoning or understanding of military techs.
Moderators.. please close this thread and hand the originator a whipping on the butts.

 

[Beast]

Wheteher we jumps to superlative or not can be discussed. You alwas have option to prove us wrong. We never said that Vikrant is better than super carrier but it has an edge over Chinese counterpert in many area like Indian destroyers enjoys superiority over their Chinese counterpart in almost all area except weight class.

Yes. Obvious a ramp is better than a catapult system despite not able to launch heavy payload aircraft from carrier.

You can continue to lie but its not gonna fool anybody. And you know why China can build space station and land rovers on Mars while India cant? Becos idiot like you living in fantasy and make faking statements to delude yourself.

 

[Ajamal]

Yes. Obvious a ramp is better than a catapult system despite not able to launch heavy payload aircraft from carrier.

You can continue to lie but its not gonna fool anybody. And you know why China can build space station and land rovers on Mars while India cant? Becos idiot like you living in fantasy and make faking statements to delude yourself.

I have already congratulated China for its space mission to Mars for being third country to reach Mars after India and UAE after failure in 2011 with Russian Rocket.

China is much ahead in Carrier technology from where Chinese made J 15 are incapable of take off with not more than 2 ton payload of few Air to Air Missiles. Lioning is incapable of even training. While US aircraft carriers are roaming in SCS, Chinese aircrafts are incapable of Blue water operations. Chinese aircraft carriers are better in the same way as J 20 are better than F22.

Indian aircraft carrier will carry MF star radar which can only be matched by Agies class destroyer radar. It is protected by state of art air defense missiles. Though Mig 29 K are not best, However they can be operated from carrier with full payload unlike J 15. It has Alpha Romeo Chopper Deployed on it. Now, can anybody enlighten me which Chinese chopper is a match to Alpha Romeo Or MF Star Radar? It is planned to be equipped with F 18 or Rafale M till ORCA arrives. Chinese calls their systems best. They call J 20 a F 22 killer so how can they believe that Vikrant is Better in any area?

 

[Beast]

ofcourse.

Radar MFstar much better than its Chinese counterpart.

Offensive weapon: Brahmos is the best.

Defensive weapon: MRSAM which can stop a supersonic missile just 500 away.

Torpedo decoy for protection.

All are junks. Made in India is just like your LCA which nobody want junkie and trash.

I have already congratulated China for its space mission to Mars for being third country to reach Mars after India and UAE after failure in 2011 with Russian Rocket.

But but... did you congrat China as second country in the world to land a rover on Mars which India is no where to be seen?

 

[huanghong]

ofcourse.

Radar MFstar much better than its Chinese counterpart.

Offensive weapon: Brahmos is the best.

Defensive weapon: MRSAM which can stop a supersonic missile just 500 away.

Torpedo decoy for protection.

Please give clear data for comparison, your current answer is just claiming to be better without any real data as a basis

Another reminder of the basic fact that any supersonic missile intercepted at 500 meters will all hit the defender due to kinetic energy. A system that claims to intercept a supersonic missile at 500 meters is pointless waste

 

[Ajamal]

Please give clear data for comparison, your current answer is just claiming to be better without any real data as a basis

Another reminder of the basic fact that any supersonic missile intercepted at 500 meters will all hit the defender due to kinetic energy. A system that claims to intercept a supersonic missile at 500 meters is pointless waste

Yes that is True but that shows the capability of missile. HQ 9 are incapable of intercepting Supersonic cruise missile at any distance.

 

[huanghong]

Yes that is True but that shows the capability of missile. HQ 9 are incapable of intercepting Supersonic cruise missile at any distance.

Why is HQ 9 unable to intercept supersonic cruise missiles at any distance? What is the basis for this statement?

 

[Beast]

Yes that is True but that shows the capability of missile. HQ 9 are incapable of intercepting Supersonic cruise missile at any distance.

India missile is junk. India combat aircraft is junk. India warship is junk. Indian themselves is junk too...

Please give clear data for comparison, your current answer is just claiming to be better without any real data as a basis

Another reminder of the basic fact that any supersonic missile intercepted at 500 meters will all hit the defender due to kinetic energy. A system that claims to intercept a supersonic missile at 500 meters is pointless waste

Dont waste time with this clone account obviously with no intention for meaningful debate.

 

[StraightEdge]

You're writing some low quality garbage. Do you check anything before typing non-sense?

China is much ahead in Carrier technology from where Chinese made J 15 are incapable of take off with not more than 2 ton payload of few Air to Air Missiles.

You should read this column by Rick Joe before you discuss on J-15. Off-course your claims are total farce.

Though Mig 29 K are not best, However they can be operated from carrier with full payload unlike J 15.

Again same claims.
On rest of the claims, it's mere verbal diarrhoea without a single piece of evidence. You can claim anything, but you need evidence to actually prove it.

 

[DF41]

I think I wait to see if planes can land and take off from Vikrant first.



Without bouncing off her deck and becoming submarines

Or Vikrant must wait until the sea is calm and mirror smooth first

 

[Ajamal]

You're writing some low quality garbage. Do you check anything before typing non-sense?


You should read this column by Rick Joe before you discuss on J-15. Off-course your claims are total farce.


Again same claims.
On rest of the claims, it's mere verbal diarrhoea without a single piece of evidence. You can claim anything, but you need evidence to actually prove it.

Here is my reference. You can lick your Verbal diarrhea.

That is not my claim but claim of Chinese state control media "China Daily".


To further complicate things, the J-15 can carry only two tons of weapons while fully fueled. “This would equip it with no more than two YJ-83K and two PL-8 missiles,” thus the “range of the YJ-83K prepared for the fighter will be shorter than comparable YJ-83K missiles launched from larger PLAN [People’s Liberation Army Navy] vessels. The J-15 will be boxed into less than 120 [kilometers] of attack range.”

Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter

In an unusual departure for mainland Chinese-language media, the Beijing-based Sina Military Network (SMN) criticized the capabilities of ...

greendef.blogspot.com

India missile is junk. India combat aircraft is junk. India warship is junk. Indian themselves is junk too...


Dont waste time with this clone account obviously with no intention for meaningful debate.

Chinese English is Junk like any other Chinese Product.

 

[StraightEdge]

Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter

In an unusual departure for mainland Chinese-language media, the Beijing-based Sina Military Network (SMN) criticized the capabilities of ...

greendef.blogspot.com

Your garbage doesn't even mention the writer name - that's a great thing as far as credibility goes. In fact this could have written by you or even a platypus.
You think you can get many writers on PLA better than Rick Joe? Did you bother to check his columns?

 

[Ajamal]

Your garbage doesn't even mention the writer name - that's a great thing as far as credibility goes. In fact this could have written by you or even a platypus.
You think you can get many writers on PLA better than Rick Joe? Did you bother to check his columns?

In India, chip and low quality goods is described as Chinese goods irrespective of whether it is Chinese or not. J 15 is a chinese copy of russian plane with 2 ton payload and 120 km range as per the article.