INDIA'S SPACE SUCCESS 'LIMITED' ,has the largest number of poor people!WE ARE WAY AHEAD - CHINA

[livingdead]

the chinese report is pretty accurate...

 

[SrNair]

I fully agree with the Chinese report. What it say it's true. Space is about payload and not about how many small useless satellite you can send in a go.

With heavy payload, you can send far larger, advance satellite to space or to higher orbit. You can build space station or gives you more option in space exploration like sending a rover down the mars to do close up exploration.

There is no doubt China is far ahead of India space program. Even Japan will rank ahead of India. Their H-1A rocket is far more powerful than even the coming new India rocket.

Apparently Chinese proved that they are almost like a jealous middle aged aunt in the neighbourhood .
Just look around the world ,noone cares about to pass comments about this mission including NASA.
NASA is light years ahead than China .But till now they didnt wrote articles like this to satisfy their ego.Nor Russia.
That is the difference between mighty powers and China .

We have already developed Mk3 and within few years we will commission ULV .Even then we dont care about human program because that is only good in satisfy your ego.

I fully agree with the Chinese report. What it say it's true. Space is about payload and not about how many small useless satellite you can send in a go.

With heavy payload, you can send far larger, advance satellite to space or to higher orbit. You can build space station or gives you more option in space exploration like sending a rover down the mars to do close up exploration.

There is no doubt China is far ahead of India space program. Even Japan will rank ahead of India. Their H-1A rocket is far more powerful than even the coming new India rocket.

Payload is not everything .
You have 100 + satellites to deploy in same orbit without any collision .Then again ,how can a Chinese understand this?

 

[Beast]

Apparently Chinese proved that they are almost like a jealous middle aged aunt in the neighbourhood .
Just look around the world ,noone cares about to pass comments about this mission including NASA.
NASA is light years ahead than China .But till now they didnt wrote articles like this to satisfy their ego.Nor Russia.
That is the difference between mighty powers and China .

We have already developed Mk3 and within few years we will commission ULV .Even then we dont care about human program because that is only good in satisfy your ego.

You shall your eyes and see more. They are plenty of western article including CNN bragging about their own space feat. This Chinese article is not even publish by CNSA.

Talking about satisfy ego, see how many Indian media agency post news of this bragging?

Unlike in China, manned missions are hard to take in democratic India, where governments can be taken to courts over loss of life. Unless Indian scientists are 100% sure that the technology they use is foolproof for manned missions, these missions are out of question in India.

As regarding the heavy lift capability, India should have the capability by next one year......GSLV.

India's immediate interests will be to send missions and rovers to Venus, Mars, Asteroids, and to other planets. The other interests will be satellite technologies, and achieving low cost and foolproof launch capabilities.

GSLV payload, the most can match CZ-2 rocket which is our previous generation.

 

[SrNair]

You shall your eyes and see more. They are plenty of western article including CNN bragging about their own space feat. This Chinese article is not even publish by CNSA.

Talking about satisfy ego, see how many Indian media agency post news of this bragging?


GSLV payload, the most can match CZ-2 rocket which is our previous generation.

I can see clearly than you due to obvious reason.They can brag about their own feat ,that is their right and what is your problem?
CNSA knows the difficulty of this mission .Morons from the Global times cant and so you supported it.

 

[Jackdaws]

China has achieved a lot. It would be foolish to deny it - and their poverty alleviation record is extremely good - better than India. India's space program is not driven by grandiose projects; it is driven by need - for weather and telecommunication satellites - even their "grand" projects to Mars and the Moon were made on a shoe-string budget. China of course wants to be seen as a big boy and compete with Nasa. That's their decision and best of luck to them. Neither should belittle the other - our countries have chosen different trajectories and China is ahead on most indicators. So congrats to them.

 

[Echo_419]

I fully agree with the Chinese report. What it say it's true. Space is about payload and not about how many small useless satellite you can send in a go.

With heavy payload, you can send far larger, advance satellite to space or to higher orbit. You can build space station or gives you more option in space exploration like sending a rover down the mars to do close up exploration.

There is no doubt China is far ahead of India space program. Even Japan will rank ahead of India. Their H-1A rocket is far more powerful than even the coming new India rocket.

Burn more

 

[nair]

The editorial pooh-poohed where India's space programme stood in comparison to America's and China's. "India's space technology development tends to project national image. It's reported that India also plans to reach Venus, another programme that is suitable for media hype but lacks follow-up research," the editorial said

There is a reason behind this..... ISRO stands out among the agencies we have and their success rate is much much higher than any other agencies..... Is there anything wrong in celebrating their success???

"On the whole, India's space technology still lags behind the US and China's. It has not yet formed a complete system. For instance, the engine of its rockets is not powerful enough to support large-scale space exploration."

Very true.... While china is no where near to that of US, similarly China is ahead than India is.... But both the nations are travelling in the same direction.....

The editorial pointed out, "There is no Indian astronaut in space and the country's plan to establish a space station has not started," referring to China's manned space missions, with two astronauts last year spending 30 days in the Tiangong-2 space module, which will be developed into a full-fledged space station.

Priorities!!!! As of now we are not working towards manned mission(or our priorities are not that), similarly we do not have any plan of setting up a space station....

The paper did add that it was "a hard-won achievement for India to reach current space technology level with a relatively small investment", saying it offered "food for thought for other countries", pointing out that the US space budget in 2013 was $39.3 billion, China $6.1 billion, Russia $5.3 billion, Japan $3.6 billion and India $1.2 billion.

This is an interesting data which gives an idea what kind of budget they work and consider the success they have...

Chinese media on ISRO’s record satellite launch: ‘Well done India, but we are way ahead’

We agree that you are away ahead.... So whats the point??? Want to pat on your back?

 

[gslv mk3]

I fully agree with the Chinese report. What it say it's true. Space is about payload and not about how many small useless satellite you can send in a go.

Sure- Maybe that's why there are so many small launcher development programs happening all around the world.

You new coming rocket is still consider a pathetic rocket with mediocre payload compare to China mighty CZ-5 25tons payload to space. Not even European and Japanese can beat China rocket

Heard of Ariane V & VI ?

Their H-1A rocket is far more powerful than even the coming new India rocket.

It's the same class as LVM3

Even Japan will rank ahead of India.

What's with 'even' Japan ? They were ahead of you in heavy lift launchers till recently.

NASA is light years ahead than China .But till now they didnt wrote articles like this to satisfy their ego.Nor Russia.

Mate, you nailed it !!!!

 

[Guynextdoor2]

I fully agree with the Chinese report. What it say it's true. Space is about payload and not about how many small useless satellite you can send in a go.

With heavy payload, you can send far larger, advance satellite to space or to higher orbit. You can build space station or gives you more option in space exploration like sending a rover down the mars to do close up exploration.

There is no doubt China is far ahead of India space program. Even Japan will rank ahead of India. Their H-1A rocket is far more powerful than even the coming new India rocket.

BS. Space is not about payload but about the money you can make of it. With advanced electronics you miniaturized satellies for all sorts of applications. That company is going to make millions of the fleet they launched. You will spend billions on projects that don't earn you returns.

 

[lonelyman]

A Chinese state-run newspaper in an editorial Thursday said India's record of sending 104 satellites into space was "a limited achievement", with India's space programme still lagging behind China's successes in its manned space programme.

India on Wednesday launched a record 104 satellites on a single rocket, which followed the Mars orbiter mission, which also garnered attention in China. The Chinese government described the Mars orbiter mission as "the pride of Asia" and said it would be keen to work more closely with India on space projects.

The state media, however, struck a different note on Thursday. "The Indians have reason to be proud," said a Thursday editorial in the Party-run Global Times, a widely read tabloid. "However, the space technology race is not mainly about the number of satellites at one go," it added. "It's fair to say the significance of this achievement is limited. In this regard, Indian scientists know more than the Indian public, who are encouraged by media reports."


INDIA'S SPACE PROGRAMME VERSUS US, CHINA ::

The editorial pooh-poohed where India's space programme stood in comparison to America's and China's. "India's space technology development tends to project national image. It's reported that India also plans to reach Venus, another programme that is suitable for media hype but lacks follow-up research," the editorial said.

"On the whole, India's space technology still lags behind the US and China's. It has not yet formed a complete system. For instance, the engine of its rockets is not powerful enough to support large-scale space exploration."


WHERE IS INDIA LAGGING BEHIND ::

The editorial pointed out, "There is no Indian astronaut in space and the country's plan to establish a space station has not started," referring to China's manned space missions, with two astronauts last year spending 30 days in the Tiangong-2 space module, which will be developed into a full-fledged space station.

The paper did add that it was "a hard-won achievement for India to reach current space technology level with a relatively small investment", saying it offered "food for thought for other countries", pointing out that the US space budget in 2013 was $39.3 billion, China $6.1 billion, Russia $5.3 billion, Japan $3.6 billion and India $1.2 billion.

The editorial concluded that India's example was "worth pondering". "The first is its ambition to make India a great power. Therefore, it's focused not only on immediate interests but long-term ones. Second, the country believes it should remain present in space technology development, given its close links with military. And third, India is under pressure to compete with China and refuses to lag behind."

"India's Achilles' Heel is its relatively small economic scale and a weak foundation for national development. As a hierarchical society, it has both world-class elite and a largest number of poor people. Many lessons can be drawn from India. As a rising power, it has done a good job. It is ambitious but pragmatic, preferring to compare with others as an incentive to progress. India's political and social philosophy is worth pondering."


http://www.defencenews.in/article/S...o-call-Indias-Space-Success-as-LIMITED-250509


Chinese media on ISRO’s record satellite launch: ‘Well done India, but we are way ahead’

India’s satellite-launch record has been noticed.

The Chinese media in a backhanded compliment hailed the feat but not before reminding India it had the world’s largest number of poor and its space technology lagged China by miles.

The state-run Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) on Wednesday launched 104 satellites in one go, a triumph that underlines the credibility of the country’s frugal but effective space programme.

India should be proud of its achievements, Chinese state media said on Thursday, pointing out gaps such as lack of a manned mission.

“On the whole, India’s space technology still lags behind the US’ and China’s. It has not yet formed a complete system,” the nationalist tabloid Global Times wrote.


India should remember it had the largest number of poor people in the world and a weak foundation for all-round national development, it said.

India didn’t have rockets powerful enough to support large-scale space exploration. “There is no Indian astronaut in space and the country’s plan to establish a space station has not started,” the editorial said.

China launched its sixth manned mission in October. The first was in 2003. The October launch was part of the long-term mission to have a permanent space station by 2020.

In 2013, China became the third country after the US and the former Soviet Union to successfully soft land a spacecraft on the Moon.

Officially, the Chinese government remained silent on India’s feat, which overhauled Russia’s record of 37 launches in 2014.

“This is perhaps the first widely followed world record India has made in the field of space technology. The Indians have reason to be proud,” the influential state-run daily said.

“India’s Achilles’ heel is its relatively small economic scale and a weak foundation for national development. As a hierarchical society, it has both world-class elite and a largest number of poor people.”

Many lessons could be drawn from India, which as a rising power had done a good job. “It is ambitious but pragmatic… India’s political and social philosophy is worth pondering,” it added before quickly moving to puncture the balloon.

“However, the space technology race is not mainly about the number of satellites at one go. It’s fair to say the significance of this achievement is limited.”

The write-up also compared the money spent by other countries on space missions to argue that even if India was spending less money than China, it worked out to be the same because India’s GDP was a fourth of that of China.

ISRO takes pride in its frugal innovation and it is because of its cost-effective models that India is emerging as a serious player in a crowded launch market.

“It’s a hard-won achievement for India to reach current space technology level with a relatively small investment. It offers food for thought for other countries. India launched a lunar probe in 2008 and ranked first among Asian countries by having an unmanned rocket orbit Mars in 2013,” the Global Times said.

India spends a little over $1 billion a year on its space programme compared with US’ budget of about $19.3 billion for 2017. China spent $6.1 billion in 2013, the write-up said.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...e-way-ahead/story-kRwNMp3JRJGrKwyla8jRYI.html

1 kg cubes? Is it satellite or space junk? Total payload 3t? A country relies on French to send heavies laugh at China?

 

[gslv mk3]

1 kg cubes? Is it satellite or space junk? Total payload 3t? A country relies on French to send heavies laugh at China?

Here comes another super ignorant Chinaman

 

[Mitro]

If India is poor malnourished uneducated poor infrastructure poor health care is nothing to do with ISRO they did more then expected in small budget.
ISRO is the only organization which make Indian proud so let them have a good time lol

 

[noksss]

Yes, sending a man to space, doing space module and land a rover on moon is little work. You new coming rocket is still consider a pathetic rocket with mediocre payload compare to China mighty CZ-5 25tons payload to space. Not even European and Japanese can beat China rocket. What makes India has a better chance in next 10years?

There is no denying the fact that china is ahead but talking about poor makes us really wonder whether u guys are

 

[K210]

1 kg cubes? Is it satellite or space junk?

Perhaps you should ask your university students. Maybe they can explain to you the cubesat concept!

One should never expect anything but complete assburn come out of china when india succeeds in anything. Such comments should incredible jealously/insecurity on the part of china.

As indians we should continue to build up our capabilities in all fields. If ISRO keeps going at its current pace it will be a major space power by the end of this decade.

 

[GHOSTS]

Khisyani billi khamba nauche.