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India’s Relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., Russia Ft. Pravin Sawhney

@Meengla
It is not easay to ignore Pakistan in current geopolitics .. listen from 22 to 25.

Even US officials visted BD just today for asking BD for some military alliance..

3 days ago, US offcicials said that Russia will not come to aid if China attacks India. Hinting it will be US.
@Jungibaaz
 
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Why do you have a broken heart. Come to Pakistan and see us. We will mend it . The problem remains a mistrust of nearly 8decades. Pakistan realizes that India is a much bigger power and wants to live in peace. However one way or another Kashmir needs to be decided and we need to move on from there. Once Kashmir gets decided we can establish diplomatic relations, trade and cultural exchanges. There need not be war between the 2 nations. However, we will not be subjugated or dictated to and want to live as equals.
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Does one brother subjugate the other, or dictate to him? irrespective of their respective ages? If they dislike each other - it happens - is it not normal to separate themselves, sometimes even their families, and live by themselves? Even then, there are certain occasions - weddings, the birth of a child, funerals - when even the separated brothers come together. Even then, sometimes the wives and the children keep up relations and dismiss the brothers themselves with a wave of the hand.

One thing I would like to get rid off is this persistent notion created by some ill-educated rasta-chhaap social media nuisances that India wants power. If you ask an Indian woman, or even a man in the street, all Indians want is to live lives of peace and quiet, with no violence coming their way, with no attacks, no assaults, with their wives and daughters safe in the cities, or the towns, or in the villages.

Is there something else a Pakistani would want for himself and for his family?

If you ask me what I want personally, I wish that every single child in the sub-continent lead the life of happiness and contentment that Nikhil does. Nothing more than that.

@Meengla
It is not easay to ignore Pakistan in current geopolitics .. listen from 22 to 25.

Even US officials visted BD just today for asking BD for some military alliance..

3 days ago, US offcicials said that Russia will not come to aid if China attacks India. Hinting it will be US.
@Jungibaaz
When did the US come to our aid? I lived through the sanction years; we could not import a Mac. The Sea Kings sat, gathering rust, because the jackal to the tiger stopped giving us spare parts. Every single piece of US, or British, or NATO equipment suddenly lost support.

Our team that was working at the Lockheed Martin offices on the flight control system for the LCA was locked out; they could not even recover their own notes.

Thanks, but no thanks, you seem to have got the knack of how to deal with the Murricans. We pass.
 
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India’s Relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., Russia Ft. Pravin Sawhney



In conversation with Pravin Sawhney, Editor Force Magazine, this episode of The Pakistan Pivot discusses India’s politics, foreign policy, and global world order. It explains India’s relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., and Russia. What is the India of today? How is India governed? Is Congress no longer a part of Indian politics? Can India become a regional and superpower? What is India’s foreign policy? Why does India see China as a threat and compete with it rather than as a partner for cooperation? What is the Quad doing about the Indo-Pacific and how does India view the group? Where is the world order headed? What is BRI’s flagship project CPEC doing? What are India-U.S. relations? What are India-Russia relations? What does the Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan tell us about Indian capacity as a nuclear state? How do you see India-Pakistan relations in 2050?

00:00 Introduction
00:32 India of today
02:33 India’s governance
04:45 Congress and BJP
07:42 Is India a superpower?
11:03 China as a threat to India
14:15 India vs China
15:57 Future of India-China relations
17:29 The Quad
21:19 Bipolar world order
26:44 Pak-China economic development
36:22 India-U.S. relations
41:46 Russia-Ukraine War and India-Russia relations
47:49 BRICS summit
51:09 Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan
57:19 India-Pakistan trade
59:54 India-Pakistan relations in 2050
01:00:57 Conclusion


@ghazi52 @araz @The Eagle @The Accountant @That Guy @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Imran Khan @PAKISTANFOREVER @waz @Windjammer @WinterFangs @KaiserX @niaz @farok84 @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @MastanKhan @krash @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Cookie Monster @Bratva @Foxtrot Alpha @Rafael @Rafi @Trango Towers @TNT @Indus Pakistan @Falcon26 @Norwegian @LeGenD @Iltutmish @notorious_eagle @Akh1112 @mingle @Dazzler @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Tipu7 @Horus @Ark_Angel @SQ8 @Goenitz @messiach @TaimiKhan @SecularNationalist @farok84 @Blacklight @Meengla @Ahmet Pasha @White and Green with M/S @Dalit @ARMalik @Sainthood 101 @Zibago @Jango @untitled @Reichsmarschall @Bleek @Dual Wielder @Smoke @RescueRanger @Trango Towers @Asimzranger @FuturePAF @Imad.Khan @tower9 @Joe Shearer @jamahir @Wood @SuvarnaTeja @Syama Ayas @Sudarshan
I felt astonished, then almost agonised, to hear the first question, asking that India should be explained to the ordinary Pakistani.

You took your time to ask, didn't you? We bent over backwards to be good neighbours for 67 years; the minute some scumbags come to power, because the Indian liberals took it for granted that mental development is linear and irreversible, Pakistan suddenly wakes up and asks itself collectively, "What is India all about?"

Oh, wow.
 
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India’s Relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., Russia Ft. Pravin Sawhney



In conversation with Pravin Sawhney, Editor Force Magazine, this episode of The Pakistan Pivot discusses India’s politics, foreign policy, and global world order. It explains India’s relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., and Russia. What is the India of today? How is India governed? Is Congress no longer a part of Indian politics? Can India become a regional and superpower? What is India’s foreign policy? Why does India see China as a threat and compete with it rather than as a partner for cooperation? What is the Quad doing about the Indo-Pacific and how does India view the group? Where is the world order headed? What is BRI’s flagship project CPEC doing? What are India-U.S. relations? What are India-Russia relations? What does the Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan tell us about Indian capacity as a nuclear state? How do you see India-Pakistan relations in 2050?

00:00 Introduction
00:32 India of today
02:33 India’s governance
04:45 Congress and BJP
07:42 Is India a superpower?
11:03 China as a threat to India
14:15 India vs China
15:57 Future of India-China relations
17:29 The Quad
21:19 Bipolar world order
26:44 Pak-China economic development
36:22 India-U.S. relations
41:46 Russia-Ukraine War and India-Russia relations
47:49 BRICS summit
51:09 Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan
57:19 India-Pakistan trade
59:54 India-Pakistan relations in 2050
01:00:57 Conclusion


@ghazi52 @araz @The Eagle @The Accountant @That Guy @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Imran Khan @PAKISTANFOREVER @waz @Windjammer @WinterFangs @KaiserX @niaz @farok84 @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @MastanKhan @krash @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Cookie Monster @Bratva @Foxtrot Alpha @Rafael @Rafi @Trango Towers @TNT @Indus Pakistan @Falcon26 @Norwegian @LeGenD @Iltutmish @notorious_eagle @Akh1112 @mingle @Dazzler @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Tipu7 @Horus @Ark_Angel @SQ8 @Goenitz @messiach @TaimiKhan @SecularNationalist @farok84 @Blacklight @Meengla @Ahmet Pasha @White and Green with M/S @Dalit @ARMalik @Sainthood 101 @Zibago @Jango @untitled @Reichsmarschall @Bleek @Dual Wielder @Smoke @RescueRanger @Trango Towers @Asimzranger @FuturePAF @Imad.Khan @tower9 @Joe Shearer @jamahir @Wood @SuvarnaTeja @Syama Ayas @Sudarshan
Pravin Sawhny's answer to that first question is beyond brilliant.

NO PAKISTANI, NOT A SINGLE ONE, IN AND OUT OF PDF, has any CLUE about the diversity of India. You just won't get it. It's impossible.

And yes, we stayed together because our initial leadership was outstanding. Beyond anything that the present-day scum will either understand, or will admit.
 
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We bent over backwards to be good neighbours for 67 years; the minute some scumbags come to power

Indian policy right after partition was to convince Pakistan to relinquish it's sovereignty and return to its fold. I know Nehru was using Kashmir for this goal up until the 1960s so that's already ~10 years we can deduct from those 67 years. Also maybe deduct the years in the run-up to 1971 and then maybe yes, that is the time period where India was satisfied with coexisting alongside Pakistan, having reduced it to a weaker and lesser power.
 
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India’s Relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., Russia Ft. Pravin Sawhney



In conversation with Pravin Sawhney, Editor Force Magazine, this episode of The Pakistan Pivot discusses India’s politics, foreign policy, and global world order. It explains India’s relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., and Russia. What is the India of today? How is India governed? Is Congress no longer a part of Indian politics? Can India become a regional and superpower? What is India’s foreign policy? Why does India see China as a threat and compete with it rather than as a partner for cooperation? What is the Quad doing about the Indo-Pacific and how does India view the group? Where is the world order headed? What is BRI’s flagship project CPEC doing? What are India-U.S. relations? What are India-Russia relations? What does the Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan tell us about Indian capacity as a nuclear state? How do you see India-Pakistan relations in 2050?

00:00 Introduction
00:32 India of today
02:33 India’s governance
04:45 Congress and BJP
07:42 Is India a superpower?
11:03 China as a threat to India
14:15 India vs China
15:57 Future of India-China relations
17:29 The Quad
21:19 Bipolar world order
26:44 Pak-China economic development
36:22 India-U.S. relations
41:46 Russia-Ukraine War and India-Russia relations
47:49 BRICS summit
51:09 Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan
57:19 India-Pakistan trade
59:54 India-Pakistan relations in 2050
01:00:57 Conclusion


@ghazi52 @araz @The Eagle @The Accountant @That Guy @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Imran Khan @PAKISTANFOREVER @waz @Windjammer @WinterFangs @KaiserX @niaz @farok84 @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @MastanKhan @krash @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Cookie Monster @Bratva @Foxtrot Alpha @Rafael @Rafi @Trango Towers @TNT @Indus Pakistan @Falcon26 @Norwegian @LeGenD @Iltutmish @notorious_eagle @Akh1112 @mingle @Dazzler @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Tipu7 @Horus @Ark_Angel @SQ8 @Goenitz @messiach @TaimiKhan @SecularNationalist @farok84 @Blacklight @Meengla @Ahmet Pasha @White and Green with M/S @Dalit @ARMalik @Sainthood 101 @Zibago @Jango @untitled @Reichsmarschall @Bleek @Dual Wielder @Smoke @RescueRanger @Trango Towers @Asimzranger @FuturePAF @Imad.Khan @tower9 @Joe Shearer @jamahir @Wood @SuvarnaTeja @Syama Ayas @Sudarshan
Again, he's right on target when he says that many of us are despondent about the turn things have taken, but continue to hope that it will not deviate too far from the original.

Indian policy right after partition was to convince Pakistan to relinquish it's sovereignty and return to its fold. I know Nehru was using Kashmir for this goal up until the 1960s so that's already ~10 years we can deduct from those 67 years. Also maybe deduct the years in the run-up to 1971 and then maybe yes, that is the time period where India was satisfied with coexisting alongside Pakistan, having reduced it to a weaker and lesser power.
This is the kind of reaction that convinces me that some people should not be allowed out without a minder.

India’s Relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., Russia Ft. Pravin Sawhney



In conversation with Pravin Sawhney, Editor Force Magazine, this episode of The Pakistan Pivot discusses India’s politics, foreign policy, and global world order. It explains India’s relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., and Russia. What is the India of today? How is India governed? Is Congress no longer a part of Indian politics? Can India become a regional and superpower? What is India’s foreign policy? Why does India see China as a threat and compete with it rather than as a partner for cooperation? What is the Quad doing about the Indo-Pacific and how does India view the group? Where is the world order headed? What is BRI’s flagship project CPEC doing? What are India-U.S. relations? What are India-Russia relations? What does the Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan tell us about Indian capacity as a nuclear state? How do you see India-Pakistan relations in 2050?

00:00 Introduction
00:32 India of today
02:33 India’s governance
04:45 Congress and BJP
07:42 Is India a superpower?
11:03 China as a threat to India
14:15 India vs China
15:57 Future of India-China relations
17:29 The Quad
21:19 Bipolar world order
26:44 Pak-China economic development
36:22 India-U.S. relations
41:46 Russia-Ukraine War and India-Russia relations
47:49 BRICS summit
51:09 Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan
57:19 India-Pakistan trade
59:54 India-Pakistan relations in 2050
01:00:57 Conclusion


@ghazi52 @araz @The Eagle @The Accountant @That Guy @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Imran Khan @PAKISTANFOREVER @waz @Windjammer @WinterFangs @KaiserX @niaz @farok84 @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @MastanKhan @krash @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Cookie Monster @Bratva @Foxtrot Alpha @Rafael @Rafi @Trango Towers @TNT @Indus Pakistan @Falcon26 @Norwegian @LeGenD @Iltutmish @notorious_eagle @Akh1112 @mingle @Dazzler @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Tipu7 @Horus @Ark_Angel @SQ8 @Goenitz @messiach @TaimiKhan @SecularNationalist @farok84 @Blacklight @Meengla @Ahmet Pasha @White and Green with M/S @Dalit @ARMalik @Sainthood 101 @Zibago @Jango @untitled @Reichsmarschall @Bleek @Dual Wielder @Smoke @RescueRanger @Trango Towers @Asimzranger @FuturePAF @Imad.Khan @tower9 @Joe Shearer @jamahir @Wood @SuvarnaTeja @Syama Ayas @Sudarshan
We don't want a strong centre. We want powerful states, and powerful regions. Again, one more very good point.

The man is sounding more and more rational.
 
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Jokes aside he is the only clever sane Indian left in the population of 1.2 billion. Rest are just like you. He is more patriotic and useful to India than you. The reality is that you are not ready to swallow that bitter pill.
I am glad he came to my city and I want to personally welcome him with open arms. I know he is a patriotic indian so what that doesn't bother me as long as he is not a mad dog like RSS , BJP and indians who follow such ideology.
Are you feeling well? You just expressed liking for an Indian.

India’s Relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., Russia Ft. Pravin Sawhney



In conversation with Pravin Sawhney, Editor Force Magazine, this episode of The Pakistan Pivot discusses India’s politics, foreign policy, and global world order. It explains India’s relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., and Russia. What is the India of today? How is India governed? Is Congress no longer a part of Indian politics? Can India become a regional and superpower? What is India’s foreign policy? Why does India see China as a threat and compete with it rather than as a partner for cooperation? What is the Quad doing about the Indo-Pacific and how does India view the group? Where is the world order headed? What is BRI’s flagship project CPEC doing? What are India-U.S. relations? What are India-Russia relations? What does the Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan tell us about Indian capacity as a nuclear state? How do you see India-Pakistan relations in 2050?

00:00 Introduction
00:32 India of today
02:33 India’s governance
04:45 Congress and BJP
07:42 Is India a superpower?
11:03 China as a threat to India
14:15 India vs China
15:57 Future of India-China relations
17:29 The Quad
21:19 Bipolar world order
26:44 Pak-China economic development
36:22 India-U.S. relations
41:46 Russia-Ukraine War and India-Russia relations
47:49 BRICS summit
51:09 Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan
57:19 India-Pakistan trade
59:54 India-Pakistan relations in 2050
01:00:57 Conclusion


@ghazi52 @araz @The Eagle @The Accountant @That Guy @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Imran Khan @PAKISTANFOREVER @waz @Windjammer @WinterFangs @KaiserX @niaz @farok84 @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @MastanKhan @krash @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Cookie Monster @Bratva @Foxtrot Alpha @Rafael @Rafi @Trango Towers @TNT @Indus Pakistan @Falcon26 @Norwegian @LeGenD @Iltutmish @notorious_eagle @Akh1112 @mingle @Dazzler @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Tipu7 @Horus @Ark_Angel @SQ8 @Goenitz @messiach @TaimiKhan @SecularNationalist @farok84 @Blacklight @Meengla @Ahmet Pasha @White and Green with M/S @Dalit @ARMalik @Sainthood 101 @Zibago @Jango @untitled @Reichsmarschall @Bleek @Dual Wielder @Smoke @RescueRanger @Trango Towers @Asimzranger @FuturePAF @Imad.Khan @tower9 @Joe Shearer @jamahir @Wood @SuvarnaTeja @Syama Ayas @Sudarshan
Yet another home truth. Why are we still potential? Like Brazil, perpetually the great power of tomorrow, never the great power of today. Why do our kids do so well abroad, and why do we still continue to flounder as a country?
 
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India’s Relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., Russia Ft. Pravin Sawhney



In conversation with Pravin Sawhney, Editor Force Magazine, this episode of The Pakistan Pivot discusses India’s politics, foreign policy, and global world order. It explains India’s relations with Pakistan, China, U.S., and Russia. What is the India of today? How is India governed? Is Congress no longer a part of Indian politics? Can India become a regional and superpower? What is India’s foreign policy? Why does India see China as a threat and compete with it rather than as a partner for cooperation? What is the Quad doing about the Indo-Pacific and how does India view the group? Where is the world order headed? What is BRI’s flagship project CPEC doing? What are India-U.S. relations? What are India-Russia relations? What does the Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan tell us about Indian capacity as a nuclear state? How do you see India-Pakistan relations in 2050?

00:00 Introduction
00:32 India of today
02:33 India’s governance
04:45 Congress and BJP
07:42 Is India a superpower?
11:03 China as a threat to India
14:15 India vs China
15:57 Future of India-China relations
17:29 The Quad
21:19 Bipolar world order
26:44 Pak-China economic development
36:22 India-U.S. relations
41:46 Russia-Ukraine War and India-Russia relations
47:49 BRICS summit
51:09 Indian Missile Launch into Pakistan
57:19 India-Pakistan trade
59:54 India-Pakistan relations in 2050
01:00:57 Conclusion


@ghazi52 @araz @The Eagle @The Accountant @That Guy @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Imran Khan @PAKISTANFOREVER @waz @Windjammer @WinterFangs @KaiserX @niaz @farok84 @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @MastanKhan @krash @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Cookie Monster @Bratva @Foxtrot Alpha @Rafael @Rafi @Trango Towers @TNT @Indus Pakistan @Falcon26 @Norwegian @LeGenD @Iltutmish @notorious_eagle @Akh1112 @mingle @Dazzler @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Tipu7 @Horus @Ark_Angel @SQ8 @Goenitz @messiach @TaimiKhan @SecularNationalist @farok84 @Blacklight @Meengla @Ahmet Pasha @White and Green with M/S @Dalit @ARMalik @Sainthood 101 @Zibago @Jango @untitled @Reichsmarschall @Bleek @Dual Wielder @Smoke @RescueRanger @Trango Towers @Asimzranger @FuturePAF @Imad.Khan @tower9 @Joe Shearer @jamahir @Wood @SuvarnaTeja @Syama Ayas @Sudarshan
"I respect your religion,....even if you don't respect my religion, that does not change my stand. I will stand on my principles notwithstanding your responses."

I have a liking for every peace loving,progressive open minded indian who is not brainwashed and well aware of the truth.
Thanks. Good luck with your search. The rest of us can safely continue with our war-loving, regressive, closed minded ways, filling all 28 hours of the day with dreaming up conspiracies about what can be peddled as the truth.
 
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This is a feel good moment for PDF Pakistanis in this tough time as their favourite defense analyst is in Pakistan. We rarely see any Indian analyst in Pakistan discussing about anything.
Please take him to your nuclear sites too to get more intelligent analysis.
He thinks Iran is in the East and India on the West. If that is the quality of analysts India produces no wonder India gets hammered by the Chinese. Bottom line is Pakistan doesn't need India and India doesn't need Pakistan but it would be beneficial to both if they cooperated economically through connectivity and trade. I posted a few years back no matter how much "Nakhray" India will do today they will eventually join CPEC. India is dreaming of many ways to encroach on or grab CPEC but they will fail , as he accepted Pakistan is militarily too strong.

To keep regional countries happy the name can be changed to "regional economic corridor" or the "Asia economic corridor" the impact will be to create the greatest trade block in human history and the shifting of economic and military power from the West to the East. Respect his analysis and opinions but didn't like his condescending comment that India was competing with Pakistan and should have been competing with China. Pakistan can say the same thing about India , Pakistan should have been competing with the US and not India.

Just goes to show how brilliant Pakistani strategists were who saw the mutual benefits with China of CPEC in circa 2005 and helped establish one of the most remarkable ventures in human history connecting China, Pakistan, Central Asia and the middle East.
 
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Thanks. Good luck with your search. The rest of us can safely continue with our war-loving, regressive, closed minded ways, filling all 28 hours of the day with dreaming up conspiracies about what can be peddled as the truth.
Sshhhhh 🔇 😶 "The rest of US" don't lose your stealth man :lol:
 
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Sshhhhh 🔇 😶 "The rest of US" don't lose your stealth man :lol:

He thinks Iran is in the East and India on the West.
He thought nothing of the kind.

He said that the west is blocked, and therefore India is the only open passage.

You need to listen carefully.
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He spoke very well.

I found myself in agreement with 80% of what he thought. Really clear, logical thought.
 
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He spoke very well.

I found myself in agreement with 80% of what he thought. Really clear, logical thought
Yup. he conveyed his thougts in a well knitted manner with logic/data. If you agree with him 80 %, then its you
Anyway, he said India should have taken China as reference as pop, area etc szie was similar to that. @khansaheeb
So their small ambitions have kept them back. Like, our maximum aim is sarkari naukri, and then just retired after 30 years of 9-5 routine.
 
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