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India’s northeast militants gaining strength

my Assamese friends tell me indeed ulfa was supported at some point by common people.......
but when they started killing these common people they stop supporting them ........may be he was lying then :tsk:
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ok ....but then why bangldeshi wants to capture NE .......when they despise india same will done to bdi also..then why bangladeshi still see the dream of taking NE ?

ohh....may be they want it ....then drive out the indigenous people into india or burma and then have islamic greater bangladesh

and people say certain religion is not expansionist

They want more land lol Bangladesh is sinking or so I have heard.
 
didn't expect anythng less. :D

This lungi 500 is a certified Jamati but nobody could match Lallu Miah when it comes to fantasy. He even annoyed the Arab/Iranian Shia members on this forum. :crazy::crazy:

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India’s Home Minister Rajnath will visit Assam next week in a bid to expedite the peace process with pro-talks factions of separatist outfits of northeast India. Peace talks held occasionally continued for years raising mistrust and giving birth of fresh groups of militants fighting for independence from India. Maoist insurgents have joined the hardliners fading out the hopes of peace. The Modi government felt the urgency for resolving the problem amid reports that the outfits based in camps along the border with Myanmar were receiving external support.

Reports trickled down from across the border said the Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland (NSCN) and United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA), the main militant outfits, have made it clear they will not comprise on question of independence. Pro-talks made of leaders captured by the government viewed that peace-talks is a ploy of Delhi to buy time and close in on the militant groups continued fighting.

NSCN fighting since 1960s
NSCN, the oldest party that fought fierce battle with government forces in ’60s, said Nagas will neither accept the Indian constitution nor be a part of Indian Union. Nagaland was never a part of India either through conquest or by consent of Nagas. India and Nagaland must be two separate countries. It, India. In that event also should in case another country attacks Nagaland, India may come to its aid because if Nagaland is in danger from an external force it would be a threat to India too. But Nagaland would have no obligation to come to India’s aid if it is attacked by another country.
Thinoselie Keyho, a veteran of NSCN and former Lt General of Naga Liberation Army pointing to activities of the hardliners group had said, “You must prepare to fight for peace.”
The other separatist outfits active in the northeast Indian states are National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) of Assam, United National Front and Maoist Communist Party of Manipur, All Tripura Tiger Force of Tripura and Garo National Liberation Army of Meghalaya. They have expressed identical stand with NSCN. In Mizoram, the tribes were united under the banner of Mizo National Front (MNF) that started claiming independence early in 1960 and declared independence in February 1968. Indian army suppressed them and forced the outfit to go underground.
Northeast India is inhabited by Mongolian tribes who have close ethnic and cultural ties with tribes of China, Tibet and Burma. Baring Khasias and Jaintias of Meghalaya almost all hill tribes belong to Tibet-Chinese fold and to Tibet-Burma family. They are culturally, ethnically and linguistically different from people of all other states of India.

Genesis of Nagaland movement
Nagaland has suffered the most and endured ordeals in its long history of fight for independence. Its tribes had been conquered and ruled by the British. With the fall of British Raj, Nagaland celebrated the Independence Day on August 14, 1947. Gandhi supported their desire for independence. But centrally controlled enthusiastic Pandit Nehru pounded the table saying Nagaland would not be given independence even if the sky falls on earth. He sent the army that had ruthlessly suppressed the Nagas.
Speaking about the genesis of Naga movement, octogenarian Thinoselie Keyho had said exposed to the nationalistic fervour that gripped Europe during World War I, Naga workers returning from France took the first step towards creating a unified identity by forming the Naga Club (NC) in 1918. As cohesiveness grew among the 16 Naga tribes, the NC gave way to the Naga National Council (later renamed as Nation Socialist Council of Nagaland) under whose leadership started the movement. For more than six decades they have been struggling for freedom. But the battle is not over yet.
Thinoselie Keyho, one of the driving forces of the NSCN was in Delhi’s Tihar Jail for four years in the ‘70s. Citing an instance woes of Nagas he said Assam Rifles came to his village and killed two Gao Buras (village leaders). They tied them and put them on display at the village square. The troop leader mocked them as they lay there dead, tied to a bamboo pole. He warned us that we would suffer the same fate.

Northeast rebels appear firm
Such cruel incidents angered instead of discouraging them. The tribal had to avenge the deaths of fellow tribal. Failing to hold the first national elections in Nagaland as Nagas totally boycotted the polls, the government launched the war on Nagas. India offered general amnesty in 157-58 and used peace talks to buy time to close in on the rebels. But before they could do it a group of 300 rebels under the leadership of Issac Muivah went to China in 1968 seeking assistance to their war of independence.
They reached China after three months of arduous journey. When reached near the Hokan Valley in Burma, the Kochin Independence Army took them to the Chinese border camp. The Chinese were surprised. They kept Naga rebels in the camp for 10 days, waiting for the translators to arrive. It was tough to communicate before that because no one spoke English. Once the translators came the Naga rebels explained their purpose. The Chinese took them to the barracks and trained them in combat, taught military strategy and also gave political and psychosocial training.
Gen Thinoselie led half of the group back home while Muivah stayed. Armed with AKs (Naga rebels were the first to have AKs in India) their morale was high as they were better trained and equipped. They numbering 60 were once surrounded by 2,000 Indian troops. Naga rebels inflicted heavy losses to the Indian Army, around 300 troops were killed.
The peace talks are unlikely to achieve tangible result as the spirit of the militant groups continuing the fight for independence with external support.

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My GOD, jeez...... i knew India had issues with its northeast, but never knew the problem was this serious. :o:
So these groups are basically armed rebels/militias who even control some remote regions. Im surprised since i have hardly ever seen widespread coverage about this in our media unlike the frequent news about militas/rebels/armed groups in Middle east, Africa and even Russia(Chechenya) etc.

Well India should be careful not to side against us in the coming decade, since we can also use their seperatists/armed groups against them(call it propaganda if you want, who cares).:D:P So choose wisely(dont make the same mistake you made during the cold war, which slowed down Indias growth/open up) and sideline your old Patron Russia, for better relationship/alliance with us, since we(West/U.S) can offer you more..:bounce::cheers:
 
They want more land lol Bangladesh is sinking or so I have heard.
:lol::lol::lol: they always forget ganga and testa flow through india

My GOD, jeez...... i knew India had issues with its northeast, but never knew the problem was this serious. :o:
So these groups are basically armed rebels/militias who even control some remote regions. Im surprised since i have hardly ever seen widespread coverage about this in our media unlike the frequent news about militas/rebels/armed groups in Middle east, Africa and even Russia(Chechenya) etc.

Well India should be careful not to side against us in the coming decade, since we can also use their seperatists/armed groups against them(call it propaganda if you want, who cares).:D:P So choose wisely(dont make the same mistake you made during the cold war, which slowed down Indias growth/open up) and sideline your old Patron Russia, for better relationship/alliance with us, since we(West/U.S) can offer you more..:bounce::cheers:
lol .....india is not syria
secondly if its proofed that rebels are indeed supported by us/uk like isis ....nothing body can stop security establishment
not human rights, not sickulars not even left wing party
 
:lol::lol::lol: they always forget ganga and testa flow through india


lol .....india is not syria
secondly if its proofed that rebels are indeed supported by us/uk like isis ....nothing body can stop security establishment
not human rights, not sickulars not even left wing party

LOOL calm down/chill bro. We are not going to support these armed groups(well not for now :D). India is still not anti western in its foreign policy like Russia , China, Iran etc and India doesnt sees us as a threat either. So we have no issues with you for now(though our governments are a little bit uneasy with your support for your old patron Russia, however, even this is changing as we improve our trade and military relations with you visn a vis Russia.:agree:), plus India is still not a big power/strong enough. So we dont have any need to support/give media coverage(call it propaganda if you want.lol) to these groups in our medias for now, unlike say with China(whose own uigurs are just some bunch of people looking for knives to chopped off people randomly, so not that serious like armed groups),Russia(chechens armed groups), Iran(labeled a 'terrorist state alias axis of evil'):D:P, Cuba(embargoes, dictatorial communist evil country.:azn:), etc....

So don't understimate our media/government power/influence. we can sure make things alot worse for India if we really want, believe me. So India will do well not to side against us in coming decades, it might spell trouble for it. Well not untill it has surpassed us in all fields, then it can afford to turn against us. but for now, you have to remain docile/conciliatory and keep playimng both sides at best.:cheers:
 
..wonder why writing anti-India fiction stories give orgasm to 'mad dog' brigade...:crazy:
.....Assam will soon take steps to get rid of illigal bangladesi pests....
Is this the reason ..u r pissed about ???:coffee:

7 seats in the Loka Sabha elections are an indication. How ever saying that it will be difficult in state elections where the constituency becomes smaller furthermore most Indian votes gets divided into parties like AGP, BJP, CONG-I...whereas the Bangladeshi votes consolidated and goes to Azmal cha cha (AIUDF).

The only way to eradicate these pests from the state is by selective extermination.
 
Weekly holiday :lol: lmao a paper published by "Islamic Council for cooperation"

:lol::lol::lol: they always forget ganga and testa flow through india


lol .....india is not syria
secondly if its proofed that rebels are indeed supported by us/uk like isis ....nothing body can stop security establishment
not human rights, not sickulars not even left wing party

He should look at the situation in his own country, that keeps the scots brutally oppressed. Plus rising islamization that will probably make the UK an islamic country soon :lol:
You are now entering Sharia law Britain: As Islamic extremists declare a Sharia law zone in a London suburb, there are worrying social and moral implications | Daily Mail Online
 
Having been a part of the Naga people’s movement from the start, what do you feel when you see Nagaland today?
Earlier, the Nagas were described as sincere, hardworking and honest people. Where are those qualities today? Nagaland has become a spoilt child; corruption and laziness are rampant and the Indian government supports this. When officials come from India, they are bluffed by the local officials. Even if 50 percent of what the Indian government gives to Nagaland is utilised effectively, we would be one of the most developed states in the country. Instead, we have 300-400 crorepatis awash in corrupt money. Corruption is not restricted to government officials and politicians, but it has crept into our boys as well.

What is the next step for Nagaland?
We can only move forward once the different factions (NSCN-IM, NSCN-K, NNC and FGN) resolve their differences. The summit for reconciliation held on 18 September is misleading. It was not inclusive and the groups are now voicing their reservations. I don’t know if this unity will last. We all need to sit together and have a face-to-face talk. A lot of blood has been shed and a lot of ill will has been created. We can never forget, but we have to forgive, whether we like it or not. India will take us seriously only if we are united and sincere. If the Indian government sees Nagaland as a political problem, then please send politicians, not the military. The army is taught to fight, kill and destroy, not to build. India has to be sincere in its efforts. The Nagas may be confused, but Delhi is even worse.

@Luffy 500 see General Thinoselie Keyho talks about rising Naga resurgence today :lol:

Tehelka - India's Independent Weekly News Magazine
 
i don't know if it is bad to say, but it is true they are closer to china than they will ever be to india
from ncbi:
Northeastern populations showed genetic affinity with Mongoloids from southeast Asia. When genetic distances were calculated, we found the north Indians and northeastern populations to be markedly unrelated.
 
7 seats in the Loka Sabha elections are an indication. How ever saying that it will be difficult in state elections where the constituency becomes smaller furthermore most Indian votes gets divided into parties like AGP, BJP, CONG-I...whereas the Bangladeshi votes consolidated and goes to Azmal cha cha (AIUDF).

The only way to eradicate these pests from the state is by selective extermination.
very sinister plan.
but can become a cruel reality for illegal BDs,,,imagine army n paramilitary departs from NE,,,,,i give 1month at most to those poor illegals
 
Having been a part of the Naga people’s movement from the start, what do you feel when you see Nagaland today?
Earlier, the Nagas were described as sincere, hardworking and honest people. Where are those qualities today? Nagaland has become a spoilt child; corruption and laziness are rampant and the Indian government supports this. When officials come from India, they are bluffed by the local officials. Even if 50 percent of what the Indian government gives to Nagaland is utilised effectively, we would be one of the most developed states in the country. Instead, we have 300-400 crorepatis awash in corrupt money. Corruption is not restricted to government officials and politicians, but it has crept into our boys as well.

What is the next step for Nagaland?
We can only move forward once the different factions (NSCN-IM, NSCN-K, NNC and FGN) resolve their differences. The summit for reconciliation held on 18 September is misleading. It was not inclusive and the groups are now voicing their reservations. I don’t know if this unity will last. We all need to sit together and have a face-to-face talk. A lot of blood has been shed and a lot of ill will has been created. We can never forget, but we have to forgive, whether we like it or not. India will take us seriously only if we are united and sincere. If the Indian government sees Nagaland as a political problem, then please send politicians, not the military. The army is taught to fight, kill and destroy, not to build. India has to be sincere in its efforts. The Nagas may be confused, but Delhi is even worse.

@Luffy 500 see General Thinoselie Keyho talks about rising Naga resurgence today :lol:

Tehelka - India's Independent Weekly News Magazine

India should make all the efforts to resolve the difference peacefully, by sitting with all the factions understanding their grievances and sincerely working to solve them.

But talks will not be much useful unless we crush such type of armed rebellion brutally. Give armed forces and Intelligence agency free hand to shoot them , may be conduct some clandestine operations inside and outside country.Let them fight terrorists like terrorists.
 
Before 4years, ULFA collected tax from transport vehicles in their check posts and even they have given receipts which can be shown at the next check post. I know this personally since my cousin runs transport business. Still such tax collection exists in Assam? Can someone from NE shed some light?
 
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Before 4years, ULFA collected tax from transport vehicles in their check posts, I know this personally since my cousin runs transport business. Still such tax collection exists in Assam? Can someone from NE shed some light?
still exists,,,,but u r wrong about them being ULFA militants..
99% chances of them being Surrendered ulfa,they r into all kinds of illegal activities,well most of them atleast,,,congress govt. allowed them to surrender(started in early 90's),they also provided them fire arms for self defence,,,but in turn they repay Assam by further propagating corruption n gundaraj.shameless ppl
 
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