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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...deadly-china-and-pakistan-should-worry-124671

by Kyle Mizokami


Key point: India is faced on two sides by powerful, nuclear-armed countries it has fought wars with—China and Pakistan.


India occupies one of the most strategically important locations in the world. A short distance from the Persian Gulf, Central Asia and Southeast Asia, India has been an important hub for ideas, trade and religion for thousands of years.


That geographic positioning has its disadvantages. India is faced on two sides by powerful, nuclear-armed countries it has fought wars with—China and Pakistan.

India’s most formidable rival is China, with whom it fought a short, sharp border war with in 1962. China’s growing military has transformed it from a mainly ground-based threat to a multifaceted one with powerful assets in the air, at sea and even in space.

India’s second most powerful rival is Pakistan, which was also part of the British Raj. India and Pakistan have fought four wars since 1947, and frequently appear on the verge of a fifth.


Complicating matters for India, the two countries are allies. Advances in military technology mean India’s large reserves of manpower are no longer as useful as they once were, and India will need to favor the former over the latter if it wants to match—and deter—Chinese and Pakistani forces.

AH-64D Apache Longbow Block III Attack Helicopter


Indian selection of the AH-64D Apache as its future attack helicopter is a prime example of technology over manpower. The Apache’s versatility means that it will be able to do everything from engage tank formations in a conventional war to hunt guerrillas in a counterinsurgency operation.

The heavily armed, fast-moving Apache can counter a number of land-based threats to India, sensing enemy armored vehicles with its mast-mounted millimeter-wave radar and destroying them with Hellfire missiles, Hydra-70 anti-armor rockets and a 30mm chain gun. The helicopter can also detect insurgents under heavy cover using its thermal imaging sensor and engage them with anti-personnel rockets or the 30mm chain gun.

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Unlike other attack helicopters, the Apache has a proven combat record, destroying armor in Iraq and decimating Taliban hiding in the hillsides of Afghanistan.

INS Vikramaditya Aircraft Carrier

Commissioned in November 2013, INS Vikramaditya is India’s newest aircraft carrier and the only aircraft carrier that calls the Indian Ocean home. In the event of war, Vikramaditya will be used to blockade Karachi, Pakistan’s largest port, or sever China’s economic lifeline to the Persian Gulf and beyond.

Vikramaditya is 282 meters long and displaces 44,000 tons, making her about 20 percent smaller than China’s aircraft carrier Liaoning. Unlike Liaoning, however, she is a fully operational carrier, with an air wing capable of executing air superiority, anti-surface, anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare. The carrier air wing is expected to consist of twenty-four MiG-29K or Tejas multirole fighters and ten anti-submarine warfare helicopters. India has ordered forty-five MiG-29Ks.


Vikramaditya will operate as the centerpiece of a full carrier battle group, protected by the new Kolkata air-defense destroyers. A further two carriers of indigenous designs are planned, bringing India’s total carrier force to three.

BrahMos Anti-Ship Missile

A joint Indian-Russian project, BrahMos is a short-range supersonic cruise missile capable of being launched from a wide variety of platforms. BrahMos is one of the most advanced missiles in the world, capable of hitting targets on land and at sea with precision. The versatility of BrahMos means it could equally target enemy ships and terrorist training camps with ease.

A ramjet propels BrahMos to speeds of up to Mach 3, or 1,020 meters a second. The anti-ship version is a so-called “sea skimmer,” flying just over the wavetops to give enemies as little as 35 seconds’ warning time.

Depending on the variant and method of launch, BrahMos is armed with a 440-660 pound penetrating high explosive warhead and has a range of 186-310 miles.

The combination of speed and hitting power makes BrahMos a particular concern to the Pakistani Navy, whose surface ships lack adequate area air defenses. Even the Chinese Navy will find BrahMos formidable, as it would face the daunting prospect of a Mach 3 missile threat launched by aircraft, coastal defense batteries, destroyers and submarines.

Su-30MKI Fighter

One of India’s newest fighters is an updated design dating back to the late 1970s. An evolution of the Su-27 Flanker, the Su-30MKI has been extensively upgraded, and the result is a long-range, twin-engine fighter with a powerful radar and amazing twelve hard points for the attachment of weapons.


The Su-30MKI’s air-to-air armament includes R-73 infrared guided missiles and R-77 and R-27 radar-guided missiles. Of particular interest is the upcoming Novator K-100 “AWACS killer” missile, capable of engaging targets at up to 300 to 400 kilometers. Against targets on the ground, the Su-30MKI can employ laser-guided bombs, Kh-59 standoff land-attack missiles and the BrahMos missile.

The Indian Air Force has 200 Su-30MKIs air superiority fighters in service with another seventy-two on order. A portion of the IAF’s Su-30MKI force has been modified by Israel for the strategic reconnaissance role.

INS Chakra Nuclear Attack Submarine

India’s first nuclear attack submarine, INS Chakra, started life as a Russian Navy submarine funded to completion by the Indian Navy in return for a ten-year lease.

Based on the Soviet Union’s Akula II class, Chakra displaces 8,000 tons, making it more than twice as large as any of India’s German-made Type 209 or Russia Kilo class submarines. It can sustain a speed of 30 knots submerged and can dive to a depth of 520 meters. The submarine has eight submarine tubes enabling it to launch regular homing torpedoes, Kh-55 “Granat” cruise missiles, and “Shkval” supercavitating torpedoes, capable of traveling at 220 knots to ranges of 15 kilometers.

As a nuclear submarine, Chakra will be able to spend prolonged periods underwater, making it difficult to detect. During wartime, the advanced submarine will go after high value targets, such as Pakistani submarines (possibly carrying nuclear-armed cruise missiles) and Chinese submarines, destroyers, aircraft carriers and submarines.

Kyle Mizokami is a writer based in San Francisco who has appeared in The Diplomat, Foreign Policy, War is Boring and The Daily Beast. In 2009 he co-founded the defense and security blog Japan Security Watch. This first appeared in 2015.
 
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...deadly-china-and-pakistan-should-worry-124671

by Kyle Mizokami


Key point: India is faced on two sides by powerful, nuclear-armed countries it has fought wars with—China and Pakistan.


India occupies one of the most strategically important locations in the world. A short distance from the Persian Gulf, Central Asia and Southeast Asia, India has been an important hub for ideas, trade and religion for thousands of years.


That geographic positioning has its disadvantages. India is faced on two sides by powerful, nuclear-armed countries it has fought wars with—China and Pakistan.

India’s most formidable rival is China, with whom it fought a short, sharp border war with in 1962. China’s growing military has transformed it from a mainly ground-based threat to a multifaceted one with powerful assets in the air, at sea and even in space.

India’s second most powerful rival is Pakistan, which was also part of the British Raj. India and Pakistan have fought four wars since 1947, and frequently appear on the verge of a fifth.


Complicating matters for India, the two countries are allies. Advances in military technology mean India’s large reserves of manpower are no longer as useful as they once were, and India will need to favor the former over the latter if it wants to match—and deter—Chinese and Pakistani forces.

AH-64D Apache Longbow Block III Attack Helicopter


Indian selection of the AH-64D Apache as its future attack helicopter is a prime example of technology over manpower. The Apache’s versatility means that it will be able to do everything from engage tank formations in a conventional war to hunt guerrillas in a counterinsurgency operation.

The heavily armed, fast-moving Apache can counter a number of land-based threats to India, sensing enemy armored vehicles with its mast-mounted millimeter-wave radar and destroying them with Hellfire missiles, Hydra-70 anti-armor rockets and a 30mm chain gun. The helicopter can also detect insurgents under heavy cover using its thermal imaging sensor and engage them with anti-personnel rockets or the 30mm chain gun.

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Unlike other attack helicopters, the Apache has a proven combat record, destroying armor in Iraq and decimating Taliban hiding in the hillsides of Afghanistan.

INS Vikramaditya Aircraft Carrier


Commissioned in November 2013, INS Vikramaditya is India’s newest aircraft carrier and the only aircraft carrier that calls the Indian Ocean home. In the event of war, Vikramaditya will be used to blockade Karachi, Pakistan’s largest port, or sever China’s economic lifeline to the Persian Gulf and beyond.

Vikramaditya is 282 meters long and displaces 44,000 tons, making her about 20 percent smaller than China’s aircraft carrier Liaoning. Unlike Liaoning, however, she is a fully operational carrier, with an air wing capable of executing air superiority, anti-surface, anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare. The carrier air wing is expected to consist of twenty-four MiG-29K or Tejas multirole fighters and ten anti-submarine warfare helicopters. India has ordered forty-five MiG-29Ks.


Vikramaditya will operate as the centerpiece of a full carrier battle group, protected by the new Kolkata air-defense destroyers. A further two carriers of indigenous designs are planned, bringing India’s total carrier force to three.

BrahMos Anti-Ship Missile


A joint Indian-Russian project, BrahMos is a short-range supersonic cruise missile capable of being launched from a wide variety of platforms. BrahMos is one of the most advanced missiles in the world, capable of hitting targets on land and at sea with precision. The versatility of BrahMos means it could equally target enemy ships and terrorist training camps with ease.

A ramjet propels BrahMos to speeds of up to Mach 3, or 1,020 meters a second. The anti-ship version is a so-called “sea skimmer,” flying just over the wavetops to give enemies as little as 35 seconds’ warning time.


Depending on the variant and method of launch, BrahMos is armed with a 440-660 pound penetrating high explosive warhead and has a range of 186-310 miles.

The combination of speed and hitting power makes BrahMos a particular concern to the Pakistani Navy, whose surface ships lack adequate area air defenses. Even the Chinese Navy will find BrahMos formidable, as it would face the daunting prospect of a Mach 3 missile threat launched by aircraft, coastal defense batteries, destroyers and submarines.


Su-30MKI Fighter

One of India’s newest fighters is an updated design dating back to the late 1970s. An evolution of the Su-27 Flanker, the Su-30MKI has been extensively upgraded, and the result is a long-range, twin-engine fighter with a powerful radar and amazing twelve hard points for the attachment of weapons.


The Su-30MKI’s air-to-air armament includes R-73 infrared guided missiles and R-77 and R-27 radar-guided missiles. Of particular interest is the upcoming Novator K-100 “AWACS killer” missile, capable of engaging targets at up to 300 to 400 kilometers. Against targets on the ground, the Su-30MKI can employ laser-guided bombs, Kh-59 standoff land-attack missiles and the BrahMos missile.


The Indian Air Force has 200 Su-30MKIs air superiority fighters in service with another seventy-two on order. A portion of the IAF’s Su-30MKI force has been modified by Israel for the strategic reconnaissance role.

INS Chakra Nuclear Attack Submarine

India’s first nuclear attack submarine, INS Chakra, started life as a Russian Navy submarine funded to completion by the Indian Navy in return for a ten-year lease.

Based on the Soviet Union’s Akula II class, Chakra displaces 8,000 tons, making it more than twice as large as any of India’s German-made Type 209 or Russia Kilo class submarines. It can sustain a speed of 30 knots submerged and can dive to a depth of 520 meters. The submarine has eight submarine tubes enabling it to launch regular homing torpedoes, Kh-55 “Granat” cruise missiles, and “Shkval” supercavitating torpedoes, capable of traveling at 220 knots to ranges of 15 kilometers.

As a nuclear submarine, Chakra will be able to spend prolonged periods underwater, making it difficult to detect. During wartime, the advanced submarine will go after high value targets, such as Pakistani submarines (possibly carrying nuclear-armed cruise missiles) and Chinese submarines, destroyers, aircraft carriers and submarines.

Kyle Mizokami is a writer based in San Francisco who has appeared in The Diplomat, Foreign Policy, War is Boring and The Daily Beast. In 2009 he co-founded the defense and security blog Japan Security Watch. This first appeared in 2015.

From the magazine that says JF-17 is mini F-35.
 
From the magazine that says JF-17 is mini F-35.

To be honest.
I myself wont agree that Pakistan or China should worry about India, Atleast now.
China is Miles Ahead of India. Pakistan can do a considerable Damage.

In effect,

Pakistan : India :: India : China

We are a good match for each other. What the article missed was the HUGE.. In-fact MASSIVE Economic Disparity between India and Pakistan, which is actually the strength and weakness of India and Pakistan respectively in the longer run.

Its The Money which decides, Defense Budget, Funding for Research and Ultimately the Purchases.
 
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India is certainly very powerful, but I don't think it can take on both countries. War with Pakistan alone will inflict such heavy damages that it will be too crippled to even think about facing China.
 
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To be honest.
I myself wont agree that Pakistan or China should worry about India, Atleast now.
China is Miles Ahead of India. Pakistan can do a considerable Damage.

In effect,

Pakistan : India :: India : China

We are a good match for each other. What the article missed was the HUGE.. In-fact MASSIVE Economic Disparity between India and pakistan, which is actually the strgth and weakness of India and Pakistan respectively in the longer run.

As long as there is no imminent war, all three are not to be worried. Even if China is ahead they know that India will be able deliver deadly blows and there won't be enough left. Same goes for India and Pakistan.

Infact this goes for the whole world, US knows they can take down China but the damage will be too much.
 
Why half of start of article sounds same as PM Imran Khan speech/interviews during UNSC visit last year? Just replaced the names & few words between sentences. It just reminds of IK's interviews as soon as I started to read. The copy paste journalist has to up his game. Apparently, he is just trying to market US weapons might & hates China more than Pakistan.

On a serious note: Look how retaliation changes their perception about the strength of Pakistan and are finally reduced to write articles & play big. From a fighting force term: We don't waste our energy as what an enemy can do but we will surely deliver whatever we can do.
 
Why half of start of article sounds same as PM Imran Khan speech/interviews during UNSC visit last year? Just replaced the names & few words between sentences. It just reminds of IK's interviews as soon as I started to read. The copy paste journalist has to up his game. Apparently, he is just trying to market US weapons might & hates China more than Pakistan.

On a serious note: Look how retaliation changes their perception about the strength of Pakistan and are finally reduced to write articles & play big. From a fighting force term: We don't waste our energy as what an enemy can do but we will surely deliver whatever we can do.

The author is a renowned thrash writer. His articles are always anti-China and anti-Pak. He is Jap thrash.
 
The author is a renowned thrash writer. His articles are always anti-China and anti-Pak. He is Jap trash.

Well, We always have some one who is anti India, Anti China or Anti Pakistan.... Even Anti US... so what ?
 
Well, We always have some one who is anti India, Anti China or Anti Pakistan.... Even Anti US... so what ?

At least when you post something, post a reputable source. Nationalinterest is a sensational source with little credibility.
 
Well, We always have some one who is anti India, Anti China or Anti Pakistan.... Even Anti US... so what ?

This particular magazine is like a tabloid. They publish really ridiculous articles.
 
At least when you post something, post a reputable source.

I really want to accept your advice, but Why.. why you missed this when several other articles from the same source were posted by Pakistani/Chinese Members ?

Why does the same source become Legit and Acceptable on such occasions ?

Examples :

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/how-...hter-would-shoot-down-an-f-22-or-f-35.621043/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/what...om-peace-in-afghanistan.601442/#post-11163834

etc.
 
To be honest.
I myself wont agree that Pakistan or China should worry about India, Atleast now.
China is Miles Ahead of India. Pakistan can do a considerable Damage.

In effect,

Pakistan : India :: India : China

We are a good match for each other. What the article missed was the HUGE.. In-fact MASSIVE Economic Disparity between India and Pakistan, which is actually the strength and weakness of India and Pakistan respectively in the longer run.

Its The Money which decides, Defense Budget, Funding for Research and Ultimately the Purchases.
I disagree with your some points.. around 2 trillions usd lost in Afghanistan by USA now going to sign a deal with people who carry ak47.. important thing who is ready to give their life for greater cause..... think..saudis could have won war in yaman with money they hav ... india could have won 27 feb with money and tech.. think... history has witnessed . baber mirza who came empty handed and single handle won whol subcontinent for 6 centuries .. turks single handle won alomost 4 continents and ruld the world for 5 centuries.. gangez khan is one of example as well. I have doubts on Indian capacity to won big wars. Apart from 71.. Indian subcontinent never won wars even they used to call golden bird in its whole history when were ruled by Hindus.
 
I disagree with your some points.. around 2 trillions usd lost in Afghanistan by USA now going to sign a deal with people who carry ak47.. important thing who is ready to give their life for greater cause..... think..saudis could have won war in yaman with money they hav ... india could have won 27 feb with money and tech.. think... history has witnessed . baber mirza who came empty handed and single handle won whol subcontinent for 6 centuries .. turks single handle won alomost 4 continents and ruld the world for 5 centuries.. gangez khan is one of example as well. I have doubts on Indian capacity to won big wars. Apart from 71.. Indian subcontinent never won wars even they used to call golden bird in its whole history when were ruled by Hindus.
Wars are won by tactics. US lost not because Afghan's bravery or anything its that they employed wrong tactics. Saudis are losing because they don't have a clear strategy. No one is above anyone. All are same. Tactics matter only nothing else.
 
To be honest.
I myself wont agree that Pakistan or China should worry about India, Atleast now.
China is Miles Ahead of India. Pakistan can do a considerable Damage.

In effect,

Pakistan : India :: India : China

We are a good match for each other. What the article missed was the HUGE.. In-fact MASSIVE Economic Disparity between India and Pakistan, which is actually the strength and weakness of India and Pakistan respectively in the longer run.

Its The Money which decides, Defense Budget, Funding for Research and Ultimately the Purchases.

The world's largest consumer market and could be most powerful bloc is fighting each other allowing other powers to use them in their favor, that is sad.
 
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