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As India today stole the march over China by launching a mission to Mars, Beijing called for “joint efforts” to ensure peace in outer space. A rocket carrying the unmanned Mangalyaan orbiter lifted off this afternoon, making India the fourth country after the US, Russia and EU to send probes to Mars. It is due to orbit the red planet in September next year. “Outer space is shared by the entire mankind. Every country has the right to make peaceful exploration and use of outer space,” Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei told a media briefing when he was asked about India’s Mars probe.

At the same time, he said, the international community should make joint efforts to ensure enduring peace and sustainable development of outer space. Asked whether China is apprehensive of India’s space programme, Hong said relations between the two countries are on a path of steady growth. “Political mutual trust between our two countries has increased and mutual cooperation has expanded,” he said. However, the official Chinese media alleged that India is undertaking ambitious ventures to overtake the country’s space programme. The state-run Global Times daily criticised India’s space programme, saying it sent a probe to Mars despite having millions of poor people to gain an advantage over China.

“India has an ambitious goal of leading Asia in this area, especially having an advantage over China,” it said in an editorial titled, India’s space ambition offers clue to China. “So far, only the US, Russia and EU have succeeded in Mars exploration. Other attempts to reach Mars, including China’s Yinghuo-1 mission and Japan’s Nozomi mission, have failed. “As poor as India is, New Delhi managed to carry out its Mars exploration program with a budget of only $73 million, much less than the spending of China and Japan.” India is confronted with a complicated public opinion environment on space development, similar to that which China has to face, it said.

“India is poor, so is China when compared with its Western counterparts. New Delhi has set China as its target, while China views the advanced level of the US and Russia as a reference,” it said. “China has achieved a leap forward in the development of manned space flight and space station technology.

It has already been in advance of India,” it added. Besides sending probes to the Moon, China is currently building a space station to rival Russia s Mir, the international space station also used by the US. “China is building its strategic power as well as developing its livelihood. Becoming a great power is required to manage all-round development. That’s why India won’t give up developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines in spite of its poor conditions,” the editorial said.
 
Moron Chinese media unable to digest India's mars mission after miserably failed in such mission.
 
Well, what would you expect China foreign ministry spokeperson to say when ask these questions?

India is a sovereign country, she has the right to explore space just like any other country.

It is not China business to comment on these activities.

The only relevant thing that China can comment on is the peaceful use of space. China express her hope that India would believe in what China believe in, that nobody would break the unspoken rule to not militarize space. 
In the article, it say,
The state-run Global Times daily criticised India’s space programme, saying it sent a probe to Mars despite having millions of poor people to gain an advantage over China.
This is typical India media trolling. The Global Times did no such thing, it is actually defending India right to explore space AGAINST western or in particular ENGLISH MEDIA criticism.

All I can say to the Indian is this, OPEN YOUR EYE, USE YOUR BRAIN and ASK YOURSELF why instead of attacking english media they are attacking chinese media?
 
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India’s space ambition offers clue to China - OP-ED - Globaltimes.cn

India’s space ambition offers clue to China
Global Times | 2013-11-5 0:03:01
By Global Times

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India is scheduled to launch its Mars Orbiter Mission probe Mangalyaan on Tuesday. If everything goes well, the spacecraft will reach the orbit of the Red Planet on September 24, 2014, after traveling for 10 months. So far, only the US, Russia and EU have succeeded in Mars exploration. Other attempts to reach Mars, including China's Yinghuo-1 mission and Japan's Nozomi mission, have failed.

India has an ambitious goal of leading Asia in this area, especially having an advantage over China. As poor as India is, New Delhi managed to carry out its Mars exploration program with a budget of only $73 million, much less than the spending of China and Japan. Nonetheless, it is not immune from critics at home and abroad, who wonder whether it's worthy for a country where more than 350 million people live on less than $1.25 a day and one third of the population are plagued by power shortages to spend millions of dollars traveling hundreds of millions of kilometers for a few Mars pictures.

However, such suspicions haven't prevented India from continuously casting money into exploring outer space. Besides launching communications and remote sensing satellites, India has also successfully blasted off its lunar probe. India is confronted with an increasingly complicated public opinion environment, similar to that which China has to face, on space development. India is poor, so is China when compared with its Western counterparts. New Delhi has set China as its target, while China views the advanced level of the US and Russia as a reference.

China is a unique member in the global space club, since it has a relatively low social development but is considered "rich" at the current stage. Populism suggests space development is useless and more investment be allocated to areas such as education and healthcare. Such a proposition is unlikely to be responded to at the national strategic level.

India, which still has hundreds of millions of illiterates and where money is needed in all fields, decisively sticks to exploring Mars and the Moon. Its national interests triumph over short-sighted populism.

China has achieved a leap forward in the development of manned space flight and space station technology. It has already been in advance of India.

China is building its strategic power as well as developing its livelihood. Becoming a great power is required to manage all-round development. That's why India won't give up developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines in spite of its poor conditions.

China must keep alert on populism, avoiding letting it kidnap the national strategic interests. In front of an India that is striving to catch up with China, we have no other choice but to construct our comprehensive strategic power.
 
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India’s space ambition offers clue to China - OP-ED - Globaltimes.cn

India’s space ambition offers clue to China
Global Times | 2013-11-5 0:03:01
By Global Times

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India is scheduled to launch its Mars Orbiter Mission probe Mangalyaan on Tuesday. If everything goes well, the spacecraft will reach the orbit of the Red Planet on September 24, 2014, after traveling for 10 months. So far, only the US, Russia and EU have succeeded in Mars exploration. Other attempts to reach Mars, including China's Yinghuo-1 mission and Japan's Nozomi mission, have failed.

India has an ambitious goal of leading Asia in this area, especially having an advantage over China. As poor as India is, New Delhi managed to carry out its Mars exploration program with a budget of only $73 million, much less than the spending of China and Japan. Nonetheless, it is not immune from critics at home and abroad, who wonder whether it's worthy for a country where more than 350 million people live on less than $1.25 a day and one third of the population are plagued by power shortages to spend millions of dollars traveling hundreds of millions of kilometers for a few Mars pictures.

However, such suspicions haven't prevented India from continuously casting money into exploring outer space. Besides launching communications and remote sensing satellites, India has also successfully blasted off its lunar probe. India is confronted with an increasingly complicated public opinion environment, similar to that which China has to face, on space development. India is poor, so is China when compared with its Western counterparts. New Delhi has set China as its target, while China views the advanced level of the US and Russia as a reference.

China is a unique member in the global space club, since it has a relatively low social development but is considered "rich" at the current stage. Populism suggests space development is useless and more investment be allocated to areas such as education and healthcare. Such a proposition is unlikely to be responded to at the national strategic level.

India, which still has hundreds of millions of illiterates and where money is needed in all fields, decisively sticks to exploring Mars and the Moon. Its national interests triumph over short-sighted populism.

China has achieved a leap forward in the development of manned space flight and space station technology. It has already been in advance of India.

China is building its strategic power as well as developing its livelihood. Becoming a great power is required to manage all-round development. That's why India won't give up developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines in spite of its poor conditions.

China must keep alert on populism, avoiding letting it kidnap the national strategic interests. In front of an India that is striving to catch up with China, we have no other choice but to construct our comprehensive strategic power.


China can burn its ***. We shall keep progressing. We are working on reusable rocket technology which will bring down the launch cost to just 10 to 15 % of our current cost. India will out class all the nation in launch market. Our scramjet engine is also getting ready so as our GSLV MK3 which shall give us a capability to carry 6 tons in Geo orbit and 15 tons in Leo orbit. We have laid down a strong platform in space technology. There is no looking back now onwards.
 
Hari, how you have collected this information. It is really good to hear


Hi javed Pl find here with the source.

For example, at the MAKS-2013 air show a representative of the BrahMos Russian-Indian venture admitted that soon India will receive a hypersonic version of the anti-ship missile. According to him, a hypersonic engine for it has already been created and tested. The only ‘but’ delaying the finished product is the lack of materials that can protect its guidance system

Russia's hypersonic trump card edges closer to reality | Russia & India Report

For GSLV MK3 pl check indian space capability in PDF.
 
From the photograph of PSLV C25, it seems that flames are very long compared to what we show in previous launches. Is it an indication if Motors being operated at higher pressure? Is PSLV C25 faster than previous PSLV? Does anybody have any idea?
 
@JSCh

don't live in denial..lets check the reality....

India’s space ambition offers clue to China - OP-ED - Globaltimes.cn


India’s space ambition offers clue to China

India is scheduled to launch its Mars Orbiter Mission probe Mangalyaan on Tuesday. If everything goes well, the spacecraft will reach the orbit of the Red Planet on September 24, 2014, after traveling for 10 months. So far, only the US, Russia and EU have succeeded in Mars exploration. Other attempts to reach Mars, including China's Yinghuo-1 mission and Japan's Nozomi mission, have failed.

India has an ambitious goal of leading Asia in this area, especially having an advantage over China. As poor as India is, New Delhi managed to carry out its Mars exploration program with a budget of only $73 million, much less than the spending of China and Japan. Nonetheless, it is not immune from critics at home and abroad, who wonder whether it's worthy for a country where more than 350 million people live on less than $1.25 a day and one third of the population are plagued by power shortages to spend millions of dollars traveling hundreds of millions of kilometers for a few Mars pictures.

However, such suspicions haven't prevented India from continuously casting money into exploring outer space. Besides launching communications and remote sensing satellites, India has also successfully blasted off its lunar probe. India is confronted with an increasingly complicated public opinion environment, similar to that which China has to face, on space development. India is poor, so is China when compared with its Western counterparts. New Delhi has set China as its target, while China views the advanced level of the US and Russia as a reference.

China is a unique member in the global space club, since it has a relatively low social development but is considered "rich" at the current stage. Populism suggests space development is useless and more investment be allocated to areas such as education and healthcare. Such a proposition is unlikely to be responded to at the national strategic level.

India, which still has hundreds of millions of illiterates and where money is needed in all fields, decisively sticks to exploring Mars and the Moon. Its national interests triumph over short-sighted populism.

China has achieved a leap forward in the development of manned space flight and space station technology. It has already been in advance of India.

China is building its strategic power as well as developing its livelihood. Becoming a great power is required to manage all-round development. That's why India won't give up developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines in spite of its poor conditions.

China must keep alert on populism, avoiding letting it kidnap the national strategic interests. In front of an India that is striving to catch up with China, we have no other choice but to construct our comprehensive strategic power.


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red parts are funny like hell.. :rofl:
 
@JSCh

don't live in denial..lets check the reality....

India’s space ambition offers clue to China - OP-ED - Globaltimes.cn


India’s space ambition offers clue to China

India is scheduled to launch its Mars Orbiter Mission probe Mangalyaan on Tuesday. If everything goes well, the spacecraft will reach the orbit of the Red Planet on September 24, 2014, after traveling for 10 months. So far, only the US, Russia and EU have succeeded in Mars exploration. Other attempts to reach Mars, including China's Yinghuo-1 mission and Japan's Nozomi mission, have failed.

India has an ambitious goal of leading Asia in this area, especially having an advantage over China. As poor as India is, New Delhi managed to carry out its Mars exploration program with a budget of only $73 million, much less than the spending of China and Japan. Nonetheless, it is not immune from critics at home and abroad, who wonder whether it's worthy for a country where more than 350 million people live on less than $1.25 a day and one third of the population are plagued by power shortages to spend millions of dollars traveling hundreds of millions of kilometers for a few Mars pictures.

However, such suspicions haven't prevented India from continuously casting money into exploring outer space. Besides launching communications and remote sensing satellites, India has also successfully blasted off its lunar probe. India is confronted with an increasingly complicated public opinion environment, similar to that which China has to face, on space development. India is poor, so is China when compared with its Western counterparts. New Delhi has set China as its target, while China views the advanced level of the US and Russia as a reference.

China is a unique member in the global space club, since it has a relatively low social development but is considered "rich" at the current stage. Populism suggests space development is useless and more investment be allocated to areas such as education and healthcare. Such a proposition is unlikely to be responded to at the national strategic level.

India, which still has hundreds of millions of illiterates and where money is needed in all fields, decisively sticks to exploring Mars and the Moon. Its national interests triumph over short-sighted populism.

China has achieved a leap forward in the development of manned space flight and space station technology. It has already been in advance of India.

China is building its strategic power as well as developing its livelihood. Becoming a great power is required to manage all-round development. That's why India won't give up developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines in spite of its poor conditions.

China must keep alert on populism, avoiding letting it kidnap the national strategic interests. In front of an India that is striving to catch up with China, we have no other choice but to construct our comprehensive strategic power.


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red parts are funny like hell.. :rofl:
Yes, the Global Times editorial is saying that India should and would ignore the criticism from the western and especially english media, follow her national interest and develop her strategic power. And China should learn from that and do the same.

Did the editorial criticized Indian space program? It is arguing that India should develop the space program for national interest DESPITE the criticism.
 
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Yes, the Global Times editorial is saying that India should and would ignore the criticism from the western and especially english media, follow her national interest and develop her strategic power. And China should learn from that and do the same.


actually,what they said is just opposite...read properly..
 
How so?

Summary of your highlight,
Populism suggests space development is useless and more investment be allocated to areas such as education and healthcare. Such a proposition is unlikely to be responded to at the national strategic level.
Populism means mass media. So mass media say that space development is useless but this saying is unlikely to be considered at the National Strategic Level, because at the national strategic level, space is also important.

India, which still has hundreds of millions of illiterates and where money is needed in all fields, decisively sticks to exploring Mars and the Moon. Its national interests triumph over short-sighted populism.
India has this problem of illiteracy but still continue space program because national interest is more important than short-sighted mass media.

China is building its strategic power as well as developing its livelihood. Becoming a great power is required to manage all-round development. That's why India won't give up developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines in spite of its poor conditions.
India won't give up developing space because great power needs all-round development. And that is why India keep developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines despite other problems. All round development means that your develop BOTH livelihood AND strategic asset/power, not doing one but not the others.

In front of an India that is striving to catch up with China, we have no other choice but to construct our comprehensive strategic power.
India is trying to catch up with China, so China need to do the same to stay ahead.
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Ok, I get it that India may be offended because it mention many problems that India has. But the article is simply repeating what other critic has mentioned.
 
Moron Chinese media unable to digest India's mars mission after miserably failed in such mission.

Can you specify the Chinese attempt to send a probe to mars. Which of the Chinese space centers did China fire such a rocket? I never heard of this attempt so please enlightening me.
 
Can you specify the Chinese attempt to send a probe to mars. Which of the Chinese space centers did China fire such a rocket? I never heard of this attempt so please enlightening me.

Chinese did tried to send "Yinghuo-1" orbiter to Mars. But unfortunately the mission failed to meet any objective including moving out of Earth's orbit as planned.,

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Chinese did tried to send "Yinghuo-1" orbiter to Mars. But unfortunately the mission failed to meet any objective including moving out of Earth's orbit as planned.,

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Can you share where was this orbiter launched from? What is the name of the rocket?
 
Can you specify the Chinese attempt to send a probe to mars. Which of the Chinese space centers did China fire such a rocket? I never heard of this attempt so please enlightening me.


Pl find here with the link stating that Yinghuo-1 mission of china failed.

"So far, only the US, Russia and EU have succeeded in Mars exploration. Other attempts to reach Mars, including China's Yinghuo-1 mission and Japan's Nozomi mission, have failed.

China calls for 'joint efforts' after India's Mars mission - Times Of India
 
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