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India’s internet user base to hit 402 million, second-highest in the world: IAMAI

Servers?You mean let Indian play with Chinese in LOL?I hope so but India may not permit...


Ping?Ah...I can't see ping but I think it means very slow?
:cheesy:I hate those who go out of the game halfway,if Indian play with Chinese maybe many Chinese will suffer from heart attack....:laugh:
China does not allow people from other countries to play on its servers. It is because you have a different client for LOL and can only play from within China. China vs India on LOL would be funny :D

300 ping o.0

Garena, 30 ping to singapore. or play on EU (150 ping...tolerable),if Garena skill cap is too low (for most part it is...plus most people have terrible internet, they keep dropping in and out).

But just shift to a better game..DOTA :)
What is the ping on Indian DOTA server? I have my NA account Gold 5 still like to play on it sometimes :P
 
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While Indian members are cheering for the title of "the 2nd highest in the world with 402 Million Internet Users", I have been questioning the substance of this number, 402 million. It seems the reality is indeed different from what the title tried to lead you to believe. A BBC news report published today just painted a totally different picture of Indian's state of Internet, from what many Indian members would like to believe.

I don't mean to spoil your party, but the truth is always better than the false sense of pride, which seems to be way too common in India's media. @Nilgiri , your thought?

Here is a part of article:

However, this dual broadband access option is a distant dream for India. Currently, India has less than 15 million fixed broadband connections (3% of households). That means only about 60 million consumers (about 20% of total internet users) are able to access fixed broadband at home.

These same high-income consumers account for most of the 3G/4G connections.

It is the next 1.2 billion people with no access to a fixed broadband connection that are severely disadvantaged.

They have to rely only on cellular data which at 200 rupees is lower than global benchmarks on mobile data costs, but is still more than their current average monthly expenditure on mobile phone plans.

Hence, even after acquiring smartphones, social network accounts and local language typing skills, 80% of data subscribers consume less than 100MB per month, most of it on 2G.

What stands in the way of India's digital dream? - BBC News
 
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While Indian members are cheering for the title of "the 2nd highest in the world with 402 Million Internet Users", I have been questioning the substance of this number, 402 million. It seems the reality is indeed different from what the title tried to lead you to believe. A BBC news report published today just painted a totally different picture of Indian's state of Internet, from what many Indian members would like to believe.

I don't mean to spoil your party, but the truth is always better than the false sense of pride, which seems to be way too common in India's media. @Nilgiri , your thought?

Here is a part of article:

However, this dual broadband access option is a distant dream for India. Currently, India has less than 15 million fixed broadband connections (3% of households). That means only about 60 million consumers (about 20% of total internet users) are able to access fixed broadband at home.

These same high-income consumers account for most of the 3G/4G connections.

It is the next 1.2 billion people with no access to a fixed broadband connection that are severely disadvantaged.

They have to rely only on cellular data which at 200 rupees is lower than global benchmarks on mobile data costs, but is still more than their current average monthly expenditure on mobile phone plans.

Hence, even after acquiring smartphones, social network accounts and local language typing skills, 80% of data subscribers consume less than 100MB per month, most of it on 2G.

What stands in the way of India's digital dream? - BBC News

Those that are honest and rationale of course will agree with the stark realities. 400 million users does not mean all those 400 million or even a large majority of them are going to be using current generation dedicated broadband.

The way I see it the current govt wants to bring the basics to the rural masses and this is where the 600 million + number comes in (by 2020). These people simply do not have the means to provide demand for what we take for granted (i.e massive data transfer via streaming, youtube, social media etc). Rather they want some simple things like weather, reliable voice communication, farming e-resources and banking. I talked to one of my relatives who works for India postal system and he is very excited about the response to the mobile banking that has just recently started.

The larger entertainment, Information highway related demand will only come in maybe 2030 once India is past the 50% urbanisation mark as a whole (and the Hindi heartland comes to say the development levels of best parts of South India/Urban India today for example). This will also be around the time the smart cities and I-ways Modi is talking about right now will be in their prime phase of development./expansion (maturity will be another 10 or 20 years).

But Modi govt is definitely very good at executing major infrastructure projects....but he is also shrewd to listen to the experts who are probably structuring a long term plan so that there is as little mismatch between supply and demand in the long run.....and planning the major infra for broadband today when it is cheaper and more prudent to do so. But in the short term, the maximum impact will be brought through the very basic mobile-based internet services....so people themselves can see the advantage and provide inherent demand for it as their financial condition improves etc.
 
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Those that are honest and rationale of course will agree with the stark realities. 400 million users does not mean all those 400 million or even a large majority of them are going to be using current generation dedicated broadband.

The way I see it the current govt wants to bring the basics to the rural masses and this is where the 600 million + number comes in (by 2020). These people simply do not have the means to provide demand for what we take for granted (i.e massive data transfer via streaming, youtube, social media etc). Rather they want some simple things like weather, reliable voice communication, farming e-resources and banking. I talked to one of my relatives who works for India postal system and he is very excited about the response to the mobile banking that has just recently started.

The larger entertainment, Information highway related demand will only come in maybe 2030 once India is past the 50% urbanisation mark as a whole (and the Hindi heartland comes to say the development levels of best parts of South India/Urban India today for example). This will also be around the time the smart cities and I-ways Modi is talking about right now will be in their prime phase of development./expansion (maturity will be another 10 or 20 years).

But Modi govt is definitely very good at executing major infrastructure projects....but he is also shrewd to listen to the experts who are probably structuring a long term plan so that there is as little mismatch between supply and demand in the long run.....and planning the major infra for broadband today when it is cheaper and more prudent to do so. But in the short term, the maximum impact will be brought through the very basic mobile-based internet services....so people themselves can see the advantage and provide inherent demand for it as their financial condition improves etc.



I am all for inclusive development that benefit all segments of any society. India being a developing country, just like China, is facing the challenges to bring modern infrastructures to all its regions. Comparing to the case of China, India may have more difficulties as it has to rely on private entities to facilitate this transition, and private companies are for profit. They will not provide services to the population that them deem unprofitable.

$20-$50 a month may not sound much for affluent population in the cities, but it may be a large sum of money for rural people. One example is the "Clean Stove" movement initiated in 1950's in India, and its initial cost of $30-$50 turned away majority of perspective users. So the "Clean Stove" program was not considered successful as there are still 500 million Indians rely on "cow dung" to cook. Is there any provision in Modi's "Digital India" plan to address this issue?
 
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I am all for inclusive development that benefit all segments of any society. India being a developing country, just like China, is facing the challenges to bring modern infrastructures to all its regions. Comparing to the case of China, India may have more difficulties as it has to rely on private entities to facilitate this transition, and private companies are for profit. They will not provide services to the population that them deem unprofitable.

Hence the initial infrastructure will be laid by public or public-private partnership entities. Private companies, especially with the credit crunch many of them are still in (due to the reckless splurge they were coerced into doing under the last administration)....definitely cannot plug the demand to any large degree because of the huge capex to revenue ratio.

Thats why be rail/road/fiber "ways" or any other major infrastructure will come from the central and state resources for the time being and even forseeable future.

Where the private sector comes in is partnership with these govt efforts where they can (to bring additional expertise, funding they can manage and efficient contract fulfilling).....but mainly the leasing/operation of the infrastructure. Already this is for example being started with some projects in the Railways for example.....and its already in full swing with the broadband/mobile services in cities....given that private companies are naturally more efficient at the operations side in India especially when you bring in ample competition.

Govt owned companies have time and time again shown they are quite bad at service provision in India (in efficiency/quality perspective) with a few exceptions (but only a few).

$20-$50 a month may not sound much for affluent population in the cities, but it may be a large sum of money for rural people. One example is the "Clean Stove" movement initiated in 1950's in India, and its initial cost of $30-$50 turned away majority of perspective users. So the "Clean Stove" program was not considered successful as there are still 500 million Indians rely on "cow dung" to cook. Is there any provision in Modi's "Digital India" plan to address this issue?

Hence why the focus is on increasing low-bandwidth mobile networks while incomes are still quite low....and wait for urbanisation to catch up to the critical mass needed especially in the Ganges river states and the heartland just below it.

The mobile phone way is cheap infra, cheap costs, high provider competition and can provide the very basic essentials like banking/microcredit/basic news/farming resources etc. With mass economy of scale, I dont think the 2mbps goal is far out of reach since this will be the peak speed, the cap will be controlled and is quite ample for these basics (as we can see its already just 12 dollars monthly....I bet this will drop even further with larger economies of scale and sharing of connection etc)....

So it will be kept low and any further subsidies/financial aid can be accessed through the mobile banking itself...cutting the middle men (and thus its a self-sustaining technology).

It sounds good on paper of course and we will have to wait and see how well it is actually implemented....but seeing the success of various projects on the ground already (and the success of mobile telephony even under the last crappy+corrupt administration)....I think we can be somewhat optimistic.

Those of course that can afford much more will have access to it (in the cities)....before even this wasn't the case in India (there were large waiting lists for cars, phones, scooters, vans, TVs almost everything...not to mention business licenses and financing)....so there is no looking back for sure.
 
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What?
I have 2 connections. one a 8mbps 100 gb at 1500rs, and another 16mbps at 1200 a month . which ISP do you use? go with airtel.

Some places still only got BSNL. Not everyone lives in the big cities.
 
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Ya ! I have only heard about BSNL for Land Line services :undecided:

For Mobile we have others but their 3G plans are nothing less than a scam :D
In mobile 3g services i used to be a post paid airtel subscriber, but have switched to Idea , its faster. also 4 g is being rolled out here in hyd next month.
 
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