India’s Growth Story is Unraveling, Yet the Government is in Denial

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Always the same 'we r important' rhetoric by self-assuring indians

 

[Vishwabalas]

You are very astute. I predict in near future, you will leave the Indian sh*thole and find better life for you and your family. Someone with critical thinking like you don't fit in with most other Indians present here.

You predict wrong, since I chose to be in India. I live in India because I love my country and its people and its culture and its values. There is more to life than seeking one individual growth.

But you are right, pdf is populated by a whole lot of dumb fcuks, but so is life outside pdf. Its foolish to build an image of India based on the people you meet in pdf.

 

[my2cents]

I am talking about Doklam punga

With out doubt Doklam punga reflects the deep seated mistrust between India and China. China for what ever reason decided to call off the road development and disengage its troops as it was viewed by Indians as a security threat. Or it could be a temporary thing for the sake of creating a better conducive atmosphere before the BRICS summit. I see more positive that emerged out of this in terms of interest generated towards India. Our understanding lacks depth and when we engage and broaden our relations into multiple spheres like culture, science, trade etc we will reduce our mistrust and have positive view of others.

Well hopefully we both learned something from this Doklam standoff.

 

[Jlaw]

Adding salt to the wound of our Indian friends? not at all, just like to provide some factual data for a healthy discussion
IMHO it does not looks too good to any sensible people, especially the manufacturing sector dropping by "90% comparing the same period of the previous year
However, i will not be surprise if there are different interpretation from our dear Indian friends LOL

The response would be:
"India GDP was higher than China between 2013-2015"

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Unlimited growth is IMPOSSIBLE on a finite Earth...Around 600 million-1 billion people already achieved developed status by the 70s...There was only room left for another billion or so to make the cut to developed status..and China moved fast not only compared to India, but also Pakistan, all of the Islamic and African world...-.Now China will not stop at anything before being a supersized version of Japan...they might shoe in...but before that around 300 million of their population has to fall, which will in another 30 years............We started late and I see NO fucking way India can also attain developed status...we would need another Earth for that...the resources are not enough on this planet to support more than 2 billion people at Western/Japanese standards...The developed world has already taken the first 1 billion, and China is set to take the next billion slot...the highest India can hope for is Brazil level development....which would also be fine , for several cities....................................And Eventhough everybody dismiss Mao, I salute him for instituting atheism and crushing religion and superstition in China.....That was the necessary pain the Chinese had to go through to enjoy the fruits they are getting now...As long as India or any other country is super-religious/superstitious they are not gonna achive greatness without some resource windfall like oil....Mao's purges helped to instill Western Rationalism and Western Scientific Method in every Chinese heart...We need an Indian Enlightenment like Scottish/French Enlightenment before we can think of reaching developed status...It has to be engraved in every Indian heart that the Scientific Method is the only legitimate way of arriving at truths..

 

[beijingwalker]

.And Eventhough everybody dismiss Mao, I salute him for instituting atheism and crushing religion and superstition in China.....That was the necessary pain the Chinese had to go through to enjoy the fruits they are getting now...As long as India or any other country is super-religious/superstitious they are not gonna achive greatness without some resource windfall like oil....Mao's purges helped to instill Western Rationalism and Western Scientific Method in every Chinese heart...We need an Indian Enlightenment like Scottish/French Enlightenment before we can think of reaching developed status...It has to be engraved in every Indian heart that the Scientific Method is the only legitimate way of arriving at truths..

How about Taiwan, Hongkong and Singapore? And to some wider extent Japan and Korea.They didn't have Mao and share the same religions and superstitions that mainland Chinese used to believe. Actually they have much better manners than mainland Chinese with the influence of the old Chinese teachings and cultures.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

How about Taiwan, Hongkong and Singapore? And to some wider extent Japan and Korea.They didn't have Mao and share the same religions and superstitions that mainland Chinese used to believe. Actually they have much better manners than mainland Chinese with the influence of the old Chinese teachings and cultures.

Gunboat diplomacy by US forced Japan into the modern world...Japan in turn brought Western Scientific Rationalism/Agnosticism to rest of Asia...except mainland China


The Atheistic Project of China was pulled off entirely by Mao given that Yuan Fat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek were Christians.....

Chinese of 120 years back were very irrational , thinking Qi power of Taoism would stop Western guns and cannons in the Boxer Rebellion..This IS EXACTLY how Yogis of all religions think to this day in India (cannot speak for Rest of the World)...and they command followers in tens of millions...........


It is thanks to Mao,China became irreligious and even substantially atheistic...It is total stupidity to talk about economic growth and factories before you have corrected the mindset of the people to Western Enlightement...Mao did that...only after Mao made Chinese atheists, were Chinese in the sweetspot to achive great things using their hands as well as their IQ...This is something religious Indians won't get it, or even the religious ones of other countries...greatness of China lies in its atheism...and that's why I donot see the explosion of Christianity as a positive development

 

[Vishwabalas]

Gunboat diplomacy by US forced Japan into the modern world...Japan in turn brought Western Scientific Rationalism/Agnosticism to rest of Asia...except mainland China


The Atheistic Project of China was pulled off entirely by Mao given that Yuan Fat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek were Christians.....

Chinese of 120 years back were very irrational , thinking Qi power of Taoism would stop Western guns and cannons in the Boxer Rebellion..This IS EXACTLY how Hindu Yogis think to this day...and they command followers in tens of millions...........


It is thanks to Mao,China became irreligious and even substantially...It is total stupidity to talk about economic growth and factories before you have corrected the mindset of the people to Western Enlightement...Mao did that...only after Mao made Chinese atheists, were Chinese in the sweetspot to achive great things using their hands as well as their IQ...This is something religious Indians won't get it, or even the religious ones of other countries...greatness of China lies in its atheism...and that's why I donot see the explosion of Christianity as a positive development

Do not pretend to be a spokes person for hindu yogis you piece of $Hit.

Hindus can speak for themselves. Keep your bigotry within limits if you do not want to be bitch sapped in public and humiliated for your bigotry and stupidity.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Do not pretend to be a spokes person for hindu yogis you piece of $Hit.

Hindus can speak for themselves. Keep your bigotry within limits if you do not want to be bitch sapped in public and humiliated for your bigotry and stupidity.

changed to Hindu/Other religion's so that every religion is equally represented

 

[Vishwabalas]

changed to Hindu/Other religion's so that every religion is equally represented

No other religion has Yogis in India. Its fairly obvious you are targeting hinduism.

 

[beijingwalker]

Gunboat diplomacy by US forced Japan into the modern world...Japan in turn brought Western Scientific Rationalism/Agnosticism to rest of Asia...except mainland China


The Atheistic Project of China was pulled off entirely by Mao given that Yuan Fat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek were Christians.....

Chinese of 120 years back were very irrational , thinking Qi power of Taoism would stop Western guns and cannons in the Boxer Rebellion..This IS EXACTLY how Yogis of all religions think to this day in India (cannot speak for Rest of the World)...and they command followers in tens of millions...........


It is thanks to Mao,China became irreligious and even substantially atheistic...It is total stupidity to talk about economic growth and factories before you have corrected the mindset of the people to Western Enlightement...Mao did that...only after Mao made Chinese atheists, were Chinese in the sweetspot to achive great things using their hands as well as their IQ...This is something religious Indians won't get it, or even the religious ones of other countries...greatness of China lies in its atheism...and that's why I donot see the explosion of Christianity as a positive development

No, it's not like that , China wouldn't be anywhere close to today's China if Mao were still in power, some where similar to North Korea would be more like it. India has Maoist rebels and you don't want them to take over India, do you?

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

No other religion has Yogis in India. Its fairly obvious you are targeting hinduism.

buddhism, jainism,sikhism,ajivikas all have yogis..look at ram rahim scandal

 

[Vishwabalas]

buddhism, jainism,sikhism,ajivikas all have yogis..look at ram rahim scandal

In which parallel universe is Ram Rahim a "Yogi" ?

He is a SIKH man called Gurumeet singh who started a cult.

Even he does not claim to be a yogi, only bigots like you does.

Next you will be calling jihadi's "yogi" because it suits your narrative.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

No, it's not like that , China wouldn't be anywhere close to today's China if Mao were still in power, some where similar to North Korea would be more like it. India has Maoist rebels and you don't want them to take over India, do you?

Mao was economically bad for China but was good for Scientific mentality and atheism Chinese show all over the world...I am saying that somehow the pain of the Mao years was necessary to see the brilliance of China now...If China had been ruled by Christian Communists instead of atheist Mao, it would not have been so different than today's India---good economic development but at least 60 years behind the West...where as modern atheistic China will take, MARK MY WORDS, around 15 years to catch up with Western living standards..and that's the maximum time limit..they may even achieve it in 8-9 years

In which parallel universe is Ram Rahim a "Yogi" ?

He is a SIKH man called Gurumeet singh who started a cult.

Even he does not claim to be a yogi, only bigots like you does.

Next you will be calling jihadi's "yogi" because it suits your narrative.

celibate practitioners of Dharmic religions are Yogis...They meditate, chant and do brahmcharya...what more do you want

 

[Vishwabalas]

celibate practitioners of Dharmic religions are Yogis

And how did you decide that a man accused of two Rapes and a man who has 2 daughter is a Celibate ? a man with a wife. do you even know what Celibate means ?