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This is the first good news for India's fast depleting submarine fleet in a long time. The first of the six Scorpene attack submarines being built at Mumbai's Mazagon Docks Ltd (MDL), under transfer of technology from France's DCNS, is now floating in the water.

This is an indication that the delivery of the submarines, delayed by over four years, is finally on track. The revised deadline for the delivery of the first Scorpene to the Indian Navy is September 2016. Thereafter, the delivery of the subsequent five has been promised at the rate of one every nine months.

A submarine is assembled in dry dock. Floating it in water is an indication that it's in an advanced stage of completion. In technical terminology, this marks the "launch" of the submarine.

"Both the pressure and the outer hull of the first Scorpene are in place. Much of the internal fit is also progressing well. The submarine will now be placed on a pontoon, and tugged out of MDL docks to the nearby Indian Navy Dock. This will free one precious submarine-building dock at MDL, and thus help in meeting deadlines for subsequent Scorpenes. The remaining work on the first submarine, in particular the fitment of batteries, will be done in the Naval Dock," a highly-placed source in the Indian Navy disclosed to The Sunday Guardian.

After the fitment is complete in the Naval Dock, the first Scorpene will be put through harbour trials. Once it clears the harbour trials, the boat will head for sea trials, during which its weapons firing capability will also be validated, before finally being inducted as a warship.

The Scorpene is one of the world's most advanced and stealthy diesel-electrical submarines. It will be armed with Exocet missiles and Black Shark torpedoes.

This marks a desperately-needed relief for the Indian Navy, which has lost five submarines in the last 15 years due to decommissioning or phase-out and accident, but not added a single new conventional submarine.

The Sunday Guardian had reported last week the retirement of INS Sindhurakshak, a Kilo class submarine, which suffered a catastrophic on-board explosion, rendering another blow to India's underwater strength. The number of conventional submarines is down to 13, of which three are in life extension refit. Another six are due for similar life extensions. Due to the critically-low force levels, these will be spared only after the Scorpenes start coming in.

A recent CAG performance audit has brought out the desperation. It disclosed that the operational availability of submarines is as low as 50% of those not in elaborate repair or refit.

The only addition to India's underwater fleet in nearly 15 years was a nuclear-powered Akula class attack submarine, codenamed INS Chakra, in 2012. This has been taken on a 10-year lease from Russia.

To maintain minimum numbers of conventional submarines, India embarked on a 30-year programme in 1999 to build 24 submarines. The programme is alarmingly behind schedule. The contract for the Scorpenes, which were to be the first element, was signed in 2005. The first submarine was scheduled to be delivered in 2012, but is now over four years behind schedule. Timeline slippages also led to heavy cost escalation from the initially contracted Rs 18,798 crore to Rs 23,562 crore.

Because of the huge delay in the Scorpenes and then in deciding on a second line of submarines, the Indian Navy has already obtained government approval for converting the requirement for six of the 24 conventional submarines into nuclear-powered ones (SSNs) akin to the leased INS Chakra. This is also significant from the point of view of increasing forays by Chinese nuclear submarines in waters close to India.

These six nuclear submarines will be built indigenously at the strategic Ship Building Complex in Vizag. Unlike a conventional diesel-electric submarine, which needs to resurface after every few days to recharge its batteries, a nuclear submarine can stay submerged for months, giving added stealth, lethality and sea denial capability. Only five other countries besides India have the capability to operate nuclear submarines.

In addition to these attack submarines, both conventional and nuclear, India has laboured for long to indigenously produce a fleet of nuclear-powered, nuclear-missile firing submarines to provide the missing third leg of the triad of nuclear weapons, which can be fired from land, air and under the sea. The first of these, the Arihant, is now undergoing sea trials.

India’s first Scorpene submarine is now in water
 
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Still Harbour and Sea acceptance trials are remaining.
 
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What about the Black Shark torpedoes ? is it ordered ?
 
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place the order 3 more will be the biggest boost for IN

Yes please ... 3 bigger Scorpions from France will be a great deal to take forward !

And any please conform . Now we have 13 SSK . Out of which 3 under refit . Another 6 needed mid life upgrade .

So which are the submarines under refit ?

We should upgrade our 4 old German subs too right .?

And after refits how long can we operate these upgraded sub for ?
 
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Thats indeed a good news. Also that means all 6 will be in service before mid 2020.
By that time we will have atleast 2 SSBN + 1 Akula + atleast 4 Scorpions + 4 old German subs + atleast 3/4 upgraded old Russian subs ?

If so by 2020 we will have 12-13 active submarines fleet . And am not sure whether we will use SSBN for anti submarine role . May be till we get good strength of SSK

This is the first good news for India's fast depleting submarine fleet in a long time. The first of the six Scorpene attack submarines being built at Mumbai's Mazagon Docks Ltd (MDL), under transfer of technology from France's DCNS, is now floating in the water.

This is an indication that the delivery of the submarines, delayed by over four years, is finally on track. The revised deadline for the delivery of the first Scorpene to the Indian Navy is September 2016. Thereafter, the delivery of the subsequent five has been promised at the rate of one every nine months.

A submarine is assembled in dry dock. Floating it in water is an indication that it's in an advanced stage of completion. In technical terminology, this marks the "launch" of the submarine.

"Both the pressure and the outer hull of the first Scorpene are in place. Much of the internal fit is also progressing well. The submarine will now be placed on a pontoon, and tugged out of MDL docks to the nearby Indian Navy Dock. This will free one precious submarine-building dock at MDL, and thus help in meeting deadlines for subsequent Scorpenes. The remaining work on the first submarine, in particular the fitment of batteries, will be done in the Naval Dock," a highly-placed source in the Indian Navy disclosed to The Sunday Guardian.

After the fitment is complete in the Naval Dock, the first Scorpene will be put through harbour trials. Once it clears the harbour trials, the boat will head for sea trials, during which its weapons firing capability will also be validated, before finally being inducted as a warship.

The Scorpene is one of the world's most advanced and stealthy diesel-electrical submarines. It will be armed with Exocet missiles and Black Shark torpedoes.

This marks a desperately-needed relief for the Indian Navy, which has lost five submarines in the last 15 years due to decommissioning or phase-out and accident, but not added a single new conventional submarine.

The Sunday Guardian had reported last week the retirement of INS Sindhurakshak, a Kilo class submarine, which suffered a catastrophic on-board explosion, rendering another blow to India's underwater strength. The number of conventional submarines is down to 13, of which three are in life extension refit. Another six are due for similar life extensions. Due to the critically-low force levels, these will be spared only after the Scorpenes start coming in.

A recent CAG performance audit has brought out the desperation. It disclosed that the operational availability of submarines is as low as 50% of those not in elaborate repair or refit.

The only addition to India's underwater fleet in nearly 15 years was a nuclear-powered Akula class attack submarine, codenamed INS Chakra, in 2012. This has been taken on a 10-year lease from Russia.

To maintain minimum numbers of conventional submarines, India embarked on a 30-year programme in 1999 to build 24 submarines. The programme is alarmingly behind schedule. The contract for the Scorpenes, which were to be the first element, was signed in 2005. The first submarine was scheduled to be delivered in 2012, but is now over four years behind schedule. Timeline slippages also led to heavy cost escalation from the initially contracted Rs 18,798 crore to Rs 23,562 crore.

Because of the huge delay in the Scorpenes and then in deciding on a second line of submarines, the Indian Navy has already obtained government approval for converting the requirement for six of the 24 conventional submarines into nuclear-powered ones (SSNs) akin to the leased INS Chakra. This is also significant from the point of view of increasing forays by Chinese nuclear submarines in waters close to India.

These six nuclear submarines will be built indigenously at the strategic Ship Building Complex in Vizag. Unlike a conventional diesel-electric submarine, which needs to resurface after every few days to recharge its batteries, a nuclear submarine can stay submerged for months, giving added stealth, lethality and sea denial capability. Only five other countries besides India have the capability to operate nuclear submarines.

In addition to these attack submarines, both conventional and nuclear, India has laboured for long to indigenously produce a fleet of nuclear-powered, nuclear-missile firing submarines to provide the missing third leg of the triad of nuclear weapons, which can be fired from land, air and under the sea. The first of these, the Arihant, is now undergoing sea trials.

India’s first Scorpene submarine is now in water

With only 1100 km/sec speed and range between 150 km with 165 kg war war head will it be better than our adversaries ? Is it possible to induct Brahmos or Klub or P 800 be better option ? or no room for different missiles ?

Dual-purpose wire-guided heavyweight torpedo
The BLACK-SHARK advanced heavyweight torpedo is a multi-purpose weapon designed to be launched from submarines or surface vessels. It is meant to counter the threat posed by any type of surface or underwater target for the next 20 years. The BLACK-SHARK is a new generation, powerful, long-range, fully stealth, wire-guided and self-homing heavyweight torpedo (21in diameter).

Advanced acoustic head for modern torpedoes
The acoustic head of BLACK-SHARK, named ASTRA (Advanced Sonar Transmitting and Receiving Architecture), is a state-of-the-art active and passive acoustic head for modern torpedoes, which represents the latest effort made by WASS. It is possible to use ASTRA as an additional, remote sensor to the submarine combat suite.

The Advanced Signal and Data Processing module provides the following features:

  • Medium and high-frequency operation in passive mode
  • Spatial filtering
  • Multi-frequency capability
  • Frequency filtering
  • Constant false alarm rate processing
  • DEMON analysis
  • Echo elongation analysis
  • Echo spatial coherence analysis
  • Echo angular coherence analysis
 
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Never thought I will see this in my life!!!! :cray: Its started when I was a teen in school and now I am a manager in a big MNC. lol :yahoo:

Bloody congressi losers!!!
 
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Never thought I will see this in my life!!!! :cray: Its started when I was a teen in school and now I am a manager in a big MNC. lol :yahoo:

Bloody congressi losers!!!


Don't be a bhakt bro

If it weren't for Congress and erstwhile def min AK Anthony we wouldn't have gotten this now


On topic : So there are glimmers of hope that the rest will be in waters by 2020 :)

Never thought I will see this in my life!!!! :cray: Its started when I was a teen in school and now I am a manager in a big MNC. lol :yahoo:

Bloody congressi losers!!!


Don't be a bhakt bro

If it weren't for Congress and erstwhile def min AK Anthony we wouldn't have gotten this now


On topic : So there are glimmers of hope that the rest will be in waters by 2020 :)
 
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What about the Black Shark torpedoes ? is it ordered ?

Don't know.After Finmeccanica's ban,the order was on hold.but changes of procurement plan may have set the plan in motion.but even without Black Shark,it may be armed with indigenous heavy torpedo.but Black Shark is the very best out there.

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Don't be a bhakt bro

If it weren't for Congress and erstwhile def min AK Anthony we wouldn't have gotten this now


On topic : So there are glimmers of hope that the rest will be in waters by 2020 :)




Don't be a bhakt bro

If it weren't for Congress and erstwhile def min AK Anthony we wouldn't have gotten this now


On topic : So there are glimmers of hope that the rest will be in waters by 2020 :)
It was NDA which cleared the purchase of subs. But due to elections in 2004, the project got buried and then it was the bronze age for India for 10 years.... So don't act one-sided and blindfolded
 
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