India’s air defence upgrades are eroding Pakistan’s offensive capability

[Jackdaws]

Just imagine how much money the 2 countries have spent on weapons that could be used for Healthcare, sanitation, desalination plants, educational institutes.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

S400 in words of ACM(R) Sohail Aman "isai kahen tu rakhain gai na, jahan b rakhain gai, hamari puhnch mai ho ga"

 

[Dalai Lama]

Just imagine how much money the 2 countries have spent on weapons that could be used for Healthcare, sanitation, desalination plants, educational institutes.

Spending is one thing, spending on acquiring rather than developing is worse.

 

[IndianGuy_]

Just imagine how much money the 2 countries have spent on weapons that could be used for Healthcare, sanitation, desalination plants, educational institutes.

India and Pakistan's defence budget is peanut in comparison to USA and China.

 

[Umar Nazir]

Just imagine how much money the 2 countries have spent on weapons that could be used for Healthcare, sanitation, desalination plants, educational institutes.

thats very sad indeed

 

[Haris Ali2140]

India and Pakistan's defence budget is peanut in comparison to USA and China.

In terms of gdp ratio we are on par.

 

[Basel]

Range is the problem. S 400 has the range

PAF have now tested it against Chinese S-400 soon they will come up how to take care of those.

 

[fitpOsitive]

INDIA’S AIR DEFENCE EFFORTS ARE ERODING PAKISTAN’S OFFENSIVE ABILITY
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Through its deployment of land-attack cruise missiles (LACM) and various ballistic missiles, Pakistan stated that it is maintaining “minimum credible deterrence.” However, while that might be accurate in terms of its nuclear deployment capability, Pakistan’s conventional deterrence is at risk of eroding.

By ‘conventional deterrence,’ we refer to Pakistan’s ability to leverage its conventional capabilities – such as airstrikes, deploy armoured columns, or launch conventional warheads at long-range – to dissuade its adversary India from instigating a potential conflict through a pre-emptive strike.

The main causes for this erosion of capability stem from multiple factors, but the most pressing problem, at least in the near-term, is India’s significant investment in ground-based air defence systems. This would include the flagship, the S-400, and an assortment of other potent solutions, such as the Barak 8.

The Impact of India’s Air Defence Efforts
In response to its airstrike on Balakot, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) undertook a retaliatory air campaign – designated “Swift Retort” – centered on its core assets, namely the F-16, JF-17, Mirage III/5, Falcon DA-20 electronic warfare (EW) jammer, and Erieye airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) system.

Whatever the intent of Swift Retort, it was without a doubt a template of an offensive counter-air (OCA) package. Moreover, with some element of surprise to India (such as the disproportionate size of the OCA force), the PAF had demonstrated a credible offensive capability should India trigger a conflict.

However, the PAF’s ability to exercise that capability is eroding in the face of India’s growing investment in ground-based air defence systems (adding to its significant spending on new multi-role fighters).

The most significant of these new air defence assets is the S-400. In 2018, India signed the $5.5 billion USD contract with Russia for the long-range surface-to-air missile (SAM) system. While the S-400 is best known for the 40N6 missile, which offers a range of up to 400 km, it is in fact a multi-layered solution comprising of various SAMs, including the 250 km 48NG, 120 km 9M96E2 and 40 km 9M96E.

Though Washington is opposing the sale, it appears that India is on-track to start receiving the S-400 after 2020, according to the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical-Cooperation.[1]

In addition to linking the S-400 into an integrated air defence ground environment (ADGE), which will see it draw on gap filler radars (to plugin blind spots of the S-400’s long-range, high-altitude radar), India will also deploy the Barak 8-based MRSAM platform at-scale through the 2020s. The baseline Barak 8 offers a range of up to 70 km.[2] Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) is also developing a long-range variant of the Barak-8, i.e., the Barak 8ER, which could potentially have a range of up to 150 km[3]…

Source:
https://quwa.org/2019/11/10/indias-air-defence-efforts-are-eroding-pakistans-offensive-ability-2/

Actually the bad thing for India is, that Pakistanis study these toys very well, and then we do what we did earlier this year.

 

[TNT]

So the PAF strikes woke them up... But again the lullaby of SAMs will put them to sleep in an imaginative superior state.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Compared to India's airdefence 5-10 years ago, it is actually going to be impressive the amount of SAM system, etc. going to be green lighted.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

What's ASELSAN KORAL, originally designed to subdue the Greek S-300, for??? Definitely it's "libraries" will be updated for S-400!! It's already battle proven in the Syrian theater (USA+Russia+Israil+France etc.) with 200km range...

Naval and airborne versions are being tested....

Pakistani drone will also come into equation as minimum operation level for s400 is 100 feet height, where as drone can fly lower than 100 feet. I think Pakistan is going to invest heavily in drone technology in coming years

Leverage the Turkish lead in UAVs fulfilling the entire spectrum...

Years ago, Turkish Air Forces trained against Azerbaijani S-300's... Russia didn't object. You know this systems all export variants, so it doesn't really create a big problem for Russia's own air defence.
So if they so choose, probably Pakistan can easly train her pilots against Turkish or Chinese S-400's... Russia won't care.

Export version is not equal to the indigenous version....

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

What's ASELSAN KORAL, originally designed to subdue the Greek S-300, for??? Definitely it's "libraries" will be updated for S-400!! It's already battle proven in the Syrian theater (USA+Russia+Israil+France etc.) with 200km range...

Naval and airborne versions are being tested....

Leverage the Turkish lead in UAVs fulfilling the entire spectrum...


Export version is not equal to the indigenous version....

So Koral can make S 400 useless if it is placed at maximum of 200 km from it?
Also Turkish, Chineese and Indian S 400 systems will be same?

@Khafee sir wats the update of F 16s which u talked about.

 

[Khafee]

What's ASELSAN KORAL, originally designed to subdue the Greek S-300, for??? Definitely it's "libraries" will be updated for S-400!! It's already battle proven in the Syrian theater (USA+Russia+Israil+France etc.) with 200km range...

Naval and airborne versions are being tested....

Leverage the Turkish lead in UAVs fulfilling the entire spectrum...


Export version is not equal to the indigenous version....

@Khafee sir wats the update of F 16s which u talked about.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why do you think PAF pilots get such opportunity??? Do you think Russia allows you to get train against such platform... how you going to train against???

Maybe, maybe not. But the Chinese certainly will..........

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

So Koral can make S 400 useless if it is placed at maximum of 200 km from it?
Also Turkish, Chineese and Indian S 400 systems will be same?

@Khafee sir wats the update of F 16s which u talked about.

It all depends....