Indian's Misunderstanding of Chinese/China!

[Righteous_Fire]

I dont know which Foreign Policy books u read,

The Real Life and neutral sources Dude! not India TV or NDTV !!

Where was the peaceful approch when china invaded Tibet

Tibet is China's internal issue, an integral part!! China doesnt "Invade" its own country, however you dont believe that, do you?

How many Princely States did India "INVADE", why did you "SEND" Troops to Kashmir???

If one sees in a religous propective,it had the semblance of forcing pope out of vatican or invadind Mecca??

What a nice simile!! that is how sensationalism speaks, not truth or reality or facts. India TV anyone!!

Let's come to my home country india...few people outside india know that india was offered perment membership of UN security council in 1950s by the then US president,but Nehru lobbied china's permanent memebership in the name of greater asian brotherhood.

Few years after china attacked india 1962,Nehru died of heart complications caused by stong feeling of betryal and breach of trust by china a country with which he had signed friendship (Panchasheel treaty) in atmosphere of " hindi chini bhai bhai"

Neutral reliable sources or it didnt happen!!!. I can say a thousand saintly words about myself, and for reference, Wiki is not reliable.

What about china aggression aganist Vietnam??
And decades old threats suffered by Taiwan aganist a communist china ??So much for calm and cool foreign Policy intitavies...

Vietnam?? prove from non western sources that China did any aggression in Veitnam? and Indian sources do not count here as well. Do you think CNN, BBC etc. etc. are fair and reliable??


Dude! google the filter their news goes through before it is put online or published!! . They are far from anything but fair and reliable.

As for Taiwan, for thousands of years it has been part of the mainland, whether it be trade, culture, language, whatever. Can you allow a non Indian to tell you that Assam is not part of India, because only in the Mughal end period did it have anything to do with Delhi. That, their language, culture etc. etc. is not Indian at all, when Taiwan is for China??

Last but not the least ,the plight of muslim Uyighar Xinjiang of The Second East Turkistan Republic came to an end when the chinese Army (PLA) entered Xinjiang in 1949 and named it Xinjiang or " new territory" in chinese as part of PRC
Xinjiang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Those riots were foreign funded semi intervention cum criminal activities to make China Muslim relations constrained. I am a Muslim and lemme give you my point of view:

"Any such criminal organizations with the Muslim front face to sabotage China should be dealt with strongly, no Chinese Muslim should support any anti China activity, just as no Indian Muslim should any anti India one, and if some fools think that other Muslims will support these criminal elements because they are Muslims, They are friggin wrong!!

I hardy see any concern for muslim Uyighars among pakistani memebers here...that its clear indication why muslim ummhah would never become a reality as at the end of the day self interests always overrides feeling of greater muslim brotherhood.

"A Criminal scum is a criminal scum, whether Hindu, Muslim or any one."

and that was a rhyme ha ha ha!!!

 

[grey boy 2]

righteous brother; Great post, thankyou.

 

[Khajur]

The Real Life and neutral sources Dude! not India TV or NDTV !!

India TV or ND TV are not foreign policy sources...nevertheless they are as reliable as any world media especially ND Tv.

Ur Real Life and neutral sources are severely inadequate and factually inaccurate.

Tibet is China's internal issue, an integral part!! China doesnt "Invade" its own country, however you dont believe that, do you?

integral part??yaa, go tell that millions of Tibetan refugees living in india or Tibetians living in occupied Tibet whose population is systematically reduced with heavy influx of han chinese.

It looks like ur neutral sources hardly gave u any insight in to the Tibetian dispute.

Vietnam?? prove from non western sources that China did any aggression in Veitnam? and Indian sources do not count here as well. Do you think CNN, BBC etc. etc. are fair and reliable??

Haha,this invariably proves immese knowledge about chinses foerign policy history . U see empy rant looks very stupid when combined with factual ignorace.

what indian,BBC,CNN are u talking about??
Sino-Vietnamese War is known to anyone with slightest interest in Chinese diplomacy.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

 

[luoshan]

Many Chinese still see India as their main enemy: Report

 

[feifanke]

probably we will sign some treaty with some india local government, maybe mumbai and New Delhi will be a part of china someday

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i don't think it is a good idea. I hate curry

 

[Hulk]

india is not the enemy,it's British Empire stealed china's territory while chinese were busy fight Fascism，india just insist they own those inheritance，india just support dalai separat tibet

No we do not support Dalali lama for seperate Tibet. We have told him clearly not to indulge in anti China acts. We do want peaceful terms with China. About land issues it is not easy after 70+ odd years.

 

[EjazR]

1947-1948 Sino-Mongolian border clashes
1950 Chinese conquers Tibet
1950-1953 Korean War
1954 Tibetan Rebellion
1954-1955 First Taiwan Straits Crisis
1956 Sino-Burmese border War
1958 Second Taiwan Straits Crisis
1959 Tibetan Rebellion
1962 Sino-Indian War
1969 Sino-Soviet border clash
1979-1980 Sino-Vietnamese War
1995-1996 Third Taiwan Straits Crisis

With a history like that, you can understand why Indians can be wary of China

 

[luoshan]

China reaches out on 60th anniversary - Times Online

On that score there are grounds for optimism. Speaking last week at the UN, the president pledged China for the first time to a significant reduction in carbon emissions, saying it would clean up its ruined environment and promising to fight global warming.

He also committed China to stop the spread of nuclear weapons, saying “all countries should strictly comply with non-proliferation obligations, refrain from double standards and tighten and improve export controls”.

Western diplomats find the new tone encouraging, coming from a country that gave the designs for its own atomic bomb to Pakistan in a cold-blooded move to weaken their joint rival, India.

However, China continues to protect North Korea, a treaty ally, and to argue against sanctions on Iran, a vital oil supplier. Its friends in Africa include President Omar Bashir of Sudan and Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe.

Not everyone in Beijing speaks in the silky language of the foreign ministry. Thursday’s parade is certain to provoke an outpouring of virulent nationalism. Curiously, the enemy most often spoken of is India. The censors permit alarmingly frank discussion on the internet of the merits of a war against India to secure the Tibetan plateau.

“Help the Maoists take over power in India to pay them back for hosting the Dalai Lama,” said one contributor.

Veterans who know the PLA from the inside say that despite all its shiny new kit, such grandiose ideas mask the reality of a force that has no recent battle experience and is riddled with corruption. They describe a system of bribes ranging from 10,000 yuan (£909) to get a good post for a private soldier to 30,000 yuan for a place at military college.

“Compared with our last war against India in 1962, our equipment is much better but the devotion to country and people of our officers and men is much worse,” said a retired officer, who cannot be named.

 

[luoshan]

1947-1948 Sino-Mongolian border clashes
1950 Chinese conquers Tibet
1950-1953 Korean War
1954 Tibetan Rebellion
1954-1955 First Taiwan Straits Crisis
1956 Sino-Burmese border War
1958 Second Taiwan Straits Crisis
1959 Tibetan Rebellion
1962 Sino-Indian War
1969 Sino-Soviet border clash
1979-1980 Sino-Vietnamese War
1995-1996 Third Taiwan Straits Crisis

With a history like that, you can understand why Indians can be wary of China

You forgot to mention 2 recent incidents wherein US and China clashed.
The first is the Hainan Island incident in South China sea in April 1, 2001 wherein a PLAAF plane collided with a US plane flying on international waters.
The Second one is just few months ago, again in south china sea involving a USN reconnaissance ship and PLAN.
Chinese 'harass' US Navy surveillance ship, Pentagon says

 

[Mirage2000]

Poor and pathetic Indians the chinees guy opened the thread to show and illustrate the normal thinking and mindset in china about India and tried to build trust but what Indians returned to him is rants and china bashing I guess till these kind of people live in India the IndoChina freindship and cooperation might remain a dream.

 

[Rajkumar]

hahahaha , i knew this is going to happen.

pipe down every body and lets have some smoke