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Ashura procession subjected to brutal torture in IHK - GEO.tv
SRINAGAR: Indian troops subjected a Muharram procession to heavy baton charge and excessive tear-gassing in Srinagar, this afternoon.

Over 80 mourners were injured when Indian troops used brutal force to disperse the procession at Budshah Chowk, which was marching towards Dalgate. Dozens of people including a religious scholar, Masroor Ansari were arrested.

The Chairman of All Parties Hurriyet Conference, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and senior Hurriyet leader, Maulana Abbas Ansari in their statements condemned the incident terming it as a clear violation of people’s religious rights.
 
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This soo sad we want a new kashmir i visited india

HUMAN RIGHTS AND KASHMIR


Those people across the globe, who had a chance to experience Kashmir’s, true spirit, have described it as a magical place, a heaven on earth. Pakistan founder Mohammad Ali Jinnah appropriately stated, “Kashmir calls back, its pull stronger then ever, it whispers its fairy magic to the ears, and its memory disturbs the mind.” The mighty yet calm snow-capped Himalayas, the beautifully decorated houseboats on Lake Dal, the aesthetically appealing apple orchards the aesthetically appealing apple orchards, and lovely hospitable people are some of the wonders that Kashmir has to offer. Thus it was, for British India, an escape from the simmering heat of the Indian plains. But this scenic seeing has been altered drastically over the past few decades. India and Pakistan have fought three major wars over the state of Jammu and Kashmir. Even though the chances of a direct confrontation between nuclear powers India and Pakistan may have been reduced, it seems that grave human rights violations continue to fuel the conflict and disrupt any peace initiatives.
Being the meeting point of communist China, Hindu India, and Muslim Pakistan, Kashmir is a power center. Russia and Britain nearly went to war over the region in late 1800’s. Kashmir has somewhat lost its magical luster and its breathtaking appeal, by being unnecessarily dragged into a long drawn conflict.
The history of the conflict dates back to days of the British rule in India. When the British announced their plan to partition India on 3rd june1947, and informed that princely state that Britain would not recognize any the as independent entities, and expected them to choose between India and Pakistan, Maharaja Hari Singh of Kashmir was told that he was free to choose between either country. Bt being a Hindu ruler of a predominantly Muslim population, he world do well to ascertain the wishes of his people before making a decision. Being unable to make a decision in such as short period of time, Hari Singh wanted independence for his state. Both India and Pakistan rejected the proposition.
Beneath the surface of this conflict lies the suffering of the people who consider themselves Kashmir’s, neither Indian nor Pakistani. During the last ten years, thousands of innocent people have lost their lives in Kashmir. Although official sources clain the number to be around 20,000, various non-governmental organizations put the number to be around 50,000.
“My entire family was burned out of their homes and my cousins was murdered,” said a 14 years old boy. Thought out the state such voices emanate time and again. Many people’s livelihood has also been affected. Due to heavy shelling by both Pakistanis and Indians troops, truck driver’s refuse to drive on highways close to the border. In turn, Kashmiri farmers suffer because their apples, apricots, plums and other produce are not collected and hence they don’t have money t survive. Entire villages have been destroyed due to shelling from both sides from the border, and thousands have been rendered homeless. The people of Kashmir have always relied heavily on tourism as their source of living. But ever since the conflict began, the number of tourists has dwindled so much that the once busy Lake Dal, which was a major tourist attraction because of its scenic beauty and its famous houseboats, lies deserted, its houseboats empty, and their owners struggling to feed their families.
The immense suffering and tragic tales of the people have led to Human Rights issues being at the forefront of any discussion on Kashmir. The basic rights and freedoms of the people are invariably denied as the security forces try to bring normalcy to the state. The frequent curfews restrict movement in the state, and the public rallies are immediately dispersed, often with force, in the fear of the militants using these rallies as a cover to carry out their violent missions. The reports buy Asia Watch and Physicians for human rights also listed widespread human rights abuses by the insurgents, including kidnapping, rape, extortion and murder, especially against suspected informers.
There have been many peace initiatives in the past, but subsequent acts of violence nullify any gains that are made in these peace talks. Gross human rights violations continue to fuel the conflict and whenever there is some hope, another incident of disrupts the peace process. Both countries have violated the sanctity of various agreements. The Simla agreement (jolly 1972) and Lahore peace talk (1999) as they both countries occupy several borders outposts other than those on their respective of the line of control.
There is enough evidence to support that the people of Kashmir have been suffering immense human rights abuses and this is a major factor in keeping the region in conflict and the people in the greater misery. As long as there continues to be militancy, there will be human rights abuses committed by them. The first step is to stop militancy in Kashmir. As we have seen for the past five decades, violence is not a solution to this conflict. Another major contributor to the problem is the atrocities committed in Kashmir by the Indian security forces. As is evident from the sources cited above, there is no doubt that the Indian forces are responsible for acts of kidnapping, disappearances, extortion, rapes and custodial deaths. The refusal of the Indian government to allow international watch groups like Amnesty International and International Committee of the Red Cross, which monitors the treatment of prisoners of war, has worsened the situation. Unless the issues of the Kashmiri people are addressed, the region may continue to be conflict.
 
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Muslims in India Encounter Intolerance, Scattered Violence

With the strength of the Hindu nationalist political movement polarizing religious communities in India over the last two decades, the Muslim minority has faced socioeconomic marginalization and at times been targeted by violent attacks.

When India was granted independence in 1947, and Pakistan split off to become a homeland for Muslims, India was set up as a secular country embracing pluralism. But that promise has not mirrored many minorities' real-life experiences.

"India is secular, so as a country they have celebrated their Muslims, but that does not usually apply to Indians themselves," said Meenakshi Ganguly, a Human Rights Watch researcher who has lived and worked in India for more than three years.

As the Bharatiya Janata Party, a Hindu nationalist party, gained momentum in the 1980s and then won the parliamentary majority from 1998 through 2004, "there was a campaign of hate that we still haven't seen the end of," Ganguly said.

"The BJP embraces, and has always embraced, the ideology of Hindu nationalism, which fundamentality believes that Hindus are the owners of the nation, and Muslims have a history of disloyalty and should not be given any privileges," said Ashutosh Varshney, a political science professor at the University of Michigan, and an expert on ethnic conflict in India.

While the party no longer holds the majority in parliament, it is still one of the most popular in the country and some states are still BJP run because of India's federal system. The experience of Muslims living in these states, including Gujarat, can be vastly different than those in other regions of the country.

"In South India, Muslims are more prosperous, less fearful. In North India it is more dangerous," said Theodore Wright, political science professor emeritus at State University of New York at Albany, who studies Muslims in India.

The outsiders within
At the time of partition, many Muslims chose to stay in India instead of moving to Pakistan for economic reasons, because they could not afford to make the long move or because of Indian nationalist sentiment.

"The creation of Pakistan meant that Muslims became the 'other'," said Ali Asani, a Harvard University professor of Indo-Muslim languages and culture. "Those Muslims that stayed back in India have always had this label."

In November 2006, a report commissioned by the Indian government on the status of the country's Muslims, who are the largest religious minority and make up 13.4 percent of the population, found that they had fallen behind even the lowest caste of Hindus, known as untouchables, in socio-economic indicators in some states.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's office summarized the findings of the report, saying the Muslim population is "relatively poor, more illiterate, has lower access to education, lower representation in public- and private-sector jobs."

In urban areas, Muslims are mostly relegated to "slums characterized by poor municipal infrastructure," the statement said. Much of the ghettoization seen in cities occurred when Muslims fled Hindu areas after incidents of violence.

The report issued recommendations to improve the status of Muslims, including establishing an Equal Opportunity Commission, and creating diversity incentives for education, employment and housing.

The Union Minister for Minority Affairs approved some of the recommendations in August 2007, but they have yet to be implemented.

Communal violence
Communal violence between Hindus and Muslims has deep roots in India and was particularly bad around the partition. Politically motivated riots aimed at Muslims intensified in the last decade as Hindu nationalist popularity grew.

The violence hit a high in 2002, when a train carrying Hindu activists was attacked by a Muslim mob and 58 were killed in a fire on the train. The incident set off riots around the country and as many as 2,000 Muslims were killed in Gujarat, the U.S. State Department's 2003 Report on International Religious Freedom documented.

In March 2006, a government commission determined the train fire was an accident rather than a Muslim conspired crime.

Regional experts and academics now refer to the violence that followed as a pogrom.

"The big-scale riots were state sponsored. There was deliberate targeting of Muslim stores and Muslim homes," said Human Rights Watch's Ganguly.

In the aftermath of the 2002 riots, India's National Human Rights Commission and the Supreme Court criticized the government of Gujarat for its weak prosecution of Hindus implicated in the violence.

Incidents of violence often are politically motivated with the goal of winning votes from Hindus or intimidating Muslims, but they are set off by an event such as the slaughter of a cow or an inter-faith couple eloping, said Wright.

At least every month, there is a new attack, Ganguly said. And the failure of the state to prosecute attacks by Hindus exacerbates the problem, she added.

"It feeds into Muslim anger. There are attacks by Muslims as well, but as a state you need to provide a sense of justice that the laws apply to all," she said.

In more recent incidents, the government has tried to fend off such riots. When terrorists attacked Hindu temples at the disputed site of Ayodhya and Varanasi in 2005, the government quickly spoke out to discourage riots by Hindus.

Christians and other minorities
Violence is not limited to Muslims and Hindus. The Christian population, which makes up about 2.3 percent of the country, has also been targeted by Hindus, and missionaries have been attacked sporadically.
"The argument is that [Christians] proselytize ... that, according to Hindu nationalist ideology, must be vigorously fought," said Varshney.

In 2006, the U.S. State Department's India Religious Freedom Report stated, "Some Hindu organizations and others frequently alleged that Christian missionaries lured converts, particularly from the lower castes, with offers of free education and health care."

Other reports show that Christians have been the target of forced conversions or re-conversions by Hindus. In 2005, the National Commission for Minorities asked the governments of Rajasthan and Maharashtra to stop forced reconversions in a response to attacks on Christians and a social boycott against Christians who didn't convert.

Smaller religious minorities in India, such as Buddhists and Sikhs, have had little issue with Hindus in recent years, in part because the religions are considered closer to Hinduism. While the federal government has publicly recognized and spoken about the need to give religious minorities more access to education and job opportunities, as well as protection from violence, the state and local governments are often not in line with the federal ideals, said Asani.

"There is recognition there is a problem. There have been committees and reports, sometimes the courts have even ruled, but the federal government tends to find its hands politically tied," said Asani.

work cited PBS
 
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Indian Army operates on proper instructions from higher officials. What ever they do in kashmir has a reason behind it. Now kashmir being ruled by muslim govt there is nothing to bring minority funda.

No reason for pakistan to make a big issue out of this. Better take care of ur part.

Public gatherings, including religious processions as well as marches by separatists, have not been allowed in Kashmir since a bloody rebellion against Indian rule broke out in 1989. Police said the mourners were led by a separatist group in Srinagar.

separatist is nothing but a TERROR! If u cant stay inside India throw ur butt out!
 
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Separatist leaders use these "religious processions" to launch violent protests, which end up in mass-vandalism and street fighting.
Later, they can claim that their religious rights are being violated.
 
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Separatist leaders use these "religious processions" to launch violent protests, which end up in mass-vandalism and street fighting.
Later, they can claim that their religious rights are being violated.

Muharram processions occurs all over the globe, its even allowed in UK. India claims to be secular but prevents people to follow their religion.

India's the biggest hypocricy of the world.
 
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SRINAGAR (Reuters) - At least 80 people were wounded on Tuesday when Indian police broke up a procession by thousands of Shi'ite Muslims in the disputed region of Kashmir, police said.

The procession was marking Ashura, a ritual period of mourning for Shi'ites marking the death of the grandson of the Prophet Mohammad.

Public gatherings, including religious processions as well as marches by separatists, have not been allowed in Kashmir since a bloody rebellion against Indian rule broke out in 1989.

The mourners, many beating their chests with their fists, chanted "La ilaha illalah" (There is no god but Allah). Police said the mourners were led by a separatist group in Srinagar, Kashmir's summer capital.

Stone throwing Shi'ites clashed with police in several parts of Srinagar after the procession was stopped, witnesses said, and police fired teargas.

"More than 150 people were detained," police officer Parvez Mohammed said.

During the first Muslim month of Muharram, Shi'ites across the world mourn the death of the Prophet's grandson Imam Hussein in the Iraqi city of Kerbala in 680.

Tuesday's procession in Srinagar was headed by members of Ittihad-ul-Muslimeen Jammu Kashmir, part of the region's main separatist alliance, the All Parties Hurriyat (Freedom) Conference.

"We strongly condemn the excessive use of force and police brutality," said Moulana Abbas Ansari, a leading Shi'ite priest and chief of Ittihad-ul-Muslimeen.

Officials say more than 47,000 people have been killed in two decades of violence involving Indian troops and Islamist militants in Kashmir. Separatists put the toll at 100,000.

Police stop Kashmir procession, 80 hurt | Top News | Reuters


Kashmiris cant even follow their religion in their own land.
 
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Did u hear any report of stopping these processions across the country. Do u think muslims are only in kashmir. National Interst and public safety comes first. PPl have misused the religion in kashmir and the terrors (seperatist) waiting for these occations. So military cant take a chance in this case.

YES kashmiris have lost their little freedom becouse of terrors. I agree.
 
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Did u hear any report of stopping these processions across the country. Do u think muslims are only in kashmir. National Interst and public safety comes first. PPl have misused the religion in kashmir and the terrors (seperatist) waiting for these occations. So military cant take a chance in this case.

YES kashmiris have lost their little freedom becouse of terrors. I agree.

That is quite true. The terrorists even used the mosque loud speakers (meant for calling prayer to God) to threaten the Kashmiri Pundits to leave the valley and indulged in ethnic cleansing. They also asked them to leave their women folk behind using the same loud speakers!

I see no protest against this misuse of religion and religious places. Such acts will invite retribution, only natural.

Nothing has happened in Kashmir that rivals that ethnic cleansing perpetrated by the fanatic terrorists. Making hundreds of thousands refugees in their own country!
 
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Why do I even bother? You Hindus will never understand Islam and dont understand how important Muharram processions are especially to Shia Muslims.
 
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These processions happen all over the country. No one stops them.

I am sure the separatists and terrorists tried to misuse them for their nefarious designs. Lets wait for the details to come out.
 
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I am sure the separatists and terrorists tried to misuse them for their nefarious designs. Lets wait for the details to come out.

Only you Hindus call those who take part in religious procession as separatists and terrorists, hindus will never understand Islam or Muslims.
 
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Only you Hindus call those who take part in religious procession as separatists and terrorists, hindus will never understand Islam or Muslims. dont understand how important Muharram processions are especially to Shia Muslims.

I have to mention that many hindu processions have stopped becouse of misusage or potential social abuse.
As i mentioned law and order is the responsibility of the commisioner. I dont know how it works exactly in kashmir. First is the public safety. If the commisoner thinks its a potenial threat then the police tryes to give protection...otherwise they will cancel.
In kashmir the govt decided not to have any religious functions including hindus and who ever.

Shia Muslims have to understnad the law of the land. RELIGION comes SECOND in India. if its important to them they have to keep it in their home. Same rule applies to Hindu too.
 
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Only you Hindus call those who take part in religious procession as separatists and terrorists, hindus will never understand Islam or Muslims.

No one is calling those who take part in religious procession as separatists and terrorists.

What likely happened is that the separatists and terrorists tried to take advantage of the gathering in religious procession for their nefarious designs.

Do you know that Indian Police records indicate that most communal riots used to start in India after the fiery Friday sermons? We all know how the fanatics in Bangladesh beat up a Hindu to death after such a sermon.

People should avoid misusing religion for their personal or political agendas.
 
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