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Indian strategy and our response

Indian are not buying Rs. 5 Parle biscuits, yet Smartphone sale is going through the roof. Double digit growth each year. Something not adding up perhaps ?

As far as Pakistani response is concerned, did Pakistan not support India for UN Security Council seat just a while back ? Just shows how fine tuned Pakistani establishment is wrt India.

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No wonder Pakistan's record in fighting cases in international arena is so dismal. This is the kind of useless advise establishment gets from "intelligentsia".
riiiight...double growth on paper that every independent institution in the world says are cooked up or m fudged numbers. and don't pee all yourself over the nonpermanent member seat, the seat itself means nothing and Pakistan supporting india for it just ..how do you say it...truck ki laal batti. :enjoy:
 
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riiiight...double growth on paper that every independent institution in the world says are cooked up or m fudged numbers. and don't pee all yourself over the nonpermanent member seat, the seat itself means nothing and Pakistan supporting india for it just ..how do you say it...truck ki laal batti. :enjoy:

That ".truck ki laal batti" did result abrogation of Article 37 and 35/A. So there is that. :cheesy:
 
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That ".truck ki laal batti" did result abrogation of Article 37 and 35/A. So there is that. :cheesy:
which took away the excuse for us to stop people from infiltrating...what happened to the 19th div goc maj general rawat? the 10 lost posts? the regional ammunitions depot? care to ask your goi? it's a free for all thanks to the abrogation...good luck stopping those who won in Afghanistan. :toast_sign:
 
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Another strategy can be
1.Like mosquito at night biting and sucking blood and because it's dark you cant see it and cant kill it but your sleep is ruined. You kill one next hour is another one . Internal freedom movement.
2. Like a fly during the day keep annoying you every moment especially when you trying to focus on something. You kill one here comes another. Diplomatic front.
3. Like a bee which is bothering you encircling your head at the moment you started to relax now you are annoyed. You are bit hesitant because bee can sting back at you. You can shake it off making it fly away by swinging around arm and shaking head but 10 seconds later it's back. Military front on LOC.
Make day night and evening so annoying that you are forced to find another place. Indians are like fox sitting next to lion(USA) thinking of herself as lion. One day lion will be hungry and will find a fat fox sitting there to devour.
Man, I really love the analogy you use to plot strategies to bother India like how bugs bother human beings.. Because in Truth, this is just that.. We have been happily swapping away all these insects and the entire ummah has long realized this. There is nothing new in any of this. Majority of Indias population is completely unaffected except when terrorist attacks kill innocents like what happened in Mumbai.We dont expect anything greater from you and the whole world is aware about whats going on under the surface and hypocrisy of statements from Pakistan. This is why nobody listens to you anymore on the global stage and simply give you lip service and nods to satisfy you. Even big brother and all weather friend China hasn't done anything significant because after the US-China trade war, they want to develop another market to rely on.

As for the Lion and Fox analogy - you are just jealous because the US has given up on you and realized what a blunder they made by trusting Pakistan for so many decades. India and US relationship is deep rooted in common values, cultural and economic exchange and friendship which is only bound to grow as two of the world's largest secular democracies.

The whole campaign about J&K has been nothing more than trying to get 8 birds in the bush rather than 7 in the hand and now the wise pious people are willing to lose all 7 just to show their stupidity to the world and the end result of building a nation purely on religious fervour.
 
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Man, I really love the analogy you use to plot strategies to bother India like how bugs bother human beings.. Because in Truth, this is just that.. We have been happily swapping away all these insects and the entire ummah has long realized this. There is nothing new in any of this. Majority of Indias population is completely unaffected except when terrorist attacks kill innocents like what happened in Mumbai.We dont expect anything greater from you and the whole world is aware about whats going on under the surface and hypocrisy of statements from Pakistan. This is why nobody listens to you anymore on the global stage and simply give you lip service and nods to satisfy you. Even big brother and all weather friend China hasn't done anything significant because after the US-China trade war, they want to develop another market to rely on.

As for the Lion and Fox analogy - you are just jealous because the US has given up on you and realized what a blunder they made by trusting Pakistan for so many decades. India and US relationship is deep rooted in common values, cultural and economic exchange and friendship which is only bound to grow as two of the world's largest secular democracies.

The whole campaign about J&K has been nothing more than trying to get 8 birds in the bush rather than 7 in the hand and now the wise pious people are willing to lose all 7 just to show their stupidity to the world and the end result of building a nation purely on religious fervour.
Lol I had another post right above the one you are quoting I'm sure you read that or atleast I hope you do.
1. Yup it's a Pakistani cheif minister saying "Now we can bring girls from Kashmir"
Low life scums of rape capital.
2. Giving highest award to a looser like Abhinanadan oh yeah we are so jealous of your vedic pilotva's.
3. World this world that who gives a shit but one thing every Indian should know that Pakistani dont give a damn about India anymore and every Pakistani is on same page thanks to chai wala.
4. Forget US a you Indians di*k riding Israel. It was your PM Modi who went around saying we will isolate Pakistan and events proved Pakistan cant be isolated by some chai wala drunk on some cow piss.
 
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Pakistan has no strategy to play. SSG commandos have always infiltrated IOK as regular civilian jehadis covertly. By abolishing 370 and 35A India has turned the status of Kashmir into Indian union territory. Now a complete lock down and search operation is underway to catch these jihadists. Proving them as SSG regulars will be burden of india but even if India catches 5-10 persons, it would have a heavier bargaining chip over Kulbhushan and it could be repeat of 1695 again. Hence why the entire Pakistani civil and military leadership is under hysteria of Indian attack threat. A limited war is very much a reality if above scenario plays true.
 
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Well!.As we all know the reason that why many countries are inclined towards india is bescause of their economy.Why would any country want india to move away from them ?. As india want's oil and the best option is Arab countries and the Arab countries want india to buy their oil bescause they focus on their economy,Moreover westren countries also want their economy to boost so they are offering india one of their best military equipment.As with Pakistan all countries know that Pakistan won't give them benefit as much as india will so they are avoiding Pakistan.
So we must focus on our economy and try to better our economically.Once our economy flourishes we'll regain our reputation,Then we can do something about kashmir.
Also our foreign relationships have gotten worse in past ~15 years so we must also focus on our foreign relationships as india's foreign relationships are far better than ours.
 
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https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...lution-on-kashmir-in-unhrc-1601036-2019-09-19


  • Pakistan hasn’t yet filed resolution on Kashmir at the ongoing UN Human Rights Commission
  • September 19 was the last day to file a request for a resolution during the 42nd UNHRC session
  • Sources said Pakistan was unable to garner minimum support of 16 nations for admission of request

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there were already lots resolutions on Kashmir on UNHRC, so why you need new resolution on Kashmir issue , you twit @Hephaestus
 
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So, what is the response?
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...lution-on-kashmir-in-unhrc-1601036-2019-09-19


  • Pakistan hasn’t yet filed resolution on Kashmir at the ongoing UN Human Rights Commission
  • September 19 was the last day to file a request for a resolution during the 42nd UNHRC session
  • Sources said Pakistan was unable to garner minimum support of 16 nations for admission of request

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So here is the thing.
If you Indians think it's fun and game Kashmir issue and Pakistan are just a Bollywood villains then I feel sorry for you poor souls. And here is why
You underestimate Pakistan's ability to fight you guys then you take this risk at your own peril. Because there is no guarantee that once shit hits the fan Pakistan might loose it and light your filthy shithole up and their is no guarantee that sanghi rats might survive and if these rats do they will be living in slumps under smoke of nuclear atmospheric conditions with no food no water and wishing for quick death as their skin peels of their body. That will be the time you will wish you should've thought it through. We Pakistani's are clear from day one their is one clear enemy and one hidden and Clear one is you always been you and with this current Nazi Modi regime we felt relieved that we never miscalculated about you being the enemy. Some pigeon lovers did but majority didnt. Mumbai attack about which I personally feel it was a horrific act but having said that your govt and security forces failed you that day couldnt handle few attackers who kept your main city hostage for days. Your army had no clue about Kargil and almost lost the whole sector if it wasn't for Vajpayee's diplomacy and Clinton's intervention. Come on man do you seriously seriously believe that your jets killed 350 guys in Balakot attack? You army claimed it I mean who told them to go and claim 350 they couldve said 50 60 so atleast their follow up story of PA cleaning the scene can make sense. How can you clean up 350 dead people in one night? I bet you if Pakistani Army claimed that they went in and killed 350 Indian soldiers via airstrike and Indians cleaned up the scene then we wouldn't believe them either because it sounds like a 6 year old child trying to make up a story. Anyways I'm not too interested in lecturing you but the point I think off is that Are you Indians really have become and I repeat become so delusional? If that's the case then I feel sorry for whole sub continent especially because this dream of Akhand Baharat keeps going then it wont be long before it will be Akhand nuclear wasteland Bahrat instead of being one of the most beautiful and blessed land on the planet.
 
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Rome wasnt built in a day but it was burnt down in a day. Take that and think about it.

You know where Pakistanies lose the plot.you guys concentrate more on Modi .As far as India is concerned it's not individuals it's the institutions which matter.
Hmm, no one cares about modi or whomever is India's PM. That is just the image the thought is connected too, but like all thoughts this one runs far beneath the surface. We're more intrested in the natural fault lines.
 
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Right after Prime Minister Imran Khan's visit to the United States, Indian government removed article 370 from Indian constitution in an effort to change the demography of occupied Kashmir region. Preparations for this change started many years back.

In the last 15 years, India kept us busy in our financial matters, developed relations with Afghanistan and Iran and surrounded us from all sides except from a small northern corridor that connects us with China. Not just India kept us busy with real terrorism by supporting elements thriving outside of Pakistan, it provided funds to the politicians and helped them stash money abroad, develop policies that proved harmful for Pakistan's economy in the long run and defame Kashmir struggle by forcing the world to believe that Kashmiris' demand to get the right of self determination is in fact terrorism. Unfortunately, Pakistan's poor performance in foreign affairs department gave our cunning neighbor a free hand when our state turned its eyes away from our traditional friends and let India develop diplomatic, social and economic ties.

So What's the Current Situation for Pakistan?

1 - India enjoys a preferential treatment when it comes to diplomatic and economic relations even among Muslim countries (including our time tested friends in GCC, and our western neighbors Iran and Afghanistan). There are a couple of exceptions though, i.e. China and Turkey. With China, India has some unsolved disputes and it is one major reason we have China still on our side. Turkey, one the other hand, is not a very powerful country and situated faraway, and thus India doesn't feel threatened by Turkey's actions. Be very clear, it wasn't Pakistan's excellent performance on diplomatic front that kept China and Turkey on our side. Pakistan has lost most of its traditional friends due to our worst diplomatic performance over the past 10-15 years.

2 - India is financially very strong with huge purchasing power and this inclines most of the countries to its side. Pakistan on the other hand has to take measures to reduce our imports further and this is not liked by many countries in the world. No one in the world cares about the innocent people being murdered all over the world, unless they are directly affected by the consequences. Kashmir is a faraway region and no one cares about it. In fact, the economic ties with India are more lucrative and give more dividends in the short and long run. Occasional demonstrations to remind the world about its moral obligations are not enough to get the much needed support.

3 - India is militarily much more stronger than Pakistan. With its current inventory and already signed contracts in all three branches of security forces, the gap is increasing rapidly. Moreover, India has access to more conventional weapon systems than Pakistan without exceptions. The whole world wants to sell its weapons and India has the cushion of choosing the better (if not the best) available weapons from any country, be it a S-400 air Defense system or fifth Generation fighter jets. Pakistan on the other hand has access to only Chinese weapons without restrictions. Other countries put caveats on the usage of weapons. This access to additional weapons is more favorable to India in case it decides to invade us and the conventional war extends to more than six months.

The above three situations provided extra ordinary confidence to India when it abolished Article 370 from its constitution. Many believe that while Pakistan was busy in negotiating a deal between US and Taliban, India received a go ahead from its western friends (including the United States) to play its final card on Kashmir.

What's the current situation for Kashmiris in Indian Occupied Kashmir

Because of India's strong position on diplomatic and economic fronts, we have not seen a strong response from the world condemning the human rights situation in IoK. The countries and international media outlets, which continued to report on Uighur Muslims multiple times a day due to their vested interests against China, have given less than 10% of the coverage of Kashmir in comparison. For them, Hong Kong is a bigger issue than Kashmir currently.

Kashmiris are being murdered, women are being raped and children are being abducted, and the whole world is just.. watching.

What are Indian Plans

Many of us are of the view that India is soon going to attack Pakistan. I respectfully do not share this standpoint and in my honest opinion, India will continue with its Genocide in Kashmir. Why I say this, following points may provide some merit to my opinion:

1 - Going to a war wiith Pakistan will internationalize this issue further and UNSC will have to, although unhappily, take up the issue and pass another resolution. It is in India's favor to continue with the genocide for the next several years and keep Pakistan on its toes on western and eastern borders.

2 - India has an extremely difficult to tackle unconventional weapon. Here I am not referring to nuclear option that even Pakistan has and can use that on India preemptively in case of war. The unconventional weapon I am talking about here is water. With article 370 gone, India believes that it is under no obligation to provide Pakistan's share of water as inked in Indus Water Treaty. India can easily destroy 1000s of hectres of ready crops in summers and block our rightful share of water in winter. In addition, the socio-economic impact of Indian water terrorism is so huge that Pakistan might post negative growth in the coming years if India fully takes control of the water. When a country has all the time and this type of unconventional weapon, it will be extremely unwise for it to go to war to defeat its enemy.

3 - Some people believe that India wants to capture AJK and GB and that's one of the reason of imminent Indian attack. I disagree with this point of view as well because Indian intention from the beginning is to convert LoC into international border. Indian plan is to keep the world unaware of the situation in IoK (even if there's free media in Kashmir, world will only focus on Hong Kong though) and push the refugees towards LoC so that Pakistani people pressurize Pakistan to accept and settle them in Pakistan. The recent statements from Indian terrorist politicians about kidnapping Kashmiri girls is part of this dirty plan because at one point, Kashmiris will prefer saving the dignity of their daughters and move to Pakistan rather than staying there and keep giving their innocent Kashmiri girls and children to Hindu terrorists. India may, however, apply the same tactics in other states which are protected till now under its constitution.

What are Pakistani options?

While the recent diplomatic offensive of Pakistan on India is great (although extremely late), it is simply not enough to stop India from implementation of its plans. At one point, world will stop reading Prime Minister Imran Khan's tweets and UN/ SC will start ignoring Pakistani requests of intervening in the region. Pakistani options are extremely limited:

1 - For the sake of Kashmiris, try to convince them to accept India constitution and live like other Muslims of India. On the surface, this option seems quite reasonable and beneficial for Kashmiris. However, given the nature of Hindu terrorists, it might give them a false indication that Pakistan can now be subjugated further. In my opinion, if Pakistan takes this route, it will be disintegrated.

2 - Strike a deal in Afghanistan quickly and form an alliance with Taliban. The only Muslims who have the will to help and support Muslims of other parts of the world are Taliban. However, we will have to support them in return whenever they need our support in future in return. As a Pakistani, I believe that when we require help, everything becomes halal.. All the support that comes from our friends is welcomed. However, when others expect something from us, we become neutral. Anyway, Pakistan and Taliban have an excellent working relationship as we can see Pakistani influence in the peace talks, we can safely assume that they will be willing to fight alongside Pakistanis in the gorilla war. It will take some time, but will eventually get us results. There's, however, a downside of this strategy. We will become financially extremely weak in the process. FATF will blacklist us on Indian demand and we will not be able to trade with a lot of countries freely.

3 - Consider water terrorism as an attack on Pakistan. Tell the world that Pakistan has lost a lot of people, livestock, crops and whatnot due to Indian unconventional attack on Pakistan using water and it is an attack on Pakistan's sovereignty. Allah swt has given Pakistan yet another reason to launch a counter attack. World will not condemn Pakistan fully if Pakistan attacks on dams and completely destroys them in the process as there is an ample evidence of Indian water terrorism. In response, Indian will either attack Pakistan or increase its genocide. If India attacks Pakistan, Pakistan's objective will be achieved. If not, Pakistan should do a false flag attack on Pakistani soil.. and attack India again.

Remember guys, India fear the war more than Pakistan.. The recent progress they achieved in the last decade will reverse. Foreign investment will reduce, tourism sector will destroy, and the loss to India will be at least 50 times more than Pakistan. We know that in the process, we Pakistanis may go instinct, but the world will remember Pakistan as a dignified nation rather than a hapless coward nation. Other countries will also learn a thing or two of how to prefer a dignified death. We are a nation of Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihe Wasallam, and our ancestors include Abu Bakr Siddiq, Umar Bin Khattab, Uthman Ghani, Ali bin Abi Talib, Khalid Bin Walid, Hassan and Hussain and many other Sahaba (Radiallahu Ta'ala Anhum) and people like Muhammad Bin Qasim, Nooruddin Zangi, Sultan Salahuddin Ayubi, Sultan Mehmood Ghaznavi, Tipu Sultan, and many more.. and our recent example is Muhammad Ali Jinnah, who attacked Kashmir without thinking about the consequences and snatched a large part of Kashmir during his lifetime.

Just remember: A coward dies hundred times a day, the brave meets death but once


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In Sha Allah Imran Khan will done Kashmir Issue
 
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