Indian strategy and our response

[Lasit Borphukan]

Now, from the higher pedestal of "to live like civilized human beings", you have come down to your real level of petty politics.

No Brother, i live far away geographically, nor do i come here with hatred. Just trying to highlight what seems to be a realistic situation to me... you have all the rights to differ on that, and that is what we are doing for last 70 years and will be doing may be another 70 years ..

 

[SIPRA]

...... and that is what we are doing for last 70 years and will be doing may be another 70 years ..

Of course. Now, you have arrived at the correct conclusion.

 

[xyx007]

LoL bro nothing will happen.

Its no use posting about kashmir. We are done, kashmir is gone.. They took it right under our noses.

We should say goodbye to conventional warefare where we had three Indo-Pakistani conflicts (1947-48, 1965, and 1971) were all characterized by a low threshold of violence, limited scope, and short duration. A number of factors explain the limited extent of these conflicts: the common British imperial heritage, the lack of doctrinal innovation, and the paucity of highly sophisticated weaponry. Although these three factors are no longer relevant today, the current recrudescence of violence in Kashmir is unlikely to lead to another full-scale war between India and Pakistan because, oddly enough, the incipient the nuclearization of the region has introduced a level of stability at higher levels of violence. Only through misperception, miscalculation, and inadvertence could war once again erupt between these two states. As The New Rules of Modern War declares, “Victory belongs to the cunning, not to the strong. The New Rules of War is that we need to learn how to fight in the shadows without losing its soul, or it will continue to get sucker-punched by autocracies. That is why the Bajwa doctrine is evolving and making the accountability and transparency of our political system are fundamental attributes of representative government to win this war. in this new warfare Authoritarianism returned, nation-building failed, and China emerged as a new strategic power in the world.

 

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[masterchief_mirza]

Its funny to know that people live in their parallel universe. If i could have taken you back to 1989, you might had already crossed all your 20 fingers in anticipation of Kashmiri freedom by 1992 or 1993... but it has been 30 years since Pakistanis like you saw the first silver-lining of new dawn in Kashmir ..

Did you also think India could behave like mini-Israel and conduct surgical strikes into Pakistani mainland sovereign territory on a mere whim? How did that work out for you?

India will learn plenty more lessons in statecraft from the descendants of the Indus Valley Civilization yet.

 

[Khurram2349]

Further to my thread " Options available for Pakistan against Indian move on Kashmir" , I like to start another thread focusing on just one option which Pakistan may take and the consequences of this option.

The option is that since India has revoked the Independent and disputed status of Indian Occupied Jammu Kashmir and made it part of its Union , then why not Pakistan also do the same and make our Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan as part of our Federation and make it a province or provinces of Pakistan ?

The Assemblies of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan can pass resolution and decide to join Pakistan and become part of the Federation . This way at least Pakistan will have legal control of our own side of disputed territory .

I am sure our friendly countries like China will also support this move as then CPEC would be going through legal territory of Pakistan and not through any disputed territory .

As for rest of the world and so called our Muslim brotherly countries , no one gave any damn or made any effort to stop India from changing the status of Indian Occupied Kashmir and there is hardly any serious effort and pressure on by any super power or International forum to stop India from abusing human rights in Kashmir . I am sure if Pakistan takes full control of its own side of Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan there will not be any international issue at all .

In my humble opinion Pakistan should at least take control of our own Azad Kashmir and GB just like Indians have done with Indian Occupied Kashmir and then see what happens after wards ! Leaving Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan still as disputed area where as Indians claiming this region to be theirs and threatening to attack to get it by force , will be too dangerous and may cause Pakistan to loose what they have in their hand now !

 

[BATMAN]

Pakistan shall try first banning transit of Indian goods and flights for at least 5 years.

 

[GHALIB]

Further to my thread " Options available for Pakistan against Indian move on Kashmir" , I like to start another thread focusing on just one option which Pakistan may take and the consequences of this option.

The option is that since India has revoked the Independent and disputed status of Indian Occupied Jammu Kashmir and made it part of its Union , then why not Pakistan also do the same and make our Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan as part of our Federation and make it a province or provinces of Pakistan ?

The Assemblies of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan can pass resolution and decide to join Pakistan and become part of the Federation . This way at least Pakistan will have legal control of our own side of disputed territory .

I am sure our friendly countries like China will also support this move as then CPEC would be going through legal territory of Pakistan and not through any disputed territory .

As for rest of the world and so called our Muslim brotherly countries , no one gave any damn or made any effort to stop India from changing the status of Indian Occupied Kashmir and there is hardly any serious effort and pressure on by any super power or International forum to stop India from abusing human rights in Kashmir . I am sure if Pakistan takes full control of its own side of Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan there will not be any international issue at all .

In my humble opinion Pakistan should at least take control of our own Azad Kashmir and GB just like Indians have done with Indian Occupied Kashmir and then see what happens after wards ! Leaving Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan still as disputed area where as Indians claiming this region to be theirs and threatening to attack to get it by force , will be too dangerous and may cause Pakistan to loose what they have in their hand now !

pakistan should strengthen it's economy .

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Further to my thread " Options available for Pakistan against Indian move on Kashmir" , I like to start another thread focusing on just one option which Pakistan may take and the consequences of this option.

The option is that since India has revoked the Independent and disputed status of Indian Occupied Jammu Kashmir and made it part of its Union , then why not Pakistan also do the same and make our Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan as part of our Federation and make it a province or provinces of Pakistan ?

The Assemblies of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan can pass resolution and decide to join Pakistan and become part of the Federation . This way at least Pakistan will have legal control of our own side of disputed territory .

I am sure our friendly countries like China will also support this move as then CPEC would be going through legal territory of Pakistan and not through any disputed territory .

As for rest of the world and so called our Muslim brotherly countries , no one gave any damn or made any effort to stop India from changing the status of Indian Occupied Kashmir and there is hardly any serious effort and pressure on by any super power or International forum to stop India from abusing human rights in Kashmir . I am sure if Pakistan takes full control of its own side of Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan there will not be any international issue at all .

In my humble opinion Pakistan should at least take control of our own Azad Kashmir and GB just like Indians have done with Indian Occupied Kashmir and then see what happens after wards ! Leaving Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan still as disputed area where as Indians claiming this region to be theirs and threatening to attack to get it by force , will be too dangerous and may cause Pakistan to loose what they have in their hand now !

Militarization of Pakistani society is a necessity now, as war is right around the corner. We need to expand training of civilians and maybe start thinking about mandatory military service. The economic situation is perilous and unstable, we need to get it under reins. Internal divisions need to be ironed out with a boot, here I mean those parties joining against our state - N, PPP, JUIF, ANP/PTM, MQM, Q, TLP, JI.

A strong national narrative needs to be inculcated along the lines of PTI, ISI, and Pak military. Traitors need to be taken care of, no matter in which part of the world they reside. If they cannot be prosecuted, our spies need to take them out to send a message to all other wannabe traitors.

I am glad Pakistan intelligence is finally going after social media accounts and facilitators of terrorism. Ideally, every checkpoint should have female security personnel and a private room to investigate suspicious females.

Furthermore, it is sad to say, but the rape gangs who are running rampant in some parts of Pakistan (such as Kasur) need to be taken care of ASAP. Preferably, they need to be given harsh punishments, even in public, to dissuade the predators in our society. Shopping centers, bazaars, streets, buses, and other places need to have undercover security personnel or uniformed police to take care of sexual harassment and cat-calling with harsh punishments and public shaming. This will restore public confidence in the state.

 

[Lincoln]

Militarization of Pakistani society is a necessity now, as war is right around the corner. We need to expand training of civilians and maybe start thinking about mandatory military service. The economic situation is perilous and unstable, we need to get it under reins. Internal divisions need to be ironed out with a boot, here I mean those parties joining against our state - N, PPP, JUIF, ANP/PTM, MQM, Q, TLP, JI.

A strong national narrative needs to be inculcated along the lines of PTI, ISI, and Pak military. Traitors need to be taken care of, no matter in which part of the world they reside. If they cannot be prosecuted, our spies need to take them out to send a message to all other wannabe traitors.

I am glad Pakistan intelligence is finally going after social media accounts and facilitators of terrorism. Ideally, every checkpoint should have female security personnel and a private room to investigate suspicious females.

Furthermore, it is sad to say, but the rape gangs who are running rampant in some parts of Pakistan (such as Kasur) need to be taken care of ASAP. Preferably, they need to be given harsh punishments, even in public, to dissuade the predators in our society. Shopping centers, bazaars, streets, buses, and other places need to have undercover security personnel or uniformed police to take care of sexual harassment and cat-calling with harsh punishments and public shaming. This will restore public confidence in the state.

This I agree with. Military training should be made must and gun laws in Urban areas should be eased. Shooting ranges should be erected.

However its a very thin thread to follow. I think Netherlands (maybe or maybe sweden, i don't remember, or mb Switzerland) has a population with over >80% owning weapons but there are no gun shootings there due to fantastic laws and customs built around owning a weapon.

 

[Yaseen1]

india is testing all nuclear missiles in its inventory these days which shows they are seriously preparing for all out war as their economy is facing decline now they will wage war for satisfying their public so we have very little time left and should get ready for nuclear war

 

[Signalian]

Militarization of Pakistani society is a necessity now

 

[Crusher]

Further to my thread " Options available for Pakistan against Indian move on Kashmir" , I like to start another thread focusing on just one option which Pakistan may take and the consequences of this option.

The option is that since India has revoked the Independent and disputed status of Indian Occupied Jammu Kashmir and made it part of its Union , then why not Pakistan also do the same and make our Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan as part of our Federation and make it a province or provinces of Pakistan ?

The Assemblies of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan can pass resolution and decide to join Pakistan and become part of the Federation . This way at least Pakistan will have legal control of our own side of disputed territory .

I am sure our friendly countries like China will also support this move as then CPEC would be going through legal territory of Pakistan and not through any disputed territory .

As for rest of the world and so called our Muslim brotherly countries , no one gave any damn or made any effort to stop India from changing the status of Indian Occupied Kashmir and there is hardly any serious effort and pressure on by any super power or International forum to stop India from abusing human rights in Kashmir . I am sure if Pakistan takes full control of its own side of Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan there will not be any international issue at all .

In my humble opinion Pakistan should at least take control of our own Azad Kashmir and GB just like Indians have done with Indian Occupied Kashmir and then see what happens after wards ! Leaving Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan still as disputed area where as Indians claiming this region to be theirs and threatening to attack to get it by force , will be too dangerous and may cause Pakistan to loose what they have in their hand now !

The top leadership in every power circle of pakistan mostly consist of people of indian ancestral origins, they will never heart the interests of their beloved india, so whatever you are saying is not going to happen unless the PM/COAS of Pakistan belong to some families whose origins lie in Azad Kashmir or Gilgit Baltistan which isn't going to happen.

 

[544_delta]

release more cheesy ispr content, do a protest rally and an item number or two. oh and lets not forget to give extension to the cutting edge wit behind all these earth shattering doctrines.

 

[Signalian]

release more cheesy ispr content, do a protest rally and an item number or two. oh and lets not forget to give extension to the cutting edge wit behind all these earth shattering doctrines.

somebody is deeply hurt ................................