Indian state bans beef, introduces jail time for possession

[coffee_cup]

Cow slaughter is insulting to Hindus and not mandatory to Islam. so Insulting Hinduism is not allowed as per secular law where is there is no restriction on Islam. Its a good step.


Nope. First ban then good habitat. Or do it simultaneously.

Hypothetically speaking: Worshiping idols is insulting to Muslims, Christians and Jews.

Should that mean it should be banned as well in every country where Hindus are in minority?

You can not have it both ways. Either declare yourself Hindu Republic of India and do whatever the fanatics sitting in the govt. want you to do. Or if you still want yourself to be called a secular state, stop forcing hindu laws on other minorities.

Simple as that.

 

[Manindra]

prohibiting abattoirs is different from maharashtra's case where even personal possession of the meat will be punishable and tracked to source...

Quote this thread after 2 years .
Beef business would be nearly double then current one. These are some fake rhetoric to gain some vote as your own saying that religion of capitalists are money.

 

[Samudra Manthan]

Let me tell you village story of U.P.
Every farmer want a cow nobody want bull & ox (Thanks to tractors) & after getting old cows are also become burden.
So, our cow loving farmers kick them out & these cattle start grazing on farm field & destroying harvest.
Now , our cow loving farmers caught them & put petrol in their Anus.
Do you know how much pain petrol do in your internal organ do ?
Its a same amount of Halal slaughter but without death.
And in this process all our cow loving people are involved who are active members of BJP, VHP, RSS, Bajrang Dal & Hindu Yuva Vahini ? So hypocrisy.

Yeah, give one off anecdotal references and extend them to the whole farming community. That is a very logical nonhypocritical thing to do of course.

Also can you give me the links for how many cows in UP have petrol in their Anus? Has it become a tradition? Also do provide links for BJP, RSS, Bajrang Dal, Hindu Yua Vahini doing this.

 

[Luca1]

Cow slaughter is insulting to Hindus and not mandatory to Islam. so Insulting Hinduism is not allowed as per secular law where is there is no restriction on Islam. Its a good step.


Nope. First ban then good habitat. Or do it simultaneously.

We slaughter cows here in FL. Is that an insult to Hindus? If so, what would you do about it? Protest in front of US embassy?

 

[Samudra Manthan]

There is a difference here. Muhammad is an individual. Where as cows are every where and is a source of food for others. Maybe Hindus can pick a specific holy cow that no one can slaughter but allow others to be consumed.

Muhammed is dead and gone and cannot be hurt by anyone's criticism. The cows are living beings and their lives are important.

 

[Bang Galore]

There is a difference here. Muhammad is an individual. Where as cows are every where and is a source of food for others. Maybe Hindus can pick a specific holy cow that no one can slaughter but allow others to be consumed.

Nope. The point is that it causes offense. If you insist that others should not be allowed to cause offense to your sensibilities than the reverse too stands. One cannot be allowed to decide what can & cannot cause offense to others after applying a different standard of that principle when it came to oneself

 

[Manindra]

Hypothetically speaking: Worshiping idols is insulting to Muslims, Christians and Jews.

Should that mean it should be banned as well in every country where Hindus are in minority?

Christian :- You didn't visit any Church yet

Jew : Only nation they are in Majority is State of Israel where Hindus are not Present.
Muslim : Well its surprising that Hindus survive their either eating in public place in Ramzan get execute you.

 

[Viny]

Sorry guys, this is going to be a long one ...

why should successive indian governments have made india the biggest armaments/military-systems importer in the world ??

Because when we got freedom, we didnt even had capacity build sewing needles.
Majority of population was living a life worse then slaves and nation had faced worst epidemics in decades before independence. Thus entire country was weak on economical, technological an well as wellness, hence most of the focus was on building up nation and its health.

why did successive indian governments allow construction of useless ( and now failed ) offices for the info.tech/services industry and the flyovers and roads needs for them ??

Can you cite some failed projects that where implemented and not where just on papers.

infosys company ( one of india's top five it companies ) has had suicides because of its policies and way of "working"... why was this company not shut down ??

Do you how big companies work?
Have you checked the list of companies globally who have more than 100,000 employees and suicide rates?
Do you know how many people committed suicide in GOOGLE the so called worlds best employer or for that matter FOXCONN the OEM manufacturer of APPLE and the worlds largest electronics manufacturing company.
Read this Foxconn suicides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

after all, what is it but a coolie company doing coolie jobs for western corporations.

By your logic all the armed forces are doing coolie job as you pay taxes to govt to to safeguard you who in turn outsources the job to Armed Forces.

what is more important, (a). people's welfare, (b) temporary profits and war posturing ??

You need to know economics, politics and war tactics.
A fair combination of people welfare and war posturing along with temp benefits have to be established for overall growth. you cannot have just one thing in hand and leave others.

we have forgotten farmer gajendra singh and his ranting from that tree in delhi from two months ago.

And I guess you have forgotten what happened after it in media.

1. no other society forced india to have a 1.35 billion population out of which most of it is a young male population... millions of girl children have been killed before birth or after, just since the early 80's when ultra-sound machines were introduced into india by usa government... india has no one else to fault but itself, and it should try to radically change rather than keep quoting population figures... there should be a immediate ban on males being born in india for the next 20 years... why can't modi have said this in his "selfie with daughter" idea ??

So what do you propose for those girls who are born during those 20 yrs.
Thankfully some of the idiots sitting on parilament benches in there worse form also makes statements better than these ones.

2. the natural resources are being exploited for transitory capitalist needs rather than for real welfare of people... i described this in the section just above.

Kindly give a detailed proposal along with vis-a-vis analysis of current government project and how your ideas could be better then those.

3. the "man power" is questionable, with no real skills, because of which modi could only forward "make in india" rather than "made in india".

You cannot build human skills by just tuning some radio frequency.
You forgot the share of agriculture in indian economy when it got independence and the current share of same.
If the share is fallen its all because of development of soft skills and technical skills that people are now being able to work outside core farming. And thats why you see the rise of many veritcals like pharma, IT, Biotech, metalurgy etc.

4. this tags with the previous point... a people lacking in real analytical skills and fear of risk-taking have not allowed india to be a technology creator... can you name one indian operating system, microprocessor and crewed space capsule ( like spacex dragon v2 ) ??

Can you name 5 countries on this planet out of 192+ that have built
1. OS thats commonly used
2. Microprocessor thats commonly used
3. Crewed space capsules?

Farting nukes from big hole at backside is easier then acutally reading and knowing.
Indians are major contributors to leading OS globally. Check the Linux community, see the Microsoft Development and Research Center.
Do you know Vinod Dham, he is indian and known as Father of Pentium Chips (INTEL)

5. compare the indian irrigation system to history's biggest irrigation system, the "great man-made river" project from the libyan jamahiriya... isn't it also a failure of the indian irrigation system and non-scientific farming methods that has mostly led to farming suicides, arsenic/fluoride-ridden ground-water poisoning and chaotic water delivery to cities ??

Did you ever read about Indian Green Revolution?
India’s irrigation covered crop area was about 22.6 million hectares in 1951, and it increased to a potential of 90 million hectare at the end of 1995, inclusive of canals and groundwater wells and which as of 2012-13 is expected t rise upto 122million hectare.

Please note all this irrigation facility was not paid by oil money.

6. space... name how many indians went to space and how ??

You are one of those who go to college with mission of getting best education.
But cribes about how many girl friends one mades in college.
India's space program was never focused on pushing man into space. so why should we bother about that?

7. nuclear power is obsolete and dangerous, as evidenced by the fukushima disaster just four years ago.

Ya Coal fumes are making you high, and what will you do when fossil fuels are no more or are way to costly?
Unless you suggest some extraterritorial, safe to use and ultra cheap source of power.


@other once again sorry for long rant , but had to pen it down ...

 

[Manindra]

Yeah, give one off anecdotal references and extend them to the whole farming community. That is a very logical nonhypocritical thing to do of course.

Also can you give me the links for how many cows in UP have petrol in their Anus? Has it become a tradition? Also do provide links for BJP, RSS, Bajrang Dal, Hindu Yua Vahini doing this.

In my native area in eatern U.P. And leader of this area is

And the people who do this are active member of Yogi Adityanath's Hindu Yuva Vahini

 

[Samudra Manthan]

In my native area in eatern U.P. And leader of this area is

And the people who do this are active member of Yogi Adityanath's Hindu Yuva Vahini

Excuse me? This is your link? This speaks a lot of your credibility, nay lack of it. So you have proof that Yogi Adityanath's Hindu Yuva Vahini is putting petrol in cow's anus? If not, be ready to eat your words and choke on it.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

We slaughter cows here in FL. Is that an insult to Hindus? If so, what would you do about it? Protest in front of US embassy?

FL is not in India. Its your country. You can slaughter. Its insulting. And dont worry, Unlike muslims, we willnot do Charli Hebdo or Cartoon attack in US.

Hypothetically speaking: Worshiping idols is insulting to Muslims, Christians and Jews.

Should that mean it should be banned as well in every country where Hindus are in minority?

You can not have it both ways. Either declare yourself Hindu Republic of India and do whatever the fanatics sitting in the govt. want you to do. Or if you still want yourself to be called a secular state, stop forcing hindu laws on other minorities.

Simple as that.

Not hypothetically. Just tell me directly whether worshiping idols by Hindus is insult to Islam or not. Then I will answer your question. Not hypothetically, just pure truth.

 

[Manindra]

Excuse me? This is your link? This speaks a lot of your credibility, nay lack of it. So you have proof that Yogi Adityanath's Hindu Yuva Vahini is putting petrol in cow's anus? If you be ready to eat your words and choke on it.

Oh, then I would quote the Hindu link then ?
Since when our Indian media start reporting from a village of this type of news.
Anyone from Gorakhpur rural are can confirm these kind of brutality done on animals.

 

[Ajit Kumar]

And in 2 or three years they would eat plastics & surprisingly survive.

They are being slaughtered for more than 68 years. So let it be another 2-3 years.

 

[Luca1]

Nope. The point is that it causes offense. If you insist that others should not be allowed to cause offense to your sensibilities than the reverse too stands. One cannot be allowed to decide what can & cannot cause offense to others after applying a different standard of that principle when it came to oneself

As another poster point out, worshipping idols is offensive to Christianity. Do if we choose to Ban idol worshipping and close down Hindu temples in the U.S., would you be offended?

 

[Samudra Manthan]

Oh, then I would quote the Hindu link then ?
Since when our Indian media start reporting from a village of this type of news.
Anyone from Gorakhpur rural are can confirm these kind of brutality done on animals.

Oh right, media of course will not report animal cruelty done by Hindu organizations because they are so much enamoured of Hindu organizations. The shame of people like you lying blatantly.

As another poster point out, worshipping idols is offensive to Christianity. Do if we choose to Ban idol worshipping and close down Hindu temples in the U.S., would you be offended?

You can do what you want in your country. If you want to ban idol woshipping take it up with your Catholics, ban it, and then come to preach us.