Indian Sikhs Seek a Ban on Sikh Jokes

[Samandri]

Muslims from Central Asia made these Sikh jokes.Because the Sikhs would do Guerilla type attacks on Muslims who were going back with loot(money,women and slaves just what ISIS is doing now).They gave these marauders sleepless nights and attack in the night because they knew the Muslims would be dead drunk or too drugged in the night after their celebrations and partying.So from there comes the sikh jokes.
They say "Baara baj gaye Sardaar ji aa jaayenge"( it means 12.o clock has passed in night, this is the time the Sikhs will attack) They would torture these Invaders without sleep to be ever vigilant.
Pathans are nowhere in this thing, the poster is somehow trying to create a link between pathans and Sikhs, because he thinks they are martial.
When Sikhism was founded ,he recruited 5 Hindus as his prime disciples.One of those disciples happen to be from South IndIan, AP.
So i dont understand the Pathan chest beating as some martial group, born to fight,which many Pakistanis do here or invoke.They definitely dont amuse us, maybe it might amuse outsiders like you etc..

No such heroic "guerrilla" type attacks by Sikhs against central asians occurred in history, Sikhs themselves were the biggest plunderers and marauders in this region. Their "Jathas" used to sack the villages not only Punjab but also the adjacent regions in east, present day Hariyana, Delhi, Western U.P etc. So the "Urdu belt" was having sleepless nights due to invasions and rapine of Sikhs in their region, so they contented themselves with 'Sikh Jokes"......There is no such thing as "martial race", circumstances converted peaceful Sikhs into militants. And Goru Gobind Singh's Khalsa, was inspiration from warrior code of Afghans (who you people call Pathans), who had colonies in some regions of Punjab. Their revenge seeking spirit became darker with Banda Singh Bahadur. Sikhs were not "warriors", they were fanatic militants who got addicted to blood lust.

 

[punit]

So the Indians I have been hanging out with and laugh out loud on Pathan jokes are fake Indians? So this is a new test to check ones Indianess. Tell him a Pathan joke if he laughs his Indianess is questionable.

FOR INDIANS Pathan is some one lives beyond the border of Pakistani Punjab. The common image of a Pathan in indian mind is a : huge, fearless, loyal ( as friend), and simple folk. U WONT FIND MANY Pathan jokes in Indian except in Indian Punjab!

 

[Samandri]

FOR INDIANS Pathan is some one lives beyond the border of Pakistani Punjab. The common image of a Pathan in indian mind is a : huge, fearless, loyal ( as friend), and simple folk. U WONT FIND MANY Pathan jokes in Indian except in Indian Punjab!

I dont think most of the Indians are familiar with Pashtuns. The old ones, in Northern India, have memories of "Kabuliwalas", selling stuff on their streets (there was also some movie made about it)........the Pathan in their mind is any one with Khan surname....the two words Khan and Pathan have become almost synonymous in India, even though Khan is Turko-Mongol title and most of the "Khans" in Indian history, were actually non-Pashtuns. In some regions , Pathan is even synonymous with Muslim, e.g Orissa (read that in Sir Jadunath Sarkar's history of Bengal), as first major Muslim penetration in the region was by Pashtuns in 1567.

Most of the stereotypes and particular image about Pathans (Akhroat, Soodkhor etc) stems from Mughal-ruled Delhi and Awadh, both were in conflict with Pashtun settlers in Doaba and surroundings in 18th century, and resented their dominance. Its Delhi and Lucknow based Muslim urdu literature, which portrays Pashtun in negative light. Though the widely circulated Pathan jokes of today, are simply edited 'Sikh jokes"..........the culprits again are those Pakistanis with roots from Awadh and Delhi. They , Ahle-i-zuban, could not digest the fact that Ahmad Faraz, some one from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, is famous poet of their mother tongue urdu, so didnt spare the dead man and invented "Ahmad Faraz: jokes......they didnt know that Ahmad faraz was actually a Hindki from Kohat city.

The only Urdu literature, which talks postively about Pashtuns, is one which stems from Bhopal. Rohilkhand, Farrukhabad etce, the regions once ruled and peopled by Pashtuns.

 

[punit]

I dont think most of the Indians are familiar with Pashtuns. The old ones, in Northern India, have memories of "Kabuliwalas", selling stuff on their streets (there was also some movie made about it)........the Pathan in their mind is any one with Khan surname....the two words Khan and Pathan have become almost synonymous in India, even though Khan is Turko-Mongol title and most of the "Khans" in Indian history, were actually non-Pashtuns. In some regions , Pathan is even synonymous with Muslim, e.g Orissa (read that in Sir Jadunath Sarkar's history of Bengal), as first major Muslim penetration in the region was by Pashtuns in 1567.

Most of the stereotypes and particular image about Pathans (Akhroat, Soodkhor etc) stems from Mughal-ruled Delhi and Awadh, both were in conflict with Pashtun settlers in Doaba and surroundings in 18th century, and resented their dominance. Its Delhi and Lucknow based Muslim urdu literature, which portrays Pashtun in negative light. Though the widely circulated Pathan jokes of today, are simply edited 'Sikh jokes"..........the culprits again are those Pakistanis with roots from Awadh and Delhi. They , Ahle-i-zuban, could not digest the fact that Ahmad Faraz, some one from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, is famous poet of their mother tongue urdu, so didnt spare the dead man and invented "Ahmad Faraz: jokes......they didnt know that Ahmad faraz was actually a Hindki from Kohat city.

The only Urdu literature, which talks postively about Pashtuns, is one which stems from Bhopal. Rohilkhand, Farrukhabad etce, the regions once ruled and peopled by Pashtuns.

true! Most of the Indian of current generation have never interacted with a Pashtun/Pathan. However many muslim do claim to be Pathans and u can find a separate Pathan mohalla in most Muslim majority villages and localities and they are feared by other muslims! ( watch : Gang of Wasseypur).

Urdu Speaking muslims do have resentment against the Pathans and also central asian ones!
they treat the cental asian Muslims as inferior and uncivilized. here are some examples;
1. uzbak (urdu) = Uzbek = fool
2. Kazak/kazhia (urdu) = Kazakhstani= quarrelsome.
3. Turak (urdu) = Turk = un civilized
and many more.
Older bollywood movie always presented Pathans as Loyal friend , fierce fighter and a simple chap !

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No such heroic "guerrilla" type attacks by Sikhs against central asians occurred in history, Sikhs themselves were the biggest plunderers and marauders in this region. Their "Jathas" used to sack the villages not only Punjab but also the adjacent regions in east, present day Hariyana, Delhi, Western U.P etc. So the "Urdu belt" was having sleepless nights due to invasions and rapine of Sikhs in their region, so they contented themselves with 'Sikh Jokes"......There is no such thing as "martial race", circumstances converted peaceful Sikhs into militants. And Goru Gobind Singh's Khalsa, was inspiration from warrior code of Afghans (who you people call Pathans), who had colonies in some regions of Punjab. Their revenge seeking spirit became darker with Banda Singh Bahadur. Sikhs were not "warriors", they were fanatic militants who got addicted to blood lust.

Banda bahadur Singh was a Punjabi rajput.. The gurus were khatris.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

true! Most of the Indian of current generation have never interacted with a Pashtun/Pathan. However many muslim do claim to be Pathans and u can find a separate Pathan mohalla in most Muslim majority villages and localities and they are feared by other muslims! ( watch : Gang of Wasseypur).

Urdu Speaking muslims do have resentment against the Pathans and also central asian ones!
they treat the cental asian Muslims as inferior and uncivilized. here are some examples;
1. uzbak (urdu) = Uzbek = fool
2. Kazak/kazhia (urdu) = Kazakhstani= quarrelsome.
3. Turak (urdu) = Turk = un civilized
and many more.
Older bollywood movie always presented Pathans as Loyal friend , fierce fighter and a simple chap !

Lol even in Pak we don't have s significant Uzbek or kazakh minority apart from few settlers or terrorists... And yet you claim that indisn Muslims hate them?

Yes the Urdu speakers mock indigenous Pakistanis.. Pashtuns,Punjabi,Sindhi or Baloch etx.. And are also joked about by others .. But that is our internal matter nothing to do with some Indian teoll..

@Samandari Alaka don't fall for their trap.. They are two faced people who want nothing but us hating eachother over trivial shit.

 

[punit]

Lol even in Pak we don't have s significant Uzbek or kazakh minority apart from few settlers or terrorists... And yet you claim that indisn Muslims hate them?

Yes the Urdu speakers mock indigenous Pakistanis.. Pashtuns,Punjabi,Sindhi or Baloch etx.. And are also joked about by others .. But that is our internal matter nothing to do with some Indian teoll..

@Samandari Alaka don't fall for their trap.. They are two faced people who want nothing but us hating eachother over trivial shit.

Elite reply indeed ! keep marinating in ur own idiocy !

 

[doppelganger]

Next time when talking about my post at least have the decency to tag me. So you are claiming there are no Pathan jokes in India as there are Sikh jokes? Is it not something that both Pathans and Sikh communities have in common? Why are Sikh jokes still common in India? Is that Pakistan's fault too?

Buddy we have hardly met a proper pathan.

In the old days we would have some money lender types.

Now there is only the kabuli walla legends etc.

Please don't forget the artificial wall that has existed between us and them for 70 years ....

 

[Samandri]

Banda bahadur Singh was a Punjabi rajput.. The gurus were khatris.

It doesnt matter, they were driven by religious zeal, and even a Sikh of Dalit roots was as much of a soldier as of Rajput roots . Very similar to Mujahideen in our history. The ISIS of today has Bengali (stereotyped as meek) as well as Chechen in its ranks.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Looooooool

 

[punit]

Meanwhile you can go Fuk yourself.

same to you!

 

[untitled]

Buddy we have hardly met a proper pathan.

Some of the major names in Bollywood have Pashtoon ancestry.

Please don't forget the artificial wall that has existed between us and them for 70 years ....

The wall is as real as it gets. Sooner you realize the better

1. uzbak (urdu) = Uzbek = fool
2. Kazak/kazhia (urdu) = Kazakhstani= quarrelsome.
3. Turak (urdu) = Turk = un civilized

First time I am hearing this. I am pretty sure you have got the etymology of these words all wrong.

 

[doppelganger]

Some of the major names in Bollywood have Pashtoon ancestry.

The wall is as real as it gets. Sooner you realize the better

Well, we have people of Persian ancestry as well. Does not mean we've met Iranians now, does it (though we've met a lot more Iranians than proper Afghans)?

The wall is ...... never mind.

 

[SipahSalar]

Pathans of Pakistan want to join in.