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Indian RAW's Kulbhushan S Jadhav sentenced to death for espionage & sabotage against Pakistan

The Kargil war cannot be compared with trials of spy/terrorist in Military Court. There is no comparison at all as here, an Indian spy was captured red handed being observed for two years, with fake documents, espionage and then after confessed of terrorism as well though it is prominent who is in trouble.
I am not comparing trials of spy/terrorist with Lt Col. My point is limited to Pakistan Army denying that it's one of their Boys when caught in a tricky situation.
 
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pull your mini skirt back up, i was talking about your fellow indian posters here on pdf who until 3 days ago were refusing to admit him as their own.
Then take your private conversations elsewhere- instead of throwing it around in the middle of a discussion while using generalizing and misleading statements such as "they get caught indians deny thats there men" . And mind your language.

Wait for Nawaz to be out of power then official documents will come out in the open as to how many times we had asked. And this is India newspaper claiming we didn't ask.

Your monkey named 30 or so servicing RAW officer names as well and 400 or so arrests have been made after intelligence gathered from him. That list of 30 RAW officer names was removed by NS gov from the dossiers.

All this will come out too. World will see the evidence. Time is on our side and we decide how this game is played in reply.
Why in God's name would Nawaz Shariff do that? And do you have any sources this ^?
 
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Students of Gurukul have made an appeal to the Prime Minister and Union Minister for External Affairs to save Kulbhusan Jadav. | Photo Credit: Arunangsu Roy Chowdhury

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...rel-a-campaign-for-jadhav/article17933376.ece




His friend is exploring all options

Tulsiram Pawar, a childhood friend of retired Naval officer Kulbhushan Jadhav, said on Tuesday that he would spare no effort in keeping the demand for his friend’s release from a Pakistani prison alive.

He has started a signature campaign against the death sentence awarded to Mr. Jadhav.

Mr. Pawar, who grew up with Mr. Jadhav in Lower Parel, said he was still trying to come to terms with the news.

“I am starting a signature campaign demanding Mr. Jadhav’s release and will be getting in touch with our mutual friends who used to stay here. I am already in touch with a few, and we are planning peaceful protest marches as well,” he said.

He is exploring the option of turning to the social media.

“I do not have much knowledge about social media or the Internet, and am seeking the help of the younger generation.”

Mr. Jadhav, son of a retired Assistant Commissioner of Police, stayed in the building behind N.M. Joshi Marg police station, which now houses Unit III of the Mumbai Police Crime Branch.

The building earlier had quarters for police officers. Mr. Pawar, who stays in the opposite building, said he had been friends with Mr. Jadhav for as long as he could remember, and that his earliest memories with him are of roaming in the narrow lanes behind Bawla Masjid and playing together for hours.

Sources said Mr. Jadhav’s family left the city late on Monday night, and are believed to be in Pune.
 
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Then take your private conversations elsewhere- instead of throwing it around in the middle of a discussion while using generalizing and misleading statements such as "they get caught indians deny thats there men" . And mind your language.

haha seems like I've hit a nerve. love it

keep it moving you wasteman
 
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http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...if-amid-indo-pak-tensions/article17954145.ece

Islamabad April 12, 2017 18:28 IST
Updated: April 12, 2017 18:46 IST

Gen. Bajwa also apprised the Prime Minister of the progress made ine ongoing operation against terror.

Pakistan army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa on Wednesday met Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, two days after a military tribunal sentenced Indian national Kulbushan Jadav to death on charges of spying, evoking a sharp reaction from India, which warned Islamabad to consider the consequences on ties if he is hanged.

Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Bajwa and Mr. Sharif discussed matters pertaining to professional preparedness of the army, the current security and border situation at the meeting, Radio Pakistan reported.

Gen. Bajwa also apprised the Prime Minister of the progress made in ongoing operation ''Radd-ul-Fasaad'' against terrorism.

It was the first direct interaction between the army chief and the Prime Minister.

The meeting comes two days after the Pakistan’s army chief approved the execution of Jadhav after a military court sentenced him to death for “espionage and sabotage activities”, evoking a sharp reaction from India which warned Islamabad to consider the consequences on bilateral ties if he is hanged.
 
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Why did the UN not believe this very same evidence when Pakistan tried to prove to the world that India was supporting Baloch terror, Why did the whole diplomatic attack die a swift death? The evidence is inconclusive. This same evidence being used in the military court to sentence Kulbhushan to death.

I don't see the same happened what you stated otherwise, what make you think that Pakistan can act irresponsibly.... Never. Kulbashan is the subject here.

I am not comparing trials of spy/terrorist with Lt Col. My point is limited to Pakistan Army denying that it's one of their Boys when caught in a tricky situation.

They were not spying nor were involved in terrorism/espionage. A total different situation based upon different tactics for different results. If Kulbashan was a prisoner of war or caught like Chohan, situation would have been different and comparable. However, after announcing his sentence, I am not in knowledge for any diplomatic talks or contacts that situation may change. Even if such happens, for the sake of arguments here, it wouldn't be denying or he being innocent but diplomacy of high level to be kept in view.
 
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/606020/india-must-ask-copy-judgement.html

India must seek from Pakistan a copy of the judgement awarding death sentence to former navy officer Kulbhushan Jadhav so the grounds on which he has been convicted is known, noted lawyer Ram Jethmalani has said.

"We want to know whether the sentence is right, and right as in, whether the conviction is right, then the question comes of what kind of punishment for that. "Suppose he has been convicted on stupid evidence, then that makes a much stronger case for India," he told PTI.

The eminent criminal lawyer was speaking on the sidelines of a conference on 'Improving Indo-Pak Relations' at the India International Centre here which was also attended by Pakistan High Commissioner Abdul Basit, its former foreign minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri and senior Congress leader Mani Shankar Aiyar.

At the end of the conference last night, commotion prevailed briefly at the venue, as several members of the media mobbed Basit and Kasuri with a volley of questions, against the backdrop of widespread outrage in India over the death penalty to 46-year-old former officer on charges of alleged "espionage and sabotage" activities.

"Reactions are flying thick and fast from every side, and media is also reacting to it strongly. But, one must know on what evidence he has been convicted, first of all.

"I should read what is the charge and what is the evidence on which they (Pakistan) have acted, and why this death sentence. Death sentence is justified only in those cases in which you cannot imagine a more serious offence, that is the law, as far as I can see," Jethmalani said.

The 93-year-old lawyer, who was born in Sindh province (now in Pakistan) of undivided India also urged media to exercise restraint while asserting both the countries must continue to engage peacefully to resolve outstanding issues.

"Today people are giving opinions on the case (Jadhav's) without reading the judgement. I have not read it, and I do not want to aggravate the situation. But, whole press seeking opinions, have they read the judgement, nobody.

"We have made our stand, but we want to see the judgement. So, we (India) must ask from Pakistan the certified copy of the judgement.. Before we burn bridges, we need to think properly," he said.

Asked if Pakistan would be willing to share the copy of the order, he said, "Have we asked for it, that it has not been given." Former chief of the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) A S Dulat described the situation as "crazy".

"The whole episode surrounding Jadhav's case is so crazy. I wonder if Pakistan would be willing to share anything," he said on the sidelines of the event. Dulat ran into Kasuri while he was entering the conference hall and left soon thereafter, after exchanging pleasantries.

During the event, some reporters had posed questions to Kasuri and Basit on the raging issue of death sentence awarded to Jadhav by a Pakistani military court. But both of them declined to answer.

Surrounded by a battery of reporters and camerapersons, Kasuri only said, "Even many civilians in Pakistan have been tried by military courts." During his talk at the conference, Pakistan's foreign minister said, both sides must not allow things to drift away and that it is in Islamabad's interest to have good relations with India.

At the same time, he admitted that things between the two neighbours are not looking good.
"Relationship is not normal right now. Rhetoric not particularly good on either side of the border. I must admit I was initially hesitant, but it is these times that we must persist and talk about peace," he said.

India has warned Pakistan of the "consequences" Jadhav's hanging could have on their ties and vowed to go "out of the way" to save him amid pervasive outrage in the country.

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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/605998/army-veterans-protest-jadhavs-death.html

New Delhi, Apr 12, 2017, Press Trust of India
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The protesters were led by Delhi Assembly legislator Col (retd) Devinder Sehrawat. They also handed over a memorandum to the authorities at the Pakistan High Commission in Chanakyapuri.


A group of army veterans today staged a protest near the Pakistan High Commission against the death sentence awarded to former Indian Navy officer Kulbhushan Jadhav.

The protesters were led by Delhi Assembly legislator Col (retd) Devinder Sehrawat. They also handed over a memorandum to the authorities at the Pakistan High Commission in Chanakyapuri.

"We urged the Pakistan High Commissioner to communicate the outrage over the unacceptable treatment meted out to Jadhav," Sehrawat said.

"Pakistan is creating problems for itself and will have to payback if it continued with such actions. We request the country to take the case of Jadhav seriously and think over continuing any relationship with Pakistan," he said.


Nearly two dozen ex-servicemen, including Col (retd) Ravi Tokas and Col (retd) KPS Rana, took part in the protest.

India has warned Pakistan to consider the "consequences" on bilateral ties if Jadhav is hanged in the alleged espionage case and vowed to go "out of the way" to save him amid an outrage throughout the country.

Jadhav was "arrested" on March 3 last year by Pakistani security forces in the restive Balochistan province after he reportedly entered from Iran. Pakistan has alleged that Jadhav was "a serving officer" in the Indian Navy and deputed to the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW).

The Pakistan Army had released a "confessional video" of Jadhav after his arrest.
India has acknowledged that Jadhav served with the navy but denied he has any connection with the government.
 
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What consequences on bilateral ties? Is India for real? What ties do we have in the first place? Trade non existing, investment none, friendly gestures again no. So what exactly is India threatening against?
Only ties India have with Pakistan is free land / air transit, which should be blocked from immediate effect.
While after experiencing daylight drone strike from Pakistan army, Indians can't even resort to cross border firing.
My guess, they would resort to alternate ways. example: sectarian blackmail, kidnappings, target killings, staging a strong yet anti army politician in coming elections.
 
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I don't see the same happened what you stated otherwise, what make you think that Pakistan can act irresponsibly.... Never. Kulbashan is the subject here.
I'm talking about Kulbhushan. His case, and the all the talked about evidence was taken to the UN and the EU too(I think) as proof against India for supporting Baloch Terror. This evidence was not entertained anywhere. Now members claim that Nawaz had omitted major parts of the report handed to the UN- which caused this diplomatic attack to fail. How is this possible? How can this very same evidence be conclusive enough to sentence him to death then? Something is fishy.

What consequences on bilateral ties? Is India for real? What ties do we have in the first place? Trade non existing, investment none, friendly gestures again no. So what exactly is India threatening against?
No much on the line there, true

haha seems like I've hit a nerve. love it

keep it moving you wasteman
OK troll
 
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A group of army veterans today staged a protest near the Pakistan High Commission against the death sentence awarded to former Indian Navy officer Kulbhushan Jadhav
Are they not the same officers, who ruthlessly killed prisoners of 1971 war? which included families of army officers and civil govt. servants?
My recommendation, Pakistan should take a good look at those criminals and take them in custody and run a debriefing in regard to 1971 prisoners of war.
 
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I'm talking about Kulbhushan. His case, and the all the talked about evidence was taken to the UN and the EU too(I think) as proof against India for supporting Baloch Terror. This evidence was not entertained anywhere. Now members claim that Nawaz had omitted major parts of the report handed to the UN- which caused this diplomatic attack to fail. How is this possible? How can this very same evidence be conclusive enough to sentence him to death then? Something is fishy.

Evidence to UN or to say EU w.r.t. India's involvement in Baluchistan wasn't taken to sentence him to death but another addition to the matter. Kulbashan is found guilty of the same as a spy/terrorist after Military Court Trial, his confession and cooperation with Agency. He is a professional and knows the outcome as well as was aware that there is no other option but to tell the whole truth and cooperate being professional. I don't see any International Forum acknowledged his innocence as per India stance. Not even Iran w.r.t. India's claim of abduction but cooperated accordingly as Iran was informed officially by GoP.
 
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Whether there were coups or we hanged a pm, how does it concerns an Indian? At least we don't make terrorists and mass murders as head of state. As for laughing stock, it would be better if you stop watching that yellow media of yours according to whom India is the next US whereas Pakistan another NK, alone and isolated.
The only thing the world laughs at is when you try to isolate a country like Pakistan only to make a fool out of yourself. Not even your close abides buy this Indian BS case in point Russia.

Of course it concerns India when a judicial system which hangs a PM and certifies coups through another kangaroo court convicts an Indian citizen. And of course you make terrorists and mass murderers heads of state - just ask the erstwhile East Pakistanis or the Balochis. India is not the next US but Pakistan is pretty much spoken of in the same breath as North Korea.

Here is a non-Indian source for you to mull over -
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel...rists-pakistan-somalia-honduras-a7321326.html


India doesn't need to isolate Pakistan - Pakistan is doing a fine job itself - India might just give it a push toward the finish line.

And my lament is against the state, not its people - many of whom I have personally interacted with and they are fine people. I consider it my civic duty to speak out against the crazy right wing Hindu vigilantes who are running amok these days with their stupid cow and love jihad politics. But Pakistanis don't seem to realize that their establishment has zero credibility pretty much everywhere. Who recorded Musharraf conversation during Kargil and routed it to India through the US - your great ally China. Think about that.

Are they not the same officers, who ruthlessly killed prisoners of 1971 war? which included families of army officers and civil govt. servants?
My recommendation, Pakistan should take a good look at those criminals and take them in custody and run a debriefing in regard to 1971 prisoners of war.
I don't know if you are aware but these officers saved the Pakistanis from the wrath of Bangladeshis - please look it up.
 
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Uzair Baloch was also in contact with Jadhav lol. The shit is getting interesting.
 
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