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[kadamba-warrior]

Dread deepens in patna as violence rises in Bihar | Sunday Guardian

 

[LaBong]

There is an old Bengali storybook written in 70's or 80's, "Brajadar galpa samagra" or "Brajadar Gulgalpa" that I read when I was a kid, Brajada (Brajaraj Karfarma) was a character like Ghanada telling fake stories (gulgalpa) of his achievements to his fans & followers, Sunil, Sunit, etc. in some office. Brajada once told Sunit bitterly, "Bujhli Nite, Bangalir brain ar Kolkatar drain, dutoi atit, ekhon shudhu namei ache"! In the last page of the last story, Brajada said that he went for hunting (and training Jim Corbett) and there a very clever tiger ate him! Everybody protested; but you are still alive!! Brajada sighed in frustration, reminded them about the glorious past of the Bengalis, and concluded that Bengalis have already died and got eaten....'ei bacha ke ki ar bacha bole', he said!

So @LaBong , Brajada told us long back that Bengalis are dead, and if you compare our current work in literature, cinema, music, science, education and politics with that of the Bengali renaissance period, and up to our grandfathers' generation, then Brajada was not very wrong...someone like Shirshendu Mukhopadhyay is among the last of the remaining legends! Unfortunately, a resurrection of the lost glory is not in sight, I am not sure if this decay is because Bengalis have chosen to live in their glorious past, or a massive brain drain in Bengal, or the rampant politicization of every single institution of importance that are now producing lackeys of one political party or the other...but lackeys don't make legends. The 'Bengali pride' you are talking about is like the great Roman empire, all in the past! Considering the current situation in Bengal, I can't feel pride in our glorious past without being ashamed of our hopeless present. Maybe we can ask @scorpionx and @MilSpec about how they feel.

Agreed with most of the things you said, however there's one thing called disdain about one's present situation or outright hate towards a community of people because they don't follow your ideology. Folks like rajneet or other keralite don't care about all these things you said, they simply hate Bengalis because Bengalis don't vote for BJP. They are racist arseholes, it's as simple as that.

And which wing the opposition political parties belong to? Which political party in India doesn't play communal cards? I would rather choose a Modi, even at the cost of having to bear with the nuisance of certain yogis and sadhwis, if the alternative option is a Mamata, or a Lalu, Mulayam, Mayavati, or the Gandhi-duo. I won't make a void moral stand like "All political parties are bad" when choosing one is an inevitability.

All political parties play communal card, however when BJP plays it, it's more dangerous than Congress and others. Majority communalism is always more dangerous than minority communalism since the later can be checked.

Agreed there's no good alternative to Modi except probably Nitish, however that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye and deaf ear towards every idiotic thing BJP does, and there is no dearth of idiotic things that BJP does.

Btw, I remember how you and @Joe Shearer were making long arguments rejecting any political agenda behind the award-wapsi episode during the Bihar election, I went silent at one point thinking that I would rather dig up these threads a couple of weeks after the Bihar election; knowing that award-wapsi will stop right after the Bihar election, but later I decided to let it go. But @LaBong , let me tell you now why I was calling it a political campaign...the award-wapsi with massive media coverage was started by Nayantara Sahgal just FIVE DAYS before the 1st phase of the Bihar election, and the last of the high-profile award-wapsi with equally massive media coverage was concluded by Arundhuti Roy just A DAY BEFORE the last phase of the Bihar election, there were a few who might have returned their awards due to peer pressure or herd mentality during the period or maybe a a few days after the election also, but that was the gross timeline, and agenda. Now, I would have to work very hard NOT to see a obvious political agenda behind the whole episode, I chose not to work so hard and rather preferred to see what was the simple truth!

Can you also give me the rationale behind sudden beef politics just before election and why BJP motormouths stopped shooting from their hips after election. I'd not go so far and claim that dadri lynching was planned although it kinda looks like it, but I also would have to work rather hard not to see the politics agenda of trying to consolidate hindu votes using dadri. At least we didn't see a riot like Muzaffarnagar being manufactured.

What exactly Bengalis are proud off nowadays?.

Not being zealots who go around lynching people because of their food habit? Or not burning Dalit kids alive? There are so many things, I should make a list actually. While I make some crude bombs, don't waste your time and murder someone because he/she supposedly hurt your honor, if any still have any left that is.

 

[Tridibans]

There is an old Bengali storybook written in 70's or 80's, "Brajadar galpa samagra" or "Brajadar Gulgalpa" that I read when I was a kid, Brajada (Brajaraj Karfarma) was a character like Ghanada telling fake stories (gulgalpa) of his achievements to his fans & followers, Sunil, Sunit, etc. in some office. Brajada once told Sunit bitterly, "Bujhli Nite, Bangalir brain ar Kolkatar drain, dutoi atit, ekhon shudhu namei ache"! In the last page of the last story, Brajada said that he went for hunting (and training Jim Corbett) and there a very clever tiger ate him! Everybody protested; but you are still alive!! Brajada sighed in frustration, reminded them about the glorious past of the Bengalis, and concluded that Bengalis have already died and got eaten....'ei bacha ke ki ar bacha bole', he said!

So @LaBong , Brajada told us long back that Bengalis are dead, and if you compare our current work in literature, cinema, music, science, education and politics with that of the Bengali renaissance period, and up to our grandfathers' generation, then Brajada was not very wrong...someone like Shirshendu Mukhopadhyay is among the last of the remaining legends! Unfortunately, a resurrection of the lost glory is not in sight, I am not sure if this decay is because Bengalis have chosen to live in their glorious past, or a massive brain drain in Bengal, or the rampant politicization of every single institution of importance that are now producing lackeys of one political party or the other...but lackeys don't make legends. The 'Bengali pride' you are talking about is like the great Roman empire, all in the past! Considering the current situation in Bengal, I can't feel pride in our glorious past without being ashamed of our hopeless present. Maybe we can ask @scorpionx and @MilSpec about how they feel.

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Coming to the petty politics, we Bengalis have made someone like Jyoti Basu our CM for five consecutive terms, someone who diligently destroyed everything of value in Bengal during his tenure, be it industries, scholarly institutions, or the democratic system itself. Then we got a Buddhadeb Bhattacharya, who, rather surprisingly, showed some promise to bring about some change. But that didn't suit us...and we kicked him out and rewarded a half-brained politician in opposition for her great work in driving out a high profile project like Tata small car plant (thereby destroying our chances of becoming another auto hub like Tamilnadu, Gurgaon or Pune), and eliminating the prospects of building world's 2nd largest petrochemical hub even in an almost no man's land like Nayachar.

Jyoti Basu once broke into the BBD Bagh office of HSBC Bank and threw away the first consignment of computers on the road, probably in 1981-82, a later course correction put us somewhere in the bottom of the IT hubs in India, Mamata understood the mistake and a further course correction has blocked all the new entrants in the Sector-V & New Town IT hub including the high profile companies like Infosys and Wipro (2nd campus). The IT hub of Kolkata is dying, along with it the real estate sector of Rajarhat is also dying, investments are already dead, and there is barely any new development in the once-fast-growing Rajarhat-New Town in last 4 years. Pride? No. I feel disgusted.

And which wing the opposition political parties belong to? Which political party in India doesn't play communal cards? I would rather choose a Modi, even at the cost of having to bear with the nuisance of certain yogis and sadhwis, if the alternative option is a Mamata, or a Lalu, Mulayam, Mayavati, or the Gandhi-duo. I won't make a void moral stand like "All political parties are bad" when choosing one is an inevitability.

You know, one of my professors was very active in fb during the Bihar election and I was also participating in his posts, and after the election result he posted about the "Bihari pride" and declared that now he feels very proud as a Bihari for the 'achievement' of the Biharis for routing the BJP in the election. I had to point out to him that Biharis have only voted in their traditional caste lines and the result was just political arithmetic (check the vote percentages of the last few polls in Bihar), and Lalu is now the biggest political force in Bihar. I wanted to tell him that to hell with such Bihari pride that makes someone like Lalu the single largest party and makes a learned IIM professor proud about it, but I didn't...he was my professor after all.

Btw, I remember how you and @Joe Shearer were making long arguments rejecting any political agenda behind the award-wapsi episode during the Bihar election, I went silent at one point thinking that I would rather dig up these threads a couple of weeks after the Bihar election; knowing that award-wapsi will stop right after the Bihar election, but later I decided to let it go. But @LaBong , let me tell you now why I was calling it a political campaign...the award-wapsi with massive media coverage was started by Nayantara Sahgal just FIVE DAYS before the 1st phase of the Bihar election, and the last of the high-profile award-wapsi with equally massive media coverage was concluded by Arundhuti Roy just A DAY BEFORE the last phase of the Bihar election, there were a few who might have returned their awards due to peer pressure or herd mentality during the period or maybe a a few days after the election also, but that was the gross timeline, and agenda. Now, I would have to work very hard NOT to see a obvious political agenda behind the whole episode, I chose not to work so hard and rather preferred to see what was the simple truth!

Daarun post dada.

I will just add one thing. Me along with many of my Bengali friends.... who have basically migrated out of Bengal.... is it so that we lost our Bengali heritage? Or religion? No.... Obviously not.... But the thing is we can appreciate the fact or rather admit it that Bengal today is not what it was say 60 years ago... India's golden goose.

Decades of communism has driven out most industries away. Which has made us or many educated folks to go to greener pastures. And now the current Momata di is doing basically what left front did.... with a twist of Bangladeshi appeasement. Mind you..... Bengalis in their haste to downplay BJP are very eager to support TMC. But it is dangerous in the long run. See how recently many Trinamool members were arrested as ISI agents and being anti-nationals.


We already lost 75 % of our Shonar Bangla. And no..... Bangladeshis don't want to stay with us 'Hindus' or 'Infidels'.

If it was so then partition or creation of East Pakistan wouldn't have happened in the first place.

@SarthakGanguly @ranjeet @Mike_Brando

 

[Rangila]

@CorporateAffairs Crooks of Indian Cricket.

And one of these 3 crooks is FM of India as chosen by Modi.
India has a great future.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

@CorporateAffairs Crooks of Indian Cricket.

And one of these 3 crooks is FM of India as chosen by Modi.
India has a great future.

He has no choice, but to carry along this crook. That is called POLITICS!

 

[noksss]

The Modi government has so far dismissed, removed or compulsorily retired 13 bureaucrats and imposed pension cut on 45 others for unsatisfactory performance and delivery in public service, the government informed Rajya Sabha on Wednesday.

Minister of state for personnel Jitendra Singh, in reply to a question from some Rajya Sabha MPs, said during the last one-and-a-half years (since the Modi government assumed power in May 2014), "13 Central Civil Service/All India Service officers have been dismissed/removed/compulsorily retired from government service and penalty
of pension cut... imposed on 45 Central Civil Service/All India Service officers".
Singh said the government has taken several steps to remove deadwood and inefficient officials in the Central Civil Services/All India Services. "With a view to making bureaucracy performance-oriented and accountable, the government has recently issued instructions to all ministries/departments to carry out periodical review under FR 56(j) of Rule 48 of CCS (Pension Rules, 1972) and under Rule 16(3) of All India Services (Death-cum-Retirement Benefits) Rules," he said.

As per these instructions, the performance of government servants should be reviewed six months before he/she attains the age of 50/55 years or on completion of 30 years of qualifying service, as the case may be, to determine if he/she should be retained in service or retired from service in public interest.


The minister said the department of personnel and training (DoPT), to ensure timely disposal of disciplinary cases and maintain a mechanism of probity among government servants, had issued an office memorandum eliciting information pertaining to disciplinary cases in a standardized format, for its monitoring.

Singh further informed that the government recently issued instructions under Rule 7(2) of the AIS (Leave) Rules 1955 to process deemed resignation of bureaucrats who remain unauthorisedly absent after expiry of leave/study leave/foreign assignment etc. "The government also examines cases against officers and imposes penalty of cut in pension wherever necessary, in consultation with the UPSC," he said.

As part of its endeavour to make bureaucracy performance-oriented and accountable, Singh said DoPT was reviewing disciplinary cases for IAS, under secretary and above level officers of Central Secretariat Service and Group A officers of CBI, on a monthly basis. Even the respective cadre controlling authorities of central services/cadres have been directed to monitor disciplinary cases against officers of those services periodically, he added.

Singh said a committee headed by secretary, DoPT, monitors on quarterly basis status of all delayed cases of sanction for prosecution and takes the steps needed to resolve such cases expeditiously. Besides, the government has instructed all ministries/departments for time-bound submission of proposals to the cadre controlling authority for initiating disciplinary proceedings against IAS officers.

Modi govt dismissed 13 officers, penalized 45 for inefficiency - Times of India

 

[CorporateAffairs]

The Modi government has so far dismissed, removed or compulsorily retired 13 bureaucrats and imposed pension cut on 45 others for unsatisfactory performance and delivery in public service, the government informed Rajya Sabha on Wednesday.

Perhaps this is the change India was looking for. Welcome change from you loot India and we loot India by Congress.

 

[Rangila]

He has no choice, but to carry along this crook. That is called POLITICS!

On the same principle and the extension of your logic on Indian politics;

Why blame UPA/Sonia then?

Do not change the yardstick please.

 

[Marxist]

BJP force in Kerala, says Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala

NEW DELHI: The significant inroads BJP has been making in Kerala, a politically bipolar state so far, has prompted a senior Congress leader from the state to seek "serious study and surgery" to revive the ruling United Democratic Front and check BJP's rise.

In a confidential letter to the Congress high command, Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala said "BJP has become a force" after the recent local body elections, in which CPI(M)-led Left Democratic Front won most local bodies, a
and that the Hindu community was moving towards the saffron party.

"Unfortunately, the BJP has increased its presence in a big way. In Trivandrum Corporation, BJP has come second to Left. Most of the municipalities and gram panchayats opened account. BJP has become a force after this local body elections," said Chennithala's letter said.

"Nair community, one of the strong supporting communities of the Congress, is now shifting to the BJP and the LDF. Ezhava community is already having an alliance with the BJP. It helped them gain," he said in the letter sent last month.
Read more at:
BJP force in Kerala, says Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala - The Economic Times

@nair @Aminroop @Star Wars @Nair saab @ranjeet

and @mooppan specially for you ,Even kerala home minister is accepting it ,but you live in denial

 

[ranjeet]

Agreed with most of the things you said, however there's one thing called disdain about one's present situation or outright hate towards a community of people because they don't follow your ideology. Folks like rajneet or other keralite don't care about all these things you said, they simply hate Bengalis because Bengalis don't vote for BJP. They are racist arseholes, it's as simple as that.




All political parties play communal card, however when BJP plays it, it's more dangerous than Congress and others. Majority communalism is always more dangerous than minority communalism since the later can be checked.

Agreed there's no good alternative to Modi except probably Nitish, however that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye and deaf ear towards every idiotic thing BJP does, and there is no dearth of idiotic things that BJP does.



Can you also give me the rationale behind sudden beef politics just before election and why BJP motormouths stopped shooting from their hips after election. I'd not go so far and claim that dadri lynching was planned although it kinda looks like it, but I also would have to work rather hard not to see the politics agenda of trying to consolidate hindu votes using dadri. At least we didn't see a riot like Muzaffarnagar being manufactured.



Not being zealots who go around lynching people because of their food habit? Or not burning Dalit kids alive? There are so many things, I should make a list actually. While I make some crude bombs, don't waste your time and murder someone because he/she supposedly hurt your honor, if any still have any left that is.

Few posts here and there showing the mirror and the Bhadra Dhimmi here starts name calling.


India fought it's first war of independence over cartilages laced with animal fat, but I guess being a Dhimmi you must have discounted that fact because it also involved fat from PIGs. As far as going around lynching people is concerned your people went about killing folks for having a "DIFFERENT POLITICAL VIEW", here straight from the horse's mouth.

"WE shall now try to assess at the macro level the vastness and magnitude of this political slaughter. In 1997, Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, in a reply to an Assembly question, stated that between 1977 (when they came to power) and 1996, 28,000 political murders were committed. This bland statement does not convey the enormity of the crime committed by the CPI-M. It meant on an average 125.7 murders were effected in a month. It meant that the daily rate of murder was four. That is to say that one political murder took place every six hours for the entire period of 19 years between 1977 and 1996. Could any member of the Opposition feel safe in such a “haven of peace”?"

Census of Political Murders in West Bengal during CPI-M Rule—1977-2009 - Mainstream Weekly


Friday is almost here I suggested you bend your head towards Bangladeshi Jamatis and fart some more on rest of India or else your new masters will be pissed off. Smash few Dugra Idols while you are at it.

 

[nair]

and @mooppan specially for you ,Even kerala home minister is accepting it ,but you live in denial

This is one part of the coin....... There is another part of this letter which is not mentioned here It says " The reason for poor performance of INC in local body election is CM's Bad image and Corruption (read corruption by CM's office)..... The idea behind this letter is simple, he want to raise, raise above Ooman chandy and become CM candidate for 2016 election........ I am sure you have heard of yesterday's cold war between speaker and ramesh in assembly......

 

[CorporateAffairs]

Bengal is in a dangerous situation. If they need to survive they need to elect BJP or atleast give them a chance.
But what is disturbing is, does BJP has anyone in that state? Any names? I cant even quickly take a Bengali BJP leader.
That is the state of BJP in Bengal and you cannot ask people to support you with showing them their leader.

KL is a different situation, BJP has some strong leaders in that state. Though few of them have been murdered by Communist and Congress party goons, they still have a few leaders.

 

[magudi]

BJP force in Kerala, says Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala

NEW DELHI: The significant inroads BJP has been making in Kerala, a politically bipolar state so far, has prompted a senior Congress leader from the state to seek "serious study and surgery" to revive the ruling United Democratic Front and check BJP's rise.

In a confidential letter to the Congress high command, Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala said "BJP has become a force" after the recent local body elections, in which CPI(M)-led Left Democratic Front won most local bodies, a
and that the Hindu community was moving towards the saffron party.

"Unfortunately, the BJP has increased its presence in a big way. In Trivandrum Corporation, BJP has come second to Left. Most of the municipalities and gram panchayats opened account. BJP has become a force after this local body elections," said Chennithala's letter said.

"Nair community, one of the strong supporting communities of the Congress, is now shifting to the BJP and the LDF. Ezhava community is already having an alliance with the BJP. It helped them gain," he said in the letter sent last month.
Read more at:
BJP force in Kerala, says Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala - The Economic Times

@nair @Aminroop @Star Wars @Nair saab @ranjeet

and @mooppan specially for you ,Even kerala home minister is accepting it ,but you live in denial

So upper castes are in dock, what about lower-cases, does this vellapily guy have strong hold over them?

BJP force in Kerala, says Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala

NEW DELHI: The significant inroads BJP has been making in Kerala, a politically bipolar state so far, has prompted a senior Congress leader from the state to seek "serious study and surgery" to revive the ruling United Democratic Front and check BJP's rise.

In a confidential letter to the Congress high command, Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala said "BJP has become a force" after the recent local body elections, in which CPI(M)-led Left Democratic Front won most local bodies, a
and that the Hindu community was moving towards the saffron party.

"Unfortunately, the BJP has increased its presence in a big way. In Trivandrum Corporation, BJP has come second to Left. Most of the municipalities and gram panchayats opened account. BJP has become a force after this local body elections," said Chennithala's letter said.

"Nair community, one of the strong supporting communities of the Congress, is now shifting to the BJP and the LDF. Ezhava community is already having an alliance with the BJP. It helped them gain," he said in the letter sent last month.
Read more at:
BJP force in Kerala, says Kerala home minister Ramesh Chennithala - The Economic Times

@nair @Aminroop @Star Wars @Nair saab @ranjeet

and @mooppan specially for you ,Even kerala home minister is accepting it ,but you live in denial

So upper castes are in dock, what about lower-cases, does this vellapily guy have strong hold over them?

Bengal is in a dangerous situation. If they need to survive they need to elect BJP or atleast give them a chance.
But what is disturbing is, does BJP has anyone in that state? Any names? I cant even quickly take a Bengali BJP leader.
That is the state of BJP in Bengal and you cannot ask people to support you with showing them their leader.

KL is a different situation, BJP has some strong leaders in that state. Though few of them have been murdered by Communist and Congress party goons, they still have a few leaders.

Roopa ganguly

 

[Marxist]

This is one part of the coin....... There is another part of this letter which is not mentioned here It says " The reason for poor performance of INC in local body election is CM's Bad image and Corruption (read corruption by CM's office)..... The idea behind this letter is simple, he want to raise, raise above Ooman chandy and become CM candidate for 2016 election........ I am sure you have heard of yesterday's cold war between speaker and ramesh in assembly......

I read the complete article ,but unfortunately it is difficult to copy-paste entire article here ....So posted the relevant part ...His message to High Command is to Make him CM to prevent Nair votes flowing to BJP ....

 

[ranjeet]

Bengal is in a dangerous situation. If they need to survive they need to elect BJP or atleast give them a chance.
But what is disturbing is, does BJP has anyone in that state? Any names? I cant even quickly take a Bengali BJP leader.
That is the state of BJP in Bengal and you cannot ask people to support you with showing them their leader.

KL is a different situation, BJP has some strong leaders in that state. Though few of them have been murdered by Communist and Congress party goons, they still have a few leaders.

BJP has no chance of winning Bengal, they will come distant 3rd or 4th in the vote share. lakhs of Ayesha begums will catch a train from all over India to vote for SECULARISM.