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Border Movie nahi dekha ka bhai ?

nahi. but i saw LOC Kargil and it sucked

 

[NKVD]

RSS nationalists???

fk they were involved not only in gujarat massacre but also in sikh massacre . Its a shame that you support those terrorits

ohhh your problem is with them well these terrorist dont may things for the well being of society Even Prime minister nehru Praise them and asked them to join republic day prade
The RSS has advocated the training of Dalits and other backward classes as temple high priests (a position traditionally reserved for Caste Brahmins and denied to lower castes). They argue that the social divisiveness of the Caste system is responsible for the lack of adherence to Hindu values and traditions and reaching out to the lower castes in this manner will be a remedy to the problem.[81] The RSS has also condemned 'upper' caste Hindus for preventing Dalits from worshipping at temples, saying that "even God will desert the temple in which Dalits cannot enter"[82]

Christophe Jaffrelot finds that "there is insufficient data available to carry out a statistical analysis of social origins of the early RSS leaders" but goes on to conclude, based on some known profiles that most of the RSS founders and its leading organisers, with exceptions were Maharashtrian Brahmins from middle or lower class[83] and argues that the pervasiveness of the Brahminical ethic in the organisation was probably the main reason why it failed to attract support from the low castes. He argues that the "RSS resorted to instrumentalist techniques of ethno-religious mobilisation – in which its Brahminism was diluted – to overcome this handicap."[84] However Anderson and Damle 1987, find that members of all castes have been welcomed into the organisation and are treated as equals.[1]

During M. K. Gandhi's visit to RSS Camp accompanied by Mahadev Desai and Mirabehn at Wardha in 1934, he was surprised by the discipline and the absence of untouchability in RSS and commented "When I visited the RSS Camp, I was very much surprised by your discipline and absence of untouchablity." He personally inquired to Swayamsevaks and found that they were living and eating together in the camp without bothering to know their castes.[85]

Dr Bhimrao Ambedkar while visiting the RSS camp at Pune in 1939 observed that Swayamsevaks were moving in absolute equality and brotherhood without even caring to know the cast of others.[86] In his address to the Swayamsevaks, he said that " This is the first time that I am visiting the camp of Sangh volunteers. I am happy to find absolute equality between Savarniyas (Upper cast) and Harijans (Lower cast) without any one being aware of such difference existing." When he asked Hedgewar whether there were any untouchables in the camp, he replied that there are neither "touchables" nor "untouchables" but only Hindus.[87]

It is noted that RSS provides education to people of rural India and socially backward classes living under the poverty.[88]

Relief and rehabilitation
The RSS was instrumental in relief efforts after the 1971 Orissa Cyclone and the 1977 Andhra Pradesh Cyclone.[89]

The RSS assisted in relief efforts during the 2001 Gujarat earthquake, and helped rebuild villages.[89][90] Approximately 35,000 RSS members in uniform were engaged in the relief efforts,[91] and many of their critics acknowledged their role.[92]

An RSS-affiliated NGO, Seva Bharati, conducted relief operations in the aftermath of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake. Activities included building shelters for the victims, providing food, clothes and medical necessities.[93] The RSS assisted relief efforts during the 2004 Sumatra-Andaman earthquake and the subsequent tsunami.[94]

Seva Bharati also adopted 57 children (38 Muslims and 19 Hindus) from militancy affected areas of Jammu and Kashmir to provide them education at least up to Higher Secondary level.[95][96] They have also taken care of victims of the Kargil War of 1999.[97]

In 2006, RSS participated in relief efforts to provide basic necessities such as food, milk and potable water to the people of Surat, Gujarat who were affected by massive floods in the region. The RSS volunteers carried out relief and rehabilitation work after the floods ravaged North Karnataka and some districts of the state ofAndhra Pradesh.[99]

In 2013, following the Uttarakhand floods, RSS volunteers were involved in flood-relief works through its offices set up at various affected areas.
Did any off your Mullas has done any thing for Indian society Nothing Shut up then

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

nahi. but i saw LOC Kargil and it sucked

Now thats your fault

Border was a Multi starer super duper hit

 

[Indian-Lion]

Gujarat riots was started by muslims, and about 84 those bast@r* mot** f ... congressi was responsible for that.

Rss, Bjp Role During 1984 Nov. Sikh Genocide : Rock Solid Proof - WHAT'S HAPPENING? - The Voice of Sikhs

 

[kbd-raaf]

https://twitter.com/search?q=State’...n around 8.5%. #FactCheck&src=typd&f=realtime

Congi eNREGA on display.

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

Rss, Bjp Role During 1984 Nov. Sikh Genocide : Rock Solid Proof - WHAT'S HAPPENING? - The Voice of Sikhs

Seriously ?

Sikhsangat.com ? with that edited newspaper " Hindustan Times " ?

Get well soon, My pherend

 

[NKVD]

Rss, Bjp Role During 1984 Nov. Sikh Genocide : Rock Solid Proof - WHAT'S HAPPENING? - The Voice of Sikhs

acha we can produce 10 claims against it there many commaities were formed by Congress them self Never found evidence against Rss but there own part workers Sajjan kumar tytler

 

[Indian-Lion]

50 lakh people dont have toilet in gujarat

shining gujarat

 

[NKVD]

Rss, Bjp Role During 1984 Nov. Sikh Genocide : Rock Solid Proof - WHAT'S HAPPENING? - The Voice of Sikhs

After the assassination of Indira Gandhi on 31 October 1984, by two of her Sikh bodyguards, anti-Sikh riots erupted on 1 November 1984, and continued in some areas for days, killing more than 3,000 Sikhs.[4] Sultanpuri, Mangolpuri, Trilokpuri, and other Trans-Yamuna areas of Delhi were the worst affected. Mobs carried iron rods, knives, clubs, and combustible material, including kerosene and Petrol. The mobs swarmed into Sikh neighbourhoods, arbitrarily killing any Sikh men or women they could find. Their shops and houses were ransacked and burned. In other incidents, armed mobs stopped buses and trains, in and around Delhi, pulling out Sikh passengers to be lynched or doused withkerosene and burnt alive. Others were dragged out from their homes and hacked to death with bladed weapons.

Such wide-scale violence cannot take place without police help. Delhi Police, whose paramount duty was to upkeep law and order situation and protect innocent lives, gave full help to rioters who were in fact working under able guidance of sycophant leaders like Jagdish Tytler and H K L Bhagat. It is a known fact that many jails, sub-jails and lock-ups were opened for three days and prisoners, for the most part hardened criminals, were provided fullest provisions, means and instruction to "teach the Sikhs a lesson". But it will be wrong to say that Delhi Police did nothing, for it took full and keen action against Sikhs who tried to defend themselves. The Sikhs who opened fire to save their lives and property had to spend months dragging heels in courts after-wards.

-Jagmohan Singh Khurmi, The Tribune

These riots are alternately referred to as pogroms[2][3][4][23] or massacres.[24][25]

Meetings and distribution of weapons[edit]
On 31 October, the crowd around the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, began shouting for vengeance with slogans such as "Blood for blood!" and turned into an unruly mob. At 17:20, President Zail Singh arrived at the hospital and the mob outside stoned his car. The mob began assaulting Sikhs by stopping cars and buses to pull Sikhs out of them and burn their turbans.[26] The violence on 31 October was restricted to the area around the AIIMS and did result in many Sikh deaths.[26] People in other parts of Delhi reported their neighbourhoods were peaceful.

Throughout the night of 31 October and morning of 1 November, Congress leaders met with local supporters to distribute money and weapons. Congress party MP Sajjan Kumarand Trade Union leader Lalit Maken handed out 100 rupee notes and bottles of liquor to assailants.[26] On the morning of 1 November, Sajjan Kumar was seen holding rallies in, at least, the following Delhi neighbourhoods; in Palam Colony from 06:30 to 07:00, in Kiran Gardens from 08:00 to 08:30, and in Sultanpuri from around 08:30 to 09:00.[26] In Kiran Gardens at 8:00 AM, Sajjan Kumar was seen distributing iron rods from a parked truck to a group of 120 people and instructing them to "attack Sikhs, kill them, and loot and burn their properties".[26] At an undefined time in the morning of 1 November, Sajjan Kumar led a mob of people along the Palam Railway main road to the Mangolpuri neighbourhood where the crowd answered his calls with chants of "Kill the Sardars" and "Indira Gandhi is our mother and these people have killed her".[27] In Sultanpuri, Moti Singh, a Sikh who had served in the Congress party for 20 years heard Sajjan Kumar give the following speech:

Whoever kills the sons of the snakes, I will reward them. Whoever kills Roshan Singh and Bagh Singh will get 5,000 rupees each and 1,000 rupees each for killing any other Sikhs. You can collect these prizes on November 3 from my personal assistant Jai Chand Jamadar.[note 1]

The CBI recently told the court that during the riot Sajjan Kumar had said that "not a single Sikh should survive".[7][29] It also said that Delhi police kept its "eyes closed" during the riot as it was pre-planned.[7]

In the neighbourhood of Shakarpur, Congress (I) leader Shyam Tyagi's home was used as a meeting place for an undefined number of people.[28] H. K. L. Bhagat, the Minister of Information and Broadcasting distributed money to Boop Tyagi, Shyam Tyagi's brother, and ordered him to “Keep these two thousand rupees for liquor and do as I have told you.... You need not worry at all. I will look after everything.”[28]

During the night of 31 October, Balwan Khokhar, a local Congress (I) party leader who was later implicated in the ensuing massacre, held a meeting at the Ration Shop of Pandit Harkesh in the Palam Colony.[28] At 08:30 on 1 November, Shankar Lal Sharma, an active Congress party supporter, held a meeting at his shop where he formed a mob and had the people swear to kill Sikhs.[28]

The chief weapon used by the mobs, kerosene was supplied by a group of Congress Party leaders who owned filling stations.[30] In Sultanpuri, Brahmanand Gupta, the president of the A-4 block Congress Party distributed oil while Congress Party MP Sajjan Kumar "instructed the crowd to kill Sikhs, and to loot and burn their properties" as he had in other meetings throughout New Delhi.[30] In much the same way, meetings were held in places like Cooperative Colony in Bokaro where P.K. Tripathi, president of the local Congress Party and owner of a gas station in Nara More, provided kerosene to mobs.[30] Aseem Shrivastava, a Masters student at the Delhi School of Economics described the organised nature of the mobs in an affidavit submitted to the Misra Commission:

The attack on Sikhs and their property in our locality appeared to be an extremely organized affair...There were also some young men on motorcycles, who were instructing the mobs and supplying them with kerosene oil from time to time. On more than a few occasions we saw auto-rickshaw arriving with several tins of kerosene oil and other inflammable material such as jute-sacks.[31]

A senior official at the Ministry of Home Affairs informed journalist Ivan Fera, that an arson investigation of several businesses burned in the riots had uncovered an unnamed combustible chemical "whose provision required large-scale coordination".[32] Eyewitness reports confirmed the use of a combustible chemical besides kerosene.[32] The Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee later identified 70 affidavits which cited the use of a highly flammable chemical in its written arguments before the Misra Commission.[30]

Use of voter lists by the Congress Party[edit]
On 31 October, Congress party officials provided assailants with voter lists, school registration forms, and ration lists.[33] The lists were used to find the location of Sikh homes and business, an otherwise impossible task because they were located in unmarked and diverse neighbourhoods. On the night of 31 October, the night before the massacres began, assailants used the lists to mark the houses of Sikhs with letter "S".[33] In addition, because most of the mobs were illiterate, Congress Party officials provided help in reading the lists and leading the mobs to Sikh homes and businesses in the other neighbourhoods.[30] By using the lists the mobs were able to pinpoint the locations of Sikhs they otherwise would have missed.[30]

Sikh men not in their homes were easily identified by their distinctive turban and beard while Sikh women were identified by their dress. In some cases, the mobs returned to locations where they knew Sikhs were hiding after consulting their lists. One man, Amar Singh, escaped the initial attack on his house by having a Hindu neighbour drag him into his neighbour's house and declare him dead. However, a group of 18 assailants later came looking for his body, and when his neighbour replied that others had already taken away the body an assailant showed him a list and replied, "Look, Amar Singh's name has not been struck off from the list so his dead body has not been taken away."[30]

Timeline of events[edit]
First day (31 October)[edit]

• 09:20: Indira Gandhi is shot by two of her Sikh security guards at her residence, No. 1 Safdarjung Road, and rushed to All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS).
• 10:50: Indira Gandhi dies.[34][35]
• 11:00: All India Radio listeners learn that the two security guards who shot Indira Gandhi were Sikhs.
• 16:00: Rajiv Gandhi returns from West Bengal and reaches AIIMS. Stray incidents of attacks in and around that area.
• 17:30: The motorcade of President Zail Singh, who is returning from a foreign visit, is stoned as it approaches AIIMS.

evening and night

• Organized and well equipped gangs of ruffians set out in different directions from AIIMS.
• The violence, including violence towards Sikhs and destruction of Sikh properties, spreads.
• Rajiv Gandhi is sworn in as the Prime Minister.
• Senior advocate and BJP leader Ram Jethmalani, meets Home Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao and urges him to take immediate steps to protect Sikhs from further attacks.
• Delhi's Lt. Governor, P.G. Gavai and Police Commissioner, S.C. Tandon, visits some of the affected areas.

Second day (1 November)[edit]

• The first killing of a Sikh occurs in East Delhi.
• 09:00: Armed mobs take over the streets of Delhi and launch a massacre.

Among the first targets were Gurdwaras, the holy temples of Sikhs
The worst affected areas are low income colonies like Trilokpuri, Shahdara, Geeta Colony, Mongolpuri, Sultanpuri and Palam Colony. The few areas where the local police stations take prompt measures against mobs see hardly any killings or major violence. Farsh Bazar and Karol Bagh are two such examples.

Third day (2 November)[edit]
Curfew is announced throughout Delhi, but is not enforced. The Army deployed throughout Delhi too but ineffective because the police did not co-operate with soldiers (who are not allowed to open fire without the consent of senior police officers and executive magistrates).
Mobs continue to rampage.

Fourth day (3 November)[edit]
Violence continues. By late evening, the national Army and local police units work together to subdue the violence. After law enforcement intervention, violence is comparatively mild and sporadic.In Delhi the dead bodies of the victims of riots were taken to All India Institute of Medical Sciences New Delhi and Civil Hospital Mortuary Tis hazari, Delhi.[​

 

[kbd-raaf]

There's about 12-15 Modi bhakts on this thread, 2 Congis, 1 AAPtard.

This is a defense forum, people here are inherently patriotic. Therefore a logical conclusion is that the vast majority of patriotic Indians support Modi/BJP.

Also Rocky and Mayur:

https://twitter.com/x/status/441505686698987520

 

[Ammyy]

Rss, Bjp Role During 1984 Nov. Sikh Genocide : Rock Solid Proof - WHAT'S HAPPENING? - The Voice of Sikhs

Congress propogandA to wash their image .....

If Rajiv Gandhi was PM of India even after sikh riots then why the hell these chutiye log not shouted that time????

 

[Indian-Lion]

acha we can produce 10 claims against it there many commaities were formed by Congress them self Never found evidence against Rss but there own part workers Sajjan kumar tytler

RSS were involved in Sikh and Gujarat massacre

PDF proof: - RSS and Sikhs during the 1984 anti-Sikh riots(riots instigated by congress)

Jaiswal holds Sangh Parivar responsible for 1984 anti-Sikh riots- News Oneindia

 

[NKVD]

50 lakh people dont have toilet in gujarat

shining gujarat

View attachment 19856

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Congress propogandA to wash their image .....

If Rajiv Gandhi was PM of India even after sikh riots then why the hell these chutiye log not shouted that time????

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dont use C word.. we already got one guy ban for that

 

[Indian-Lion]

nice shitty pictures of feku and his drama