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jab asli muddon pe seedhi baat karte hain toh nationaliston ko inkaar hai, jab kuch frustrate hoke bandook uthate hain toh unko terrorist karaar diya jaata hai.

and ask soni sori about who actually is doing the oppression against the innocents... she herself is a victim. :)

25,000 political murders in West Bengal alone by the communists during their rule in the state tells us all how much they are interested in "ASLI MUDDE". And I haven't factored in Naxals, Maoists or Kerala.

You still haven't came back to me about sainbari killings .. where communists murdered two brothers and made their mother eat rice drenched with her own sons' blood.
 
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25,000 political murders in West Bengal alone by the communists during their rule in the state tells us all how much they are interested in "ASLI MUDDE". And I haven't factored in Naxals, Maoists or Kerala.

300,000 farmer suicides between 1995 and 2015, only because of the extreme capitalism of the indian state system... 250,000 suicides of all categories of indians just in 2012 and this contributing to 'world health organization' declaring in 2014 that india is 'suicide capital of the world'.

people in some northern/eastern regions presently eating grass rotis or dying of hunger.

a few thousand children dying every day on average because of malnutrition.

2000 indians on average selling their kidney every year because the country's state system does not care for their relief from artificial economic troubles.

things like these are the asli mudde. :)

kanhaiya kumar must be supported for demanding freedom from capitalism and the other evils.

You still haven't came back to me about sainbari killings .. where communists murdered two brothers and made their mother eat rice drenched with her own sons' blood.

i thought @Joe Shearer had put in a reasonable opinion of that a few months ago, so why this again??
 
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@Jaat Rock Do you think - he's going to answer these questions? :coffee:
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300,000 farmer suicides between 1995 and 2015, only because of the extreme capitalism of the indian state system... 250,000 suicides of all categories of indians just in 2012 and this contributing to 'world health organization' declaring in 2014 that india is 'suicide capital of the world'.

people in some northern/eastern regions presently eating grass rotis or dying of hunger.

a few thousand children dying every day on average because of malnutrition.

2000 indians on average selling their kidney every year because the country's state system does not care for their relief from artificial economic troubles.

things like these are the asli mudde. :)

kanhaiya kumar must be supported for demanding freedom from capitalism and the other evils.



i thought @Joe Shearer had put in a reasonable opinion of that a few months ago, so why this again??


These discussions consist of a bunch of political harlots exchanging pornographic information about each other. Don't tag me here, please.
 
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25,000 political murders in West Bengal alone by the communists during their rule in the state tells us all how much they are interested in "ASLI MUDDE". And I haven't factored in Naxals, Maoists or Kerala.

You still haven't came back to me about sainbari killings .. where communists murdered two brothers and made their mother eat rice drenched with her own sons' blood.

Marichjhapi Massacre (January 1979)

On Saraswati Puja Day, the Jyoti Basu-led Left front Government fired, starved, shot and killed Bengali Hindu refugees from Bangladesh, who had trooped into the state and had taken shelter in the Sunderban area. These refugees, largely Dalits who had escaped persecution in Bangladesh and sought shelter in India, were about 60,000 in number and “were taken in by the Left Front’s poll promises and had come over from the rehabilitation centre provided by the Centre in Dandakaranya (Odisha)” to Marichjhanpi in Suderban. Tear gas, blockade, firing, burning of camps were the methods used by CPI-M cadres and state police under Left front to disperse the refugees.


Many, while trying to escape, fell in the sea to be eaten by crocodiles; many bodies were dumped in the sea as well. Children – 8 years old, 12 years old, women and their babies, men and women in their seventies and eighties were killed in the firing. Till date, the exact number of deaths has not been known.” How many refugees died in police firing and how died when their boats sank while tried to escape will never be known. The refugees were hunted down just because a CPI-M government, led by proletarian leaders decided that they must be ousted. The CPI-M does talk of human rights and of the need for protecting it, but that talk is only reserved in favour of terrorists like Yakub Memon. Nor have those worthies now protesting at the FTII or their predecessors have ever made a documentary on the Marichjhapi pogrom.




Ananda Margi Monks Burnt Alive (April 1982)

Ananda Margi from all over the country were headed to an “educational conference” at the Tiljala centre in the southern suburbs of Kolkata when CPI-M cadres led by city leaders struck and burnt them alive. The party was wary that the Anand Margis would emerge as formidable force arresting their growth in the state. The procession wound its way was through what is now known as Bijon Setu in the Ballygunge area of south Kolkata.


Taxis carrying monks and sanyasins were intercepted at three separate locations, by CPI-M cadres the monks, two of whom were women, were doused in petrol and kerosene, and set on fire. At least 17 Margis were charred to death; several others were severely injured. The lynching was carefully planned and executed by Marxist cadres over a land dispute with the Marg. No CPIM leader has been brought to book till date.




Nanoor Massacre (July 2000)

CPI-M cadres and local leaders killed 11 landless Muslim labourers just because they were supporters of the opposition party and were resisting encroachment and land grabbing on July 27, 2000. The prime witness was also attacked and injured by CPI-M goons. The Statesman in an editorial wrote, “The sole purpose in attacking the prime witness in the gruesome Nanoor massacre of July 2000 in which 11 supporters were slaughtered by armed CPI-M cadres was to shield those responsible and abort their trial, by hook or by crook. The irony is that although five years have elapsed since the occurrence of the horrendous killings by the Marxists, the trial of their 79 accused comrades had not begun”.


The CPIM’s bike-riding “Harmad Bahini”, spread terror in the region, as it did over the years in areas where the Communist might was politically challenged. The pattern was to intimidate the women, burn huts, beat up and at times hack at the men and set fire to the collected grains before leaving. Often the villagers were compelled to leave the village and live in camps in neighbouring villages or had to leave the state altogether.




Nandigram Massacre (March 14, 2007)

The CPI-M-led government of the “poor and the peasants” tried to forcibly acquire 10,000 acres of agricultural land for a foreign company in Nandigram, in Purba Medinipur district. The farmers having formed a Bhumi Raksha Committee resisted the snatching of their lands. They were first attacked by CPI-M’s Harmad Bahini, who threatened and set fire to the villagers’ huts and prepared the ground that led to firing which saw over 14 farmers die and over 70 getting injured. The real figures will never be known, people saw piles of farmers’ bodies dumped. The government of the proletariat, which derived its strength from farmers and from landless labourers and from the poor, did not think twice while mowing them down.

@Jaat Rock Do you think - he's going to answer these questions? :coffee:
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I don't think he is a dalit- He is a Bhumihar- for those who don't know Bhumihars are the most Feudalistic and Supremacist caste responsible for suppressing other castes in Bihar- They even attacked the honor of low caste families and regularly attacked women of weaker sections- now every Bhumihar is not like that but some of them have earned quiet a reputation in Bihar for the things they have done in past- they were also part of Ranveer sena in a Big way-
 
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Declassify Bluestar files, says Swamy, defends Bhindranwale

Terming the 1984 Operation Bluestar “foolishness on the part of then prime minister Indira Gandhi”, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader and newly nominated Rajya Sabha member Subramanian Swamy on Saturday demanded declassification of its files to bring out the truth behind allowing army into the Golden Temple in Amritsar.

Addressing the students of Lovely Professional University (LPU) here, Swamy said in reply to a question from one that he believed slain militant leader Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale to be a preacher who promoted Sikhism and motivated youth to stay away from drugs. “Since Bhindranwale at that time was only 35, his style of preaching was a bit aggressive, and that’s what prompted many to think that he was a hardliner, even a terrorist. I met him many times before this operation. He would call media to the Akal Takht in routine. Why would any terrorist hold press conferences?” said Swamy.

Starting the controversial topic in his speech, the MP said it was communist leader Harkishan Singh Surjeet who had conveyed it to communist-ruled former Union of Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR) that if Sikhism returned to Punjab, it would wipe out communism from the state. “Once a Soviet ambassador to India also accepted that because of pressure from Surjeet, USSR had asked prime minister Indira for the operation. Then president Giani Zail Singh had asked me to advise Indira not to take this step under the Soviet pressure. I talked to her but she was so obsessed with the USSR that she could not say no,” said the five-time MP.

Swamy said when he had raised question in 1984 over calling Bhindranwale a terrorist; many political parties had opposed him. “I lost an election because of this stand. But my opinion will remain the same. Only the declassification of files and few sentences in the post-Bluestar carnage against Sikhs in Delhi would provide relief to the community and bury the issue forever,” said the BJP leader.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/punja...hindranwale/story-EPux3vEpg4TWkdPcB6VjXK.html
 
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‘Hindu terror’ part of Pak GHQ campaign against India
ByMADHAV NALAPAT| NEW DELHI | 23 April, 2016

The effort to create the bogey of ‘Hindu terror’ was to ‘provide a camouflage net for the activities of domestic terror groups owing allegiance to ISI and also to make Muslims distrust Hindus’.

The $15 billion narcotics lobby in India was used by GHQ Rawalpindi to promote the concept of “Hindu terror”, sources close to that establishment aver. They say that “manufactured evidence was planted about such groups that were accepted at face value by Indian investigators at the time”. The effort to create the bogey of “Hindu terror” was to “provide a camouflage net for the activities of domestic terror groups owing allegiance to the ISI and also to make Muslims distrust Hindus”. Another objective was to make other countries “as suspicious of Indians as they were of Pakistanis”.

However, creating the bogey of “Hindu terror” was only Strand 1 in the design of GHQ to “make the international community regard India and Pakistan as birds of a feather in matters of extremism and terror”. Strand 2 was to “sow suspicion and mistrust about Delhi in Tehran and Kabul”. It will be remembered that cooperation between the security establishments of Iran, Afghanistan and India is vital in order to defeat the designs of the ISI and its proxies against the three countries. Strand 3 was to show to China that “India was facilitating acts of terror against Chinese nationals operating in Pakistan”, thereby passing the blame for such actions from the security establishment in Pakistan, which is honeycombed with ultra-Wahhabis who believe in the establishment of an ISIS Caliphate across the subcontinent. Strand 4 was to ensure that the international community equates India with Pakistan as countries that sponsor terror, extremist and insurgent groups, thereby preventing India from leveraging the international community against Pakistan.
These sources claim that “under the direction of Chief of Army Staff Raheel Sharif, all four strands are proceeding well”, even though Strand 1 (Hindu terror) appears to have hit rough weather with revelations of the flimsy nature of the charges against the alleged “Hindu terror” perpetrators.
Establishment sources claim that General Raheel Sharif is working on “reversing the global perception that India is the victim and Pakistan the aggressor in the matter of fomenting terror and unrest”. This is being done by “getting India and Pakistan equated in the matter”. “This strategy (of painting India in the same colours as Pakistan was globally regarded) was worked on (by General Sharif) during his time heading the Pakistan military academy around a decade back”.
General Sharif, according to these contacts, “asked for and got set up a special cell which collected information on Narendra Modi while he was Chief Minister in Gujarat”, as the present Prime Minister of India was identified as the likely successor to Manmohan Singh in 2014, in 2011 itself by the GHQ brains trust. It will be recalled that the ISI, which functions as per the direction of GHQ, expended considerable effort in seeking to damage the image of Narendra Modi in London, New York and Geneva through the instrumentality of NGOs set up for the purpose of blackening the global image of India, including Khalistan groups that have recently become hyper-active after years of relative somnolence. These NGOs were also given significant traction in Washington and other capitals through “logistical support” by individuals linked to the ISI.
Sources within Pakistan claim that Kulbushan Yadav, accused by GHQ of being an R&AW agent, will only be the first in a long chain of those who are to be paraded globally as evidence that India is involved in destabilisation operations in Pakistan, “especially in seeking to do a Bangladesh in Balochistan and even in assisting terror groups active against the Pakistan state”. They say that nine individuals are now in the custody of the security agencies in Pakistan and they are being coached to come out with stories of Indian involvement, not only in Pakistan but in Iran and Afghanistan as well. They say that in the case of Kulbushan Yadav, “General Sharif personally briefed the Chinese that the Indian national was involved in seeking to blow up a lodge in Gwadar where Chinese technicians were staying and also seek to commit other acts of sabotage along the $45 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor”. The Ashraf Ghani government in Afghanistan “has been given dossiers (which purport to show) that India is keeping contact with and assisting elements of the Taliban, contrary to stated policy”, while Iran “has been given dossiers about Yadav using the territory of that country to assist the Baloch not only in Pakistan but in Iran as well”. Soon, “other (so-called) Indian agents will be outed and made to tell how they were active not only against Pakistan, but against China, Afghanistan and Iran as well”.
The sources say that “by 2019, when the present term of Prime Minister Modi ends, the objective is to paint Delhi as South Asia’s leading state sponsor of terrorism and insurgency, far ahead of Rawalpindi on both counts”. Indeed, Pakistan Foreign Affairs Advisor Sartaj Aziz has publicly called India a “state sponsor of intervention”, including in giving support to terror groups. It is extremely unlikely that any of the unfortunates apprehended by the ISI is a genuine agent, as sources in Pakistan admit that “even the most elementary precautions (such as dead drops, cut-outs and personal meetings) were dispensed with in their operations”. However, the Pakistan side claims that such lack of precautions on the part of the supposed agents was motivated by “a desire for quick results as well as over-confidence”.
Already, Islamabad has briefed ASEAN as well as GCC envoys about manufactured claims of “Indian interference and support to terror”, and after more so-called Indian agents get paraded, more such briefings are likely. In short, Pakistan is following to the letter the rulebook followed by India in the past while exposing the activities of GHQ.
There has also been a ramping up of efforts to ensure a drumbeat of terror strikes in India during the coming two years, which are seen as crucial for the Modi government as it enters 2019, when Lok Sabha elections take place. No less than 13 suicide attacks have taken place in Kashmir since Modi became PM, and an organised effort is on to re-ignite insurgency in the Valley. Simultaneously, “clusters of Indian nationals are being organised in India and in other locations and given directions on what is needed to get done to poison communal relations in India”. It needs to be kept in mind that the ISI recruits from all communities for its activities in India, rather than just a single community. Indeed. “in Nepal, almost all the key ISI facilitators are Hindu”, many involved in the hawala trade, which, together with narcotics, is controlled in South Asia by the ISI.
GHQ is looking warily at Prime Minister Modi’s innovative approach towards diplomacy, and to his outreach towards Pakistan, China and the US. The nightmare scenario for the generals would be a closer military partnership with the US (through the signing of the three Foundation Accords) and ultimately a trillion-dollar commercial partnership with China, beginning with an India-China Economic Corridor that would cut through the Maoist belt across India with roadways and growth opportunities. Fortunately for GHQ, elements in the Indian strategic and security establishment remain wedded to the hyper-cautious approach of the past, and regard with disfavour the breakthrough in India-US and India-China relations that could take place before 2019, in case Prime Minister Modi is able to ensure that “naya soch” enters a system clogged with debris from the past. What is clear is that there is an organised effort by GHQ to blacken the international image of India, and that this is a process in which General Sharif has registered some success. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has lost much ground to the Chief of Army Staff, in large part because the US and China both favour the military rather than the civilian leadership, unlike India.
The “masterstroke” being planned by GHQ, according to sources close to the establishment, is to pin the blame for the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) on India before 2019, thereby “further planting suspicions about India within the international community”. The coming years will show whether General Sharif will succeed or fail in his efforts at separating the US, Iran, Afghanistan and China from India through allegations that are a mirror image of the charges made against Pakistan by successive governments in Delhi.

http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/i...du-terror-part-pak-ghq-campaign-against-india

The Communists and the Congress are clearly hand in gloves with Takfeeri and IS-Alqaeda nexus- And their grand plans of starting the war from Khurrasan- Don't laugh on this- They are not laughing, they are dead serious about It- Communists and Congress are behaving just like JaiChand, Lodhi, or Mir Jaffar here- and have invited them to invade India once again- We need good opposition to settle the dispute of Modi and BJP becoming all powerful- and IMO good opposition is needed to keep in check the Government- Here opposition may not mean a party with 50+ seats in LokSabha even a single person like RM Lohia can be as strong If not better- Hence I think the Socialists groups like Samajvadi, JDU, RJD, BJD, JDS etc needs to reunite and present a strong opposition which may have bad history and corruption records but they still have not aligned themselves with the malicious intent of the foreigners like the Congress and the Communists- These people have a bad record of being involved in nefarious activities in states like Assam, West Bengal, Kerala, Punjab, Andhra Pradesh to keep themselves in Power- Now they are doing similar things on National level- Although as I write this even the Socialist groups are being infiltrated- namely SP and RJD-
 
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If he'll start answering questions like this, so-called liberals and intellectuals will stop portraying him as LEADER.
He is just a dramebaz and i am expecting more like him after success of Arvind Kejriwal... He is just Kerjiwal 2.0.

Aptly put.

@jamahir Your new socialist champion Kanhayya is now more rich and more pampered than 90% of Indians.
He used his new found status to get a window seat by intimidating a poor chap. Unfortunately for pee pee Kanhayya, this poor chap turned out to be a tough cookie.

Btw...Kanhayya is 30 year old.....why would any 30 year old fight for a window seat?!!!
 
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After seeing some of the poll results, is BJP Victory in 2019 pretty much guaranteed?

Assam and Kerala are going to be huge losses for Congress if the Polls are to be believed, with BJP routing Congress in the Northeast in a sweep that will probably spread to all the former Congress strongholds in the Sister States.

And Communist parties can't compete at the national level, even as they route Congress in Kerala, and neither can TMC and other regional parties as they secure expected victories in their home states.

With Congress no longer being a national level player, who else can challenge BJP in 2019 LS elections? AAM doesn't seem like a strong contender at the national level where they have no presence. Coalition of regional parties + Congress didn't pan out either in 2014, so no reason to believe it will work this time either.

Has the Leftist strategy simply shifted to try and rebuild around AAM for a decade and dump Congress to concede 2019 and hope for a miracle by 2024?

By 2024 Modi will have stepped down and it will be one of his ministers, either Parrikar, Goyal, or Gadkari to contest the PM spot.



ALSO of note, is that we might be seeing the midlife crisis of the Media now that they are off the payroll of the Government like in past eras.

Relentless demonisation of Narendra Modi is wrong

Last week I met the Prime Minister to give him a copy of my new book and was surprised to find him unchanged. Media reports and political gossip had led me to believe that the ‘chaiwallah’ from Gujarat was so glamourised by his new job that he had become big-headed and bumptious. So it took me by surprise to find him exactly as he was when I last met him for a longish conversation in Gandhinagar more than two years ago. As then, we spoke without interruption from aides or cellphones, and as then, he listened carefully. It was a private conversation and not an interview, so I am not going to reveal details but mention this meeting only to make the point that the relentless demonisation of Narendra Modi is wrong. It began after the Gujarat violence in 2002 and now that he is Prime Minister, it harms India almost more than it harms him.

The demonisation halted briefly during the 2014 election campaign when voters made it clear that he was their choice, but began again almost immediately after he moved into 7, Race Course Road. It started, as far as I can remember, when a junior minister from Jammu restated the long held BJP position on Article 370. Hysterical headlines the next day shrieked that Modi was going to cause violence in theKashmir Valley, and Kashmiri politicians shrieked louder about how they would die rather than allow their state’s special status to be changed. When Kashmir did not erupt, other reasons were found to charge him with ‘weakening India’s secular fibre’. I am not sure who invented the phrase, but I put it in quotation marks because it is used so often.


There have been no major communal riots in the past two years but every small incident has been blown up in the media into a huge atrocity. Two or three churches were attacked within months of Modi becoming Prime Minister, and we made it sound as if there was a general attack on the Christian faith. This made international headlines. Then came the murders of three rationalists, and this was made so big an issue that academics in fine American universities announced that dissent was being crushed in India. Then came the horrible murder of Mohammad Akhlaq, and this caused ‘secular’ writers to return literary awards on the grounds that secularism was being destroyed.

Hysteria in the media about ‘growing intolerance’ reached such a pitch that someone as loved and celebrated as Aamir Khan announced at the Ramnath Goenka Awards ceremony last year that his wife had for the first time talked of leaving India. Modi was personally held responsible for this ‘growing intolerance’ and somehow nobody noticed that he had shown unusual tolerance about being personally attacked on TV chat shows every night.

Now that Christians have discovered that they are as safe in India as they ever were and Muslims have found that they can refuse to say Bharat Mata ki jai and still live in India, it is the turn of the Dalits. Rohith Vemula’s suicide was a tragedy beyond words, but was he the first Dalit student in Hyderabad University to kill himself? How do we not even know the names of the others? And are Dalits really under threat because of the Modi government? You would think so if you believed what JNU student leaders are saying as they travel around Indian campuses making angry speeches about the crushing of free speech.

India is no more tolerant or intolerant than it has ever been. Christians, Muslims and Dalits are probably safer today than they have ever been, not because of a change in policy but because the media is more powerful than ever before. This power is something that the Prime Minister must pay more attention to. When the Godhra riots were made to sound like the worst communal violence since 1947, and when Modi was personally accused of orchestrating it, he resolved to stay far away from the media. This policy may have worked in Gujarat, but it is not working at the national level because the media is too powerful to be ignored. It is also capable of creating its own narrative and making people believe it. Every time I return to Delhi after a short absence, I discover a new storyline. The latest is that Modi has centralised power so totally in his hands that he has become a despot and that his ministers have no power.

If the Prime Minister wants to stop having his agenda for governance and development derailed, he must build better relations with the media. How he does this is his choice, but the White House model is a good one to emulate. The American President speaks on important issues and his spokesmen remain available for comment at all times.

(This article first appeared in the print edition under the headline ‘Fifth Column: Modi and the media’)

Interesting piece worth reading to everyone here.

Reading inbetween the lines:

Media is furious that Modi is not interacting or giving them their due bribes as was standard in UPA days. The Media starting to turn desperate for a return back to corruption, handouts, and being onboard Air India and getting a paid vacation with unlimited booze during foreign trips.

"It [media] is capable of creating its own narrative and making people believe it" sounds very much like a veiled threat. Pay us or we will continue the rhetoric. So far it has been ineffective in getting Modi to return their 'Special Status' that was rampant during the UPA days. So will the new tactic by the Media now be begging and trying to appear more neutral to negotiate a new era of Presstitution with the Central Government?
 
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oye Chaddis ...........just a question......................why Modi still in love with Badals when even RBI has said that they did scam of 12000 crore ???

any chaddi wishes to answer??

@Parul @ranjit @dray

You are asking the wrong question.

The right question is why are the sikhs in love with the Akalis ?

BJP will support any sikh party which will side with its ideology. In fact if the sikhs were to vote for BP in large numbers, it would not need the Akalis or the Badals.
 
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oye Chaddis ...........just a question......................why Modi still in love with Badals when even RBI has said that they did scam of 12000 crore ???

any chaddi wishes to answer??

@Parul @ranjit @dray

Because West Bengal and Bihar have shown that people will still vote for corrupt parties.

As long as people are willing to vote for corrupt parties, it will be difficult for any national party to resist an alliance. Congress, AAM, BJP, Commies, etc. will always play politics if it is in their favor. Don't let the Dharnas fool you, politics is still a dirty game and those who don't play dirty will lose. Winners are always pragmatists, not ideologues.
 
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