Indian PM & Chinese PM - Back-to-back visits to boost India-China ties

[Kaniska]

Nice positive article to see in media from China.

Is world big enough for India, China? - The China Post

 

[Dash]

and I guess once NaMo comes this will reach greater heights..

 

[Developereo]

When in a democracy, foreign realtions are taken by the mood respresented by the media?

When did I say that?

Distrust challenges peaceful rise of India and China - The Washington Post

Surveys conducted by the Pew Global Attitudes Project show that just 25 percent of Indians had a favorable or somewhat favorable view of China in 2011, compared with 34 percent in 2010, albeit among a different population sample, and 57 percent in 2005.

P.S. Anyway, I only injected a reality check because someone mentioned Pakistan in this thread. Do carry on...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

It has nothing to do with ideological differences, but how India sees itself in the new world order.

India itself seems confused; the Indian narrative oscillates between
- "India and China together for an Asian century"
and
- "India is Asia's bulwark against Chinese hegemony"



Indian media reflects the Indian public's mood: the media produces what the public wants to buy.

Are you saying Indian democracy is a sham and doesn't reflect the public's view?

LOLL, Developereo now you're not coming through as the thinking kind of person but as a fantasising kind, considering the degree of extrapolation that can indulge in.

"India sees itself as a bulwark against Chinese hegemony"; is that the declared Indian Policy? Why then is India involved in dialog as well as concerted action with China on so many counts as well as on so many fora?

Indian Media is a "Rainbow"in its orientation and its articulation. Which part of Indian Media reflects Govt. Policy?
Thefore the inference that Indian Media reflects Indian opinion is itself absurd.
Just as the statement that "the media produces what the public wants to buy" is grossly meaningless. Even the consumer giant Hindustan Unilever does not produce all the Soaps and Tooth-Pastes that the Indian Public wants to buy.

While your last statement is laughable to the extreme and was just introduced by you to belabor points that had already run out of gas.

 

[Dash]

When did I say that?

Distrust challenges peaceful rise of India and China - The Washington Post

Surveys conducted by the Pew Global Attitudes Project show that just 25 percent of Indians had a favorable or somewhat favorable view of China in 2011, compared with 34 percent in 2010, albeit among a different population sample, and 57 percent in 2005.

Dear Sir - As a learned person you surely know that all the story that has been built around China is built by media, and media only is a main reason for creating the deficit of trust and infuse fear.

The common man reads what these channels post.

The MEA guys in GOI are good guys and smart enough and best in their business. The rules that come out of that building carries only one signature, national interest.

 

[SamantK]

When did I say that?

Distrust challenges peaceful rise of India and China - The Washington Post

Surveys conducted by the Pew Global Attitudes Project show that just 25 percent of Indians had a favorable or somewhat favorable view of China in 2011, compared with 34 percent in 2010, albeit among a different population sample, and 57 percent in 2005.

An unfavourable view does not mean that you would not like to improve relations.

Also even say 25 percent do hold a favourable view the poor which consists another big chuck do not even care or know why China was hated. So the public mood as represented by media is no way to make foreign policy.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Oh yeah, I remember that one.

NDTV - China could attack India before 2012



Before 2012, as in by the end of 2011.

Hell, I remember loads of people saying that Hu Jintao's peaceful rise was a load sh*t and that China under him was going to attack everyone and start WW3.

But did Hu Jintao start any wars? No, his term ended peacefully. And now we have a new Xi-Li Administration, who seem even more determined to maintain peace and stability.

Maybe that bald guy got the millenium wrong then.

 

[Developereo]

While your last statement is laughable to the extreme and was just introduced by you to belabor points that had already run out of gas.

Just carry on laughing since serious discussion that challenges your wishful thinking is clearly beyond your comfort zone.

Between whiffs of nitrous oxide, you might want to read up on poll data, official Chinese concerns about Indian media and such trivialities.

I am enjoying your twists and turns to continue denying the reality of Indian public opinion on China but, of course, that is the narrative to be expected by Indians on a Pakistani forum.

The common man reads what these channels post.

It's a two-way street. The media produces what the public wants to buy.

The MEA guys in GOI are good guys and smart enough and best in their business. The rules that come out of that building carries only one signature, national interest.

Of course and, as I mentioned before, there are two opposing views in India on how to deal with China's rise.

 

[Jade]

It has nothing to do with ideological differences, but how India sees itself in the new world order.

India itself seems confused; the Indian narrative oscillates between
- "India and China together for an Asian century"
and
- "India is Asia's bulwark against Chinese hegemony"



Indian media reflects the Indian public's mood: the media produces what the public wants to buy.

Are you saying Indian democracy is a sham and doesn't reflect the public's view?

Whatever the media try to portray about India and China. Isn't the Li's first foreign visit as PM to India and a reciprocal visit by the Indian PM convey something else?

 

[OrionHunter]

Fifty years after a war across their high Himalayan frontier left decades of bitterness, the Chinese media, echoing the establishment’s thinking, today struck a positive note, declaring India and China had come a long way to establish a “comprehensive strategic partnership”.

Suggesting that the spectre of war should be left behind, the tightly-controlled Chinese media in a rare commentary on Sino-India ties said the two nations had achieved progress despite differences due to unresolved border disputes.

“The rational attitude taken by India’s leaders and top officials, not only conforms to the demands of this era of peace, development and co-operation, but is also in the fundamental interests of the peoples of the two countries and a reflection of the current state of bilateral relationship,” it said.

Stating that the two countries came a long way from the deadly conflict that resulted in deaths of thousands of troops on both sides, it said progress was achieved despite differences due to unresolved border dispute. “Moreover, looking at the larger picture, the two nations have already been successful in establishing a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership and have reached a consensus on six points of Political Guiding Principles to resolve the border dispute. All these elements represent the fundamentals and mainstream of the bilateral relationship,” it said.

“In the face of major global political and economic changes taking place in the world, India is attaching even greater attention to its relations with China. India now considers its relationship with China as an important part of its overall modernisation strategy, and one that is of great significance to global peace and stability,” it said apparently addressing the hardliners in Chinese defence establishment.

“India does not allow its territory to be used for anti-China activities, does not participate in any containment or encirclement strategy vis-a-vis China, recognises the Tibet Autonomous Region as part of Chinese territory, and does not allow Tibetan exiles in India to engage in anti-China activities,” it said.

“India hopes to work with the Chinese side in order to maintain peace and tranquility in the border regions, and arrive at a final solution to the border problem through friendly negotiations,” it said.

http://www.firstpost.com/world/us-sowing-discord-between-strategic-partners-india-china-497279.html

Add to this the Sino Indian trade which is zooming ahead with $70 billion presently and slated to reach $100 billion by 2015 and $500 billion by 2020-21!!

Cheers!

 

[joekrish]

We did not come into being because of China or even India. LOL

no surprises there, your land did come out of India.

 

[Dash]

It's a two-way street. The media produces what the public wants to buy.


Of course and, as I mentioned before, there are two opposing views in India on how to deal with China's rise.

Well our media is quite good when it comes to exaggeration and specifically when it comes to China, they sell their story saying China is pakistan's ally, and that one clicks with the common man. Because of the so called issues we have with Pakistan.

The one view point I will give you, India at present can not oppose China's rise and the typical mindset is towards co-existance. This is main on agenda. MEA doesnt care what the common man thinks.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Maybe that bald guy got the millenium wrong then.

Haha, if humans survive till the next millennium (doubtful) then it still be the Zhonghua Confederation of Worlds vs. The Bharat Confederation of Worlds.

3012, be ready for it.

 

[Developereo]

Isn't the Li's first foreign visit as PM to India and a reciprocal visit by the Indian PM convey something else?

You tell me what it means, in tangible terms, beyond symbolism.

 

[joekrish]

Not at all.

Everyone knows the real situation on the ground between the three countries.

The real Indian feeling towards China can be gauged, not by comments on a Pakistani forum , but by the Indian media, Indian literature, and the mass of online comments by Indians.

After all, the Indian media produces what sells best.

Accepted but you will have take in to consideration that there is only one way that this relationship can go and that is up. The Chinese and the Indians will someday find a middle ground.