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IN A DESPERATE plea for peace, a prominent Indian MP and former minister has called for his country to be “unilaterally liberal on visas” for certain people from Pakistan as he attempts to avoid war between the two counties, it has been revealed.

Shashi Tharoor, who also chairs India’s Parliamentary Standing Committee on External Affairs, said a “de facto open border for large numbers of people” would promote better bilateral relations between both nations.

The liberal visas for Pakistanis would be available those such as businesspeople, journalists, artists and musicians, Mr Tharoor explained.

He claimed it was sad that both countries were not as close as the US and Canada are.

Mr Tharoor claimed the Pakistani Army were at fault for the bad relations.

He said: “Until and unless Pakistani civil society can reduce the predominant space occupied by its army, there will always be a very strong constituency of people who would want to see hostility, not just with India but also with Afghanistan, because that justifies the army’s disproportionate privileges.

“Unfortunately, in recent years India feels that you can’t have normal relations with a society from where attacks keep coming across the border.

“Pakistan could easily help by making an example of these terrorist groups and arresting some of these terrorists.”

His words have come after Pakistan last week declared that it is “worried” about India’s “predator drone technology” as tensions rise between the


Islamabad’s Foreign Office spokesman, Mohammad Faisal, issued the concern during a weekly media briefing amid concerns New Delhi could utilise the technologies for surveillance and reconnaissance.

He said: “India’s development of drone technology is worrying when seen in the larger context of its buildup and expansion of military capabilities in the conventional and non-conventional domains, which are subjecting regional strategic stability to increasing strain.”

India recently carried out a successful test of its Rustom 2 drone that is regarded as being similar to the US’ predator drones.

It is unknown if there are any future plans for India to place weapons on their drones.

india-pakistan-1258824.jpg
GETTY

The main area of tension between the two South Asian nations stems from the Jammu and Kashmir region
Mr Faisal declared the Indian drones should abide by the UN charter, international humanitarian law, and other procedures.

The main area of tension between the two South Asian nations stems from the Jammu and Kashmir region.

Wars between India and Pakistan in 1947 and 1965 centred around competing claims for the area.

Both sides have been responsible for violations along the border.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/928203/india-pakistan-shashi-tharoor-visas-border-war-kashmir


“Liberal visa policy will improve relations between India and Pakistan,” former Indian state minister says

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1260696/world


DUBAI: India should be “unilaterally liberal on visas” for certain people from Pakistan, such as businesspeople, journalists, artists and musicians, according to a prominent Indian MP, author and former minister.
By creating a “de facto open border for large numbers of people” this would promote better bilateral relations, Shashi Tharoor told Arab News, at the Emirates Airline Festival of Literature.

He said India and Pakistan have “a tremendous amount of mutual synergy” and a “shared culture.”

Tharoor, who chairs the Parliamentary Standing Committee on External Affairs, said it was sad that the two countries did not share the closeness of the US and Canada, which have open borders.

The fundamental problem lies with the Pakistani Army’s control of “the largest share” of the country’s gross domestic product (GDP), he said.

“Until and unless Pakistani civil society can reduce thepredominant space occupied by its army, there will always be a very strong constituency of people who would want to see hostility, not just with India but also with Afghanistan, because that justifies the army’s disproportionate privileges,” he added.

“Unfortunately, in recent years India… feels that you can’t have normal relations with a society from where attacks keep coming across the border,” said Tharoor.
“Pakistan could easily help… by making an example of these terrorist groups (and) arresting some of these terrorists.”

Referring to his book, “Inglorious Empire,” Tharoor said the British Raj took away a lot more than it left behind. “What they (British Raj) left behind was only created to enhance their own power, to increase their own profits, or to perpetuate their own control. It was not about benefiting the Indians.

“They came to India because they found in India an extremely rich country. They exploited and ruined it, depopulated the industrial towns. Dhaka and Murshidabad became the first cities in the modern world to actually lose population in the beginning of the 19th century because their weaving industry had been destroyed by the (British) East India Company.”
It has become fashionable among historians to argue that the British helped India through the building of the railways, but he added: “Railways were brought in as a big colonial scam, major profits made by the Brits, run for the interest of the Brits, designed to exploit resources in the hinterland and bring them to the ports as well as to move soldiers in to quell the unrest. It was not designed the help the Indians to get around.”

“Indians financed not only the British government in India, and some very lavish salaries and pensions, but British imperial adventures elsewhere. Indian soldiers died in many of these British campaigns in foreign countries including the two world wars.”

Tharoor believes that social media has been an effective tool to reach the people directly. “Social media is indispensable. It’s a means to reach the public directly and not having to go through the media who may misinterpret, misspelt, misquote whatever you are saying. In many ways it becomes valuable to be able to reach people directly through the social media.”
Also, by being able to use social media to project as many aspects of "my personality, my ideas, my beliefs and my convictions, I give the voters a chance to see the whole me before voting for me. That I think on the whole will turn out to be a positive,” said Tharoor, who has pioneered the use of on social media in Indian politics.
 
We have tried similar overtures for past 70 years to vain. Current Indian goverment policy is to subject Pakistan to isolation. Lets follow it.
 
he is right how will the Indian govt talk to the Govt of ooppss its the army of pakistan.... First get your hierarchy in order, before speaking to us.....

Yes we know how desperate you keyboard warriors are to attack Pakistan Army, thanks for proving it once again.

Oh and by the way, this is one of your officials begging for visas so how about you get your foreign policy in order before speaking to us.
 
The liberal visas for Pakistanis would be available those such as businesspeople, journalists, artists and musicians, Mr Tharoor explained.
Understandable. Quiet possible but the issue is these are the areas Modi people are targeting the most.

LMAO.:lol::lol:lol::lol:
Shasi tharooe is not an official.
He India’s Parliamentary Standing Committee on External Affairs as per this report so his suggestion is quiet in line with the post
 
It is good to have multiple views in a society. Of course, even the leaders who engineered the Partition of India envisaged a US-Canada like close relation. I remember reading that Jinnah even suggested that Calcutta be a "free city" and be made available to both - India and Pakistan.
What's done is done. Unfortunately, social media is just filled now with so much hate and vitriol that I don't see peace being achieved for all anytime soon.
 
The liberal visas for Pakistanis would be available those such as businesspeople, journalists, artists and musicians, Mr Tharoor explained.
All cosmopolitans and Liberals who care more about their Twitter follower count rather than their country.

Mr Tharoor claimed the Pakistani Army were at fault for the bad relations.

He said: “Until and unless Pakistani civil society can reduce the predominant space occupied by its army, there will always be a very strong constituency of people who would want to see hostility, not just with India but also with Afghanistan, because that justifies the army’s disproportionate privileges
Pakistan Army is the only institution in Pakistan that is most dearest to the common Pakistani because it has been loyal to them time and again in good times and bad. Civil society is full of Western wannabe's who care more about their personal fame.
 
IN A DESPERATE plea for peace, a prominent Indian MP and former minister has called for his country to be “unilaterally liberal on visas” for certain people from Pakistan as he attempts to avoid war between the two counties, it has been revealed.

Shashi Tharoor, who also chairs India’s Parliamentary Standing Committee on External Affairs, said a “de facto open border for large numbers of people” would promote better bilateral relations between both nations.

The liberal visas for Pakistanis would be available those such as businesspeople, journalists, artists and musicians, Mr Tharoor explained.

He claimed it was sad that both countries were not as close as the US and Canada are.

Mr Tharoor claimed the Pakistani Army were at fault for the bad relations.

He said: “Until and unless Pakistani civil society can reduce the predominant space occupied by its army, there will always be a very strong constituency of people who would want to see hostility, not just with India but also with Afghanistan, because that justifies the army’s disproportionate privileges.

“Unfortunately, in recent years India feels that you can’t have normal relations with a society from where attacks keep coming across the border.

“Pakistan could easily help by making an example of these terrorist groups and arresting some of these terrorists.”

His words have come after Pakistan last week declared that it is “worried” about India’s “predator drone technology” as tensions rise between the


Islamabad’s Foreign Office spokesman, Mohammad Faisal, issued the concern during a weekly media briefing amid concerns New Delhi could utilise the technologies for surveillance and reconnaissance.

He said: “India’s development of drone technology is worrying when seen in the larger context of its buildup and expansion of military capabilities in the conventional and non-conventional domains, which are subjecting regional strategic stability to increasing strain.”

India recently carried out a successful test of its Rustom 2 drone that is regarded as being similar to the US’ predator drones.

It is unknown if there are any future plans for India to place weapons on their drones.

india-pakistan-1258824.jpg
GETTY

The main area of tension between the two South Asian nations stems from the Jammu and Kashmir region
Mr Faisal declared the Indian drones should abide by the UN charter, international humanitarian law, and other procedures.

The main area of tension between the two South Asian nations stems from the Jammu and Kashmir region.

Wars between India and Pakistan in 1947 and 1965 centred around competing claims for the area.

Both sides have been responsible for violations along the border.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/928203/india-pakistan-shashi-tharoor-visas-border-war-kashmir


“Liberal visa policy will improve relations between India and Pakistan,” former Indian state minister says

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1260696/world


DUBAI: India should be “unilaterally liberal on visas” for certain people from Pakistan, such as businesspeople, journalists, artists and musicians, according to a prominent Indian MP, author and former minister.
By creating a “de facto open border for large numbers of people” this would promote better bilateral relations, Shashi Tharoor told Arab News, at the Emirates Airline Festival of Literature.

He said India and Pakistan have “a tremendous amount of mutual synergy” and a “shared culture.”

Tharoor, who chairs the Parliamentary Standing Committee on External Affairs, said it was sad that the two countries did not share the closeness of the US and Canada, which have open borders.

The fundamental problem lies with the Pakistani Army’s control of “the largest share” of the country’s gross domestic product (GDP), he said.

“Until and unless Pakistani civil society can reduce thepredominant space occupied by its army, there will always be a very strong constituency of people who would want to see hostility, not just with India but also with Afghanistan, because that justifies the army’s disproportionate privileges,” he added.

“Unfortunately, in recent years India… feels that you can’t have normal relations with a society from where attacks keep coming across the border,” said Tharoor.
“Pakistan could easily help… by making an example of these terrorist groups (and) arresting some of these terrorists.”

Referring to his book, “Inglorious Empire,” Tharoor said the British Raj took away a lot more than it left behind. “What they (British Raj) left behind was only created to enhance their own power, to increase their own profits, or to perpetuate their own control. It was not about benefiting the Indians.

“They came to India because they found in India an extremely rich country. They exploited and ruined it, depopulated the industrial towns. Dhaka and Murshidabad became the first cities in the modern world to actually lose population in the beginning of the 19th century because their weaving industry had been destroyed by the (British) East India Company.”
It has become fashionable among historians to argue that the British helped India through the building of the railways, but he added: “Railways were brought in as a big colonial scam, major profits made by the Brits, run for the interest of the Brits, designed to exploit resources in the hinterland and bring them to the ports as well as to move soldiers in to quell the unrest. It was not designed the help the Indians to get around.”

“Indians financed not only the British government in India, and some very lavish salaries and pensions, but British imperial adventures elsewhere. Indian soldiers died in many of these British campaigns in foreign countries including the two world wars.”

Tharoor believes that social media has been an effective tool to reach the people directly. “Social media is indispensable. It’s a means to reach the public directly and not having to go through the media who may misinterpret, misspelt, misquote whatever you are saying. In many ways it becomes valuable to be able to reach people directly through the social media.”
Also, by being able to use social media to project as many aspects of "my personality, my ideas, my beliefs and my convictions, I give the voters a chance to see the whole me before voting for me. That I think on the whole will turn out to be a positive,” said Tharoor, who has pioneered the use of on social media in Indian politics.

Though not a tharoor fan, found his comments logical and sensible and in line with his previously stated position in this regard.

However,

Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but didn't see any desperate plea to avoid war or for anything else anywhere in the post.

OP has some pretty pathetic understanding of the English language or extremely poor eyesight and needs to rectify whichever is at fault.. :-)
 
sushma suraj show her back after every visa is good sign
 

India has been identified as the largest recipient of U.S economic assistance over a 66-year period

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According to the data [1] that the World Bank collects, this is how much foreign aid India has received in recent years

2009: 2,500,390,000
2010: 2,806,360,000
2011: 3,228,250,000
2012: 1,667,630,00
 
Why would anyone want to visit an openly bigoted and dangerous society like India?

Sure, India of 1999 or even 2006..
Not the bloodthirsty mongrels that make up the majority of their society now and show up on pdf in packs.
They will probably kill off whatever sanity remains in India before they come for Pakistan.. Nazis.
 
Why would anyone want to visit an openly bigoted and dangerous society like India?

Sure, India of 1999 or even 2006..
Not the bloodthirsty mongrels that make up the majority of their society now and show up on pdf in packs.
They will probably kill off whatever sanity remains in India before they come for Pakistan.. Nazis.

But India is getting USD 60+ billion FDI p.a. and more than 10 million foreign tourists visits, y.o.y increase of 15% and USD 27 billion revenues. How is that even possible?
 

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