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Indian Navy sinking of Pirate 'Mother Ship' was actually a 'Thai Trawler'

might have been done by the IN we dont know.


it looks like a trawler from the photos. Apparently its not a tanker or a cargo ship to be described/identified easily. Is there any other way to quickly/correctly identify or can trawlers be described easily some way? trying to understand.

No as per Indian Accounts itself this was never done. As regards the trawler identification nearly all ships carry Janes book for identification of ships on their bridges.

Also all ships have their name on the bow as well as the stern. This makes it easy for IMB to identify it.

Thats what the RN did two days before and then let this trawler go as were informed about hostages onboard.

Our foreign office passed all the information to the Thai Govt.

Regards
 
More clarifications from IN:



According to Indian Navy sources, INS Tabar first communicated with the alleged pirate vessel with two speed boats in tow at 6.45 p.m. on Nov 18 on a frequency accessed by every ship in the vicinity. However, the vessel continued sailing towards the Somalian coast as INS Tabar tried to close in.

An hour later, armed men were spotted on the deck of the vessel and INS Tabar fired first warning shots around 7.45 p.m, asking it to stop. After repeated 'threatening calls' to blow the stealth frigate, the pirates fired at INS Tabar and 'retaliatory shots' were fired from the guided missile stealth frigate at 9.23 p.m., the navy said.

'The Thai company's claims have given rise to many questions. Firstly, if there were hostages aboard, why did not the pirates use them as human shield to get a way out? Secondly, the series of explosions on the vessel suggest large quantity of ammunition aboard,' a senior official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.


Sunken vessel was indulging in piracy: Indian Navy

WHY ARE THEY SPEAKING AS ANONS IF THEY ARE RIGHT ?

Seems very strange and stinks of a cover up.

Regards
 
WHY ARE THEY SPEAKING AS ANONS IF THEY ARE RIGHT ?

Seems very strange and stinks of a cover up.

Regards

Oh wow....that's brilliant deduction. Its an Indian Navy source and they have clarified their version events.

Now if you can find fault in the way they acted, please do so.

No need to caste aspersions based on some speculation as to why the spokesperson chose to remain anonymous.
 
INS Tabar acted only on a pirate vessel: Indian Navy

New Delhi (PTI): Caught in a controversy over "sinking of a Thai ship", Indian Navy on Wednesday said it was "convinced" that it had acted against a pirate ship on the high seas.

The Navy said its warship INS Tabar had taken action against the ship only after being fired at by the pirates on board the vessel.

"As far as we are concerned, we acted against a pirate ship on the high seas," Navy spokesman Nirad Sinha said in New Delhi in the backdrop of a controversy as Thailand has stated that INS Tabar had hit its ship.

Giving details of the operation on November 19, the spokesman said the Naval officers on board the INS Tabar had detected a suspect ship on the high seas and asked it to stop.

"It, however, continued to move while threatening to blow up the Tabar," Sinha said.

"We observed people with guns on the deck. They kept threatening us and fired. Our action was in response to their firing," the spokesman said.

"The kind of explosives and ammunition, which was there on the vessel, proved that it was held by the pirate," he said, adding "we are convinced that we acted against pirates on high seas".

On reports that there were about 14 people on board who had died, the spokesman said the INS Tabar found no bodies.

The Hindu News Update Service
 
Dear G,

I have been at sea since 16 on both on naval and merchant ships and I know what i am talking about.

Please mark my words this incident will show the indian navy in bad light in times to come.

Regards

But this is an IN officer, not your Royal Navy one. He may get promoted, instead of court-marshaled, if you read those Indian reactions. :woot:
 
No as per Indian Accounts itself this was never done. As regards the trawler identification nearly all ships carry Janes book for identification of ships on their bridges.

Also all ships have their name on the bow as well as the stern. This makes it easy for IMB to identify it.

Thats what the RN did two days before and then let this trawler go as were informed about hostages onboard.

Our foreign office passed all the information to the Thai Govt.

Regards



The navy spokesman says the crew of the Tabar saw no markings on the hostile vessel indicating it might have been a legitimate fishing vessel that had been seized.


VOA News - Indian Navy Insists Destroyed Ship Was Controlled by Pirates
 
Oh wow....that's brilliant deduction. Its an Indian Navy source and they have clarified their version events.

Now if you can find fault in the way they acted, please do so.

No need to caste aspersions based on some speculation as to why the spokesperson chose to remain anonymous.

So now days Indian Navy speaks anon.

What brave men.

Regards
 
No as per Indian Accounts itself this was never done.
any links? sorry missed it if you have already posted it

As regards the trawler identification nearly all ships carry Janes book for identification of ships on their bridges.

Also all ships have their name on the bow as well as the stern. This makes it easy for IMB to identify it.
Considering that tabar has rescued or safely guided many other ships, it would have been done obviously after identification. Something different might have happened this time that prompted tabar to make a different response that didnt happen with the other ships.

Thats what the RN did two days before and then let this trawler go
So RN did stop a ship in international waters something which you were deadly against.

but this concerns me...

"They have to accept that OK, they sank our boat by accident or mistake or whatever," he said. "And we'd like to ask them whether have they looked for the missing crew
As per the owner even he agreed that such mistakes can happen(if it indeed), but why didnt tabar hang around?
 
So now days Indian Navy speaks anon.

What brave men.

Regards

It has got nothing to do with bravery. It was not an official statement so the person prefered to remain anonymous.

If you have anything to say about what the spokesman said rather than why he didn't give is name, please do so.

Till then, I consider the actions of IN fully vindicated.
 


The navy spokesman says the crew of the Tabar saw no markings on the hostile vessel indicating it might have been a legitimate fishing vessel that had been seized.


VOA News - Indian Navy Insists Destroyed Ship Was Controlled by Pirates

ha ha flint lock you are so clueless.

The IN could see men running with RPGs on the deck but could not see the markings ?

Do you know that the markings are welded in steel letters and can only be removed by professionals ?

If that clod of a captain had dialled IMB they would have told him which trawler it was. If RN can do it why can't IN. Saving money as sat phone calls are quite costly ?

Regards
 
Gosh, I wonder what would happen if you showed such righteous concern every time an American drone killed a dozen civilians in Pakistan.

Condemn the same, plus call for withdrawal of American troops from all over the world, except from Germany and Japan.
 

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