Indian Navy rejects Tejas LCA, seeks alternative

[BHarwana]

Reported by IHS jane's
After 33 years of design and development HAL has still to deliver a Jet that can compete in world war 1.
The Indian Navy (IN) has rejected the long-delayed naval variant of the locally designed Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) and said it has plans to import a replacement fighter for carrier-based operations.

"The LCA-Navy in its present form is not up to the mark and does not meet the operational capability required by the IN," the service's Chief of Staff Admiral Sunil Lanba said in New Delhi on 2 December.

Adm Lanba declared that the single-engine aircraft, which is powered by a General Electric F404-GE-IN20 turbofan engine, did not fulfil the IN's thrust-to-weight requirement for taking off from the deck of an aircraft carrier with an adequate fuel and weapons load.
http://www.janes.com/article/65993/indian-navy-rejects-naval-version-of-tejas-lca-seeks-alternative

Tejas Grave
The failure of HAL will put the Made in India dream in the Grave

 

[Water Car Engineer]

HAL got a extended order for 80+ in the form of Tejas MK1A. How many more threads are going to be about this?

Even floated a tender for 100 AESA radars for Tejas models.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/india-floats-radar-tender-for-light-combat-aircraft/

 

[BHarwana]

HAL got a extended order for 80+ in the form of Tejas MK1A. How many more threads are going to be about this?

This is the first of it kind here PDF will love to discuss the failure of Tejas to satisfy the Indian Navy

 

[Water Car Engineer]

This is the first of it kind here PDF will love to discuss the failure of Tejas to satisfy the Indian Navy

The navy was the one the pick this TD to be operationalized. It wont be ready. Please go check it's RFI, your very own JF would be rejected. It's geared for a long legged carrier based fighter like Rafale-M.

On the other hand, 80 more Tejas were ordered for the IAF. HAL has already floated a tender for 100 AESA radars for those models. So please, save it.

 

[GumNaam]

tejas is bad 33 year old joke!

 

[BHarwana]

The navy was the one the pick this TD to be operationalized. It wont be ready. Please go check it's RFI, your very own JF would be rejected. It's geared for a long legged carrier based fighter like Rafale-M.

On the other hand, 80 more Tejas were ordered for the IAF. HAL has already floated a tender for 100 AESA radars for those models. So please, save it.

lol HAL will deliver those in 3017 not in 2017 + 83 years.

NEW DELHI: The Navy has rejected the naval version of the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA), holding that the "overweight" fighter cannot optimally operate from aircraft carriers, and is now looking to induct an alternative fighter from abroad in the next five to six years.

"We will continue to support Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) and Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), but the naval LCA in its present form unfortunately does not meet our qualitative requirements for carrier capability," said Admiral Sunil Lanba on Friday.

The single-engine Tejas, which is "too heavy", does not meet the "thrust-to-weight requirement to take off with a full fuel and arms load" from an aircraft carrier's deck. At present, the Navy has inducted over 30 of the 45 MiG-29K fighters acquired from Russia for $2 billion. Both the MiG-29Ks and the naval Tejas were supposed to operate from the 44,400-tonne carrier INS Vikramaditya as well as the under-construction 40,000-tonne INS Vikrant, which will be ready by 2019-2020.
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"In addition to MiG-29Ks, we now need an alternative aircraft to operate from these two carriers. If you look around the world, there are not too many options available and we need this carrier-capable aircraft sooner than later. So, I am looking at next five to six years," said Admiral Lanba.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ooks-for-alternative/articleshow/55761834.cms

 

[Water Car Engineer]

lol HAL will deliver those in 3017 not in 2017 + 83 years.

HAL is producing Su 30 MKIs, Hawks, Dhruvs, Rudras, etc, etc, etc. Once it's production stabilizes, it'll be fine.

Now, again, get over the fact it got even more orders, with AESA radars being ordered for it.


You Pakistanis should pray for a N-Tejas, instead of a Rafale-M or Super Hornet, Mig 29K combo on your flank.

 

[BHarwana]

HAL is producing Su 30 MKIs, Hawks, Dhruvs, Rudras, etc, etc, etc. Once it's production stabilizes, it'll be fine.

Now, again, get over the fact it got even more orders, with AESA radars being ordered for it.


You Pakistanis should pray for a Tejas, instead of a Rafale-M or Super Hornet, Mig 29K combo on your flank.

Tejas is a Failure your own IAF and Navy is rejecting it. Pakistan started decades after India and place JF-17 before India and PAF has 70 in service lol JF-17 is going to be block 3 now and India don't has 3 operational Tejas lol. Your R&D is a Joke. lol. those firms which made AESA deal with HAL are crying as there are no jets to fit them onto lol

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Tejas is a Failure your own IAF and Navy is rejecting it. Pakistan started decades after India and place JF-17 before India and PAF has 70 in service lol JF-17 is going to be block 3 now and India don't has 3 operational Tejas lol. Your R&D is a Joke. lol. those firms which made AESA deal with HAL are crying as there are no jets to fit them onto lol

IAF just order 80+ more, come again about IAF rejecting what? We all know who did the real work in your JV, please save that. What serious aerospace R&D were you doing now with joke of a budget of yours, let alone in the 90s? What R&D were you doing when the senior partner got help from the Russians in the program? Hell did you offer to the Russians or the Chinese who had decades of experience in aerospace?

 

[BHarwana]

IAF just order 80+ more, come again about IAF rejecting what? We all know who did the real work in your JV, please save that. What serious aerospace R&D were you doing now with joke of a budget of yours, let alone in the 90s? What R&D were you doing when the senior partner got help from the Russians in the program?

The word JF in JF 17 means joint fighter at least we can make, fly and sell a fighter jet. It has been 33 years man are you stupid enough to still pay raju for HAL. You people need to fire RAJU. What about the trainers HAL was going to deliver to IAF HJT 39 and 36. Has HAL delivered any. you should better buy K-8 from Pakistan or India is in some pretty bad shit and about you budget India is 7x larger so according to the expenditure ration Pakistan is doing much better lol stupid people.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The word JF in JF 17 means joint fighter at least we can make, fly and sell a fighter jet. It has been 33 years man are you stupid enough to still pay raju for HAL. You people need to fire RAJU. What about the trainers HAL was going to deliver to IAF HJT 39 and 36. Has HAL delivered any. you should better buy K-8 from Pakistan or India is in some pretty bad shit and about you budget India is 7x larger so according to the expenditure ration Pakistan is doing much better lol stupid people.

You offered paint, that's about it. If the Chinese company called on Russia for help, what did you do? God knows. Especially, wtf did you do in the 90s, let alone now. Even the air to air probe certification needed to be done by China. What do you guys even do to make fun of India's efforts?

Everyone knows, it seems your only industry you have is defence and aerospace, everything else is complete nothing. No one buys it.

 

[GumNaam]

HAL is producing Su 30 MKIs, Hawks, Dhruvs, Rudras, etc, etc, etc. Once it's production stabilizes, it'll be fine.

Now, again, get over the fact it got even more orders, with AESA radars being ordered for it.


You Pakistanis should pray for a N-Tejas, instead of a Rafale-M or Super Hornet, Mig 29K combo on your flank.

hal isn't making anything. they are only assembling. big difference between the two. the only think they kinda sorta made was this tejas. and we all know how that turned out!

 

[BHarwana]

You offered paint, that's about it. If the Chinese company called on Russia for help, what did you do? God knows. Especially, wtf did you do in the 90s, let alone now. Even the air to air probe certification needed to be done by China. What do you guys even do to make fun of India's efforts?

Hahahaha. Typical Indians JF means joint Fighter lol. We are making it PAC is making it and selling it tell me about Tejas how many are you flying after 33 years of development lol. You Indians don't know how to make blades for jet engines. Your home made jet engine is a biggest flop of the century. Till today you can not produce a blade of a jet engine. Your beloved Hawk which was a joint effort with BAE was also rejected by IAF lol. India has disgraced a big company like BAE systems lol. The only thing made in India is matka. your cannot make a cruise missile above 300 km range can you tell me why because brahmos is a paint job and buying 300 km plus range is not allowed. lol

 

[Water Car Engineer]

hal isn't making anything. they are only assembling. big difference between the two. the only think they kinda sorta made was this tejas. and we all know how that turned out!

It's making MKIs from raw materials. Let's not talking about assembling here, because that's what basically happens all over Pakistan. Even those 90s Honda bikes.

You Indians don't know how to make blades for jet engines. Your home made jet engine is a biggest flop of the century.

 

[GumNaam]

It's making MKIs from raw materials. Let's not talking about assembling here, because that's what basically happens all over Pakistan. Even those 90s Honda bikes.

yeah sure man. the only thing "raw" in the mki is the pilot!