Indian Navy New killer Machine P8i

[majesticpankaj]

who cares.. anybody u will go on a war against against... these beasts will take care of them... Huge implications for pakistan for sure

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

Really?

P-3C Orion - Maritime Patrol and Anti-Submarine Warfare - Naval Technology
P-8A Poseidon Multimission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) - Naval Technology

Is the Poseidon's gyro-stabilised MX-20HD digital electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) multi-spectral sensor turret with up to seven sensors including infrared, CCDTV, image intensifier, laser rangefinder and laser illuminator. inherently better than e.g the FLIR Systems Star SAFIRE II thermal imager adopted by the Royal Australian Air Force on its Orions

The P8 aircraft is equipped with the upgraded APS-137D(V)5 maritime surveillance radar and signal intelligence SIGINT system developed by Raytheon. But then, Update IV programme improvements to the Orion also iinclude Raytheon's AN/APS-137(V) multi-mission surveillance radar. So both have this AN/APY-10 which provides Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) mode ...


You need to compared the offer of the refurbed P-3c to India with the P8i

American Lockheed-Martin offers refurbished P3C Orions to Indian Navy | India Defence

India considering purchase of Orion P-3 aircraft - Express India

No doubt Pakistan has had the same equipment options available for its P-3C. Why would Raytheon product X in a Pakistani Lockheed P-3C be performing any different from same equipment in Boeing P-8i?

If upgraded P-3C's are so great then why is USN replacing it with it P-8's.P-3C's cost 40 million US$ P8-I'S 250 million US$

 

[Kinetic]

Check out the Indian Map in the image........................

Being will be kicked out of the deal if they don't.

Not really India has huge area to cover compare to pakistan so they need 10 or even more surveillance plane . pakistan having 7 P-3 orion with upgrade is enough to secure its maritime border

Yes, India has huge areas to cover, most of the bay of bengal, arabian sea and Indian ocean. our preparedness is also according to the same in terms of both quality and quantity.

 

[ganimi kawa]

can it go to Mars in less than 10 hours with full payload?

Do they have submarines on mars?

 

[Kinetic]

^^^ Everything is possible for him. You cannot ask him if there are ships/submarines on Mars.

Really?

P-3C Orion - Maritime Patrol and Anti-Submarine Warfare - Naval Technology
P-8A Poseidon Multimission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) - Naval Technology

Is the Poseidon's gyro-stabilised MX-20HD digital electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) multi-spectral sensor turret with up to seven sensors including infrared, CCDTV, image intensifier, laser rangefinder and laser illuminator. inherently better than e.g the FLIR Systems Star SAFIRE II thermal imager adopted by the Royal Australian Air Force on its Orions

The P8 aircraft is equipped with the upgraded APS-137D(V)5 maritime surveillance radar and signal intelligence SIGINT system developed by Raytheon. But then, Update IV programme improvements to the Orion also iinclude Raytheon's AN/APS-137(V) multi-mission surveillance radar. So both have this AN/APY-10 which provides Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) mode ...


You need to compared the offer of the refurbed P-3c to India with the P8i

American Lockheed-Martin offers refurbished P3C Orions to Indian Navy | India Defence

India considering purchase of Orion P-3 aircraft - Express India

No doubt Pakistan has had the same equipment options available for its P-3C. Why would Raytheon product X in a Pakistani Lockheed P-3C be performing any different from same equipment in Boeing P-8i?

He is talking about Indian P-8I and Pakistani P-3C not others. What are the difference between two. Why USN replacing P-3C with P-8A? Thanks.

 

[T90TankGuy]

They lost two aircraft in attack by terrorist at karachi. however they have asked for more plane. If it was not forgetten from memory yet pak nave two.

there were different kind of planes one is for naval search the other of aew (airborne earliar warning) it is not get which type planes destructed.

before this few year ago india lost 2 Tuplovs collided with each kther near Goa.

they were il38 not tupolev . and we got them replaced from russia .

 

[Galaxy]

Do they have submarines on mars?

No, But They have Aircraft Carrier with Rafale fleet and Many Destroyers.

 

[Varad]

Great news for the Navy.

 

[Kinetic]

they were il38 not tupolev . and we got them replaced from russia .

Upgraded Il-38s are great MPA now.

 

[Dharmachakra]

P-8I can carry upto 4 Brahmos-I ALCM under its wings.This alone makes it a potent Anti-Ship platform.And its long range milti-mode radar in the nose cone and the aft radar will provide fire control to Brahmos.

USN P-8 has no MAD. But IN insisted on having a MAD.

It would be interesting if P-8I will carry the same no.of Brahmos-II( hypersonic) variants This just shivers the dothis of any invasion force in the IOR.
And with an IFR, it will just rule the IOR.

IN cant just depend on A/C for anti-sub patrolling. It has to speed up its sea-bed sonar array program. That way the data received can be cued with central processing station (just like what AF is doing with its Radars).

In the coming years, IOR will be a fortified backyard of IN. With its 3 Carrier battle groups and A&N Command(hosting maritime MKI`s acting as an unsinkable carrier)

For perfect long-range Recce, IN needs atleast 24 MPR. And the EEZ can be covered with medium range range MPR. Priority should be given to Long range ones, cos the EEZ is already in full control.

I would say the blue water force structure by 2022-2025 would be a solid 3 carrier battle groups.Possibly carrying Naval-AMCA/ FGFA. I would rather put my bets on Navalised- AMCA. Because of the reason that all carriers will be able to operate this one, unlike FGFA. Also IN envinsed its interest in the project since its design.( Mig-29K, N-LCA should be replaced with N-AMCA).Similarly Those maritime Jags and MKI`s should be replaced with FGFA( for extra range and puch power). Overall we will be looking at around 100 N-AMCA and 50 maritime FGFA.
P-8I number should be bumped to 24. IN should participate in the NAL RTA-90 and make it choice-I for medium MPR.

For time being the lack of sub-force can be compensated with its alternatives ,untill the numbers been bumped up with SSN`s and SSK`s.

 

[Veeru]

self delete

 

[Major.]

the actual range of P-8I is 8889.6 KM that is 4800nautical miles.....it can rule the IOR with this range.....it can fly mission Like GOA- Indian Ocean- Muscat- GOA without refueling and and on Eastern side Arakonam-Indian Ocean-mallaca Straits- Arakonam without refuelling....

the link which states Range

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[Mabs]

Where do you expect to place our armed forces then- Andaman Nicobar Islands.

Like Pakistan India also places our armed forces according to threat perception. Throughout our entire history, India was invaded from the West so majority of our forces are concentrated on our western border. As far as China's threat is concerned we have a natural barrier in Himalayas and its not a tank country. If China attacks, our forces there eventhough few in number can hold out until our forces fully mobilize. On the other hand our western border is open and flat and ideal for quick armoured incursions.

I am glad to see you accepting that your defense spending are primarily based on the threat perception from Pakistan. Now hep your fellow countrymen understand this as well and stop saying that " oh Pakistan does not need to worry about anything" and " our defense preparations are not Pakistan-oriented"

 

[Mabs]

The deployment is not a state cast in stone. In the summer months, Pak sends their agents and militants across the border and forces are deployed to do the needful. Also China border is peaceful and the issues are resolved over a table and not on th border. With Pakistan where anything can be tried by them from time to time, operational preparedness is the key.

Please stop embarrasing yourself by comparing deployment to orientaion. And to the other newbie who wrote in bold that Indian defence is Pakistan specific, try to think why the MMRCA aircrafts in large numbers and Su30 MKIs + a few mountain division are in the north east.

Haa man I am not even going to reply to you because when you throw in arguments like " we have deployed our strike elements on the Western border to stop the militants from slipping in" then there is nothing left to argue. Your deployment reflects your orientation pal, you are really outa your zone here. Do yourself a favor and check up on how many forward air bases and armored and mechanized elements you Air Force and Army have on the Western border. It is alright to accept the reality ramu, shows that you can take things like a man.

 

[tallboy123]

bro does this makes sense now whatever you are saying!?

Think logically and it is all about the NUMBERS GAME!

Around 80% of Indian armed forces (all of their armored divisions, most advanced fighter jets forward operating bases, mechanized infantry etc etc) are all oriented towards Pakistani border and are all situated at Pakistani border!

So how the heck are Indian armed forces NOT situated towards Pakistan or not Pakistan orientated! It is all about NUMBERS man, and if u study the number and percentages of deployment, then YES INDIA IS PAKISTAN SPECIFIC!

YES Now having said this. all 6 of these P8is will not be situated against Pakistan as India has a MASSIVE shoreline to protect, so most of these 10 P-8is will be used against China and are China specific!

Indian navy wants to use it against submarines which r threat to India...
Who r threat to India?
Pakistan n China...

So navy will 100000% sure it will be used against pak navy n China navy in times of war

We r not rich enough to use these against somalian pirates