INDIAN MOD ON PROCUREMENT OVERDRIVE

[Major Shaitan Singh]

BM-21 Grad 122mm MBRL will one among the important defence procurement systems in the future

The Indian MoD has cleared acquisition proposals in excess of INR 60000 crore (US $9.98 billion approx.) during the last five months. Ever since Manohar Parrikar took over as the minister of defence in November last year, he has held three Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) meetings. The DAC is India’s supreme defence procurement decision-making body and the next step after the DAC approval is contract negotiation with the selected vendor.

Among the major procurement decisions taken by the DAC Mine Clearing Vessels; Airborne Warning and Control aircraft, Basic Trainer Aircrafts, Mounted Artillery Guns and Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers.

The onus of these contracts has been on ‘Make in India’ theme, outlined by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Take the case of the Mine Clearing Vessels. Goa Shipyard has been given the mandate for the manufacture of 12 vessels at a cost of INR 32,000 crore (US$5.3 billion). The shipyard has been given the autonomy to choose a foreign manufacturer which will provide the technology.

The most important ‘Make’ category deal has been awarded to HAL for manufacture of HTT-40 turbo-prop Basic Trainer Aircraft at an unstated volume by which the line could fully match economies of scale and profitable.

The Army’s long standing demand for artillery guns have also been accorded the Buy and Make (Indian) category at an estimated cost of INR 15,759 crore (US$2.5 billion). While the primary contractor will be a yet-to-be-chosen Indian corporate, it has been allowed to select its own foreign partner.

A Russian company has been selected to supply Grad Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers (MBRLs).

 

[kakathiya]

BM-21 Grad 122mm MBRL will one among the important defence procurement systems in the future

The Indian MoD has cleared acquisition proposals in excess of INR 60000 crore (US $9.98 billion approx.) during the last five months. Ever since Manohar Parrikar took over as the minister of defence in November last year, he has held three Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) meetings. The DAC is India’s supreme defence procurement decision-making body and the next step after the DAC approval is contract negotiation with the selected vendor.

Among the major procurement decisions taken by the DAC Mine Clearing Vessels; Airborne Warning and Control aircraft, Basic Trainer Aircrafts, Mounted Artillery Guns and Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers.

The onus of these contracts has been on ‘Make in India’ theme, outlined by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Take the case of the Mine Clearing Vessels. Goa Shipyard has been given the mandate for the manufacture of 12 vessels at a cost of INR 32,000 crore (US$5.3 billion). The shipyard has been given the autonomy to choose a foreign manufacturer which will provide the technology.

The most important ‘Make’ category deal has been awarded to HAL for manufacture of HTT-40 turbo-prop Basic Trainer Aircraft at an unstated volume by which the line could fully match economies of scale and profitable.

The Army’s long standing demand for artillery guns have also been accorded the Buy and Make (Indian) category at an estimated cost of INR 15,759 crore (US$2.5 billion). While the primary contractor will be a yet-to-be-chosen Indian corporate, it has been allowed to select its own foreign partner.

A Russian company has been selected to supply Grad Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers (MBRLs).

why do we need MBRL when we have our own system" pinaka" and smerch what are the advantages of this system?

BM-21 Grad 122mm MBR

smerch

pinaka

?

india has 150+ of BM-21 Grad 122mm MBRl why not go for modern system?

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

why do we need MBRL when we have our own system" pinaka" and smerch what are the advantages of this system?

india has 150+ of BM-21 Grad 122mm MBRl why not go for modern system?

Looking into the modern WAR "Arab Spring and Syrian War"

There is a heavy use of Artillery and Indian Army is going in the correct path, we need them and lots of them.
Pinaka is good but it still has to be tested in Battle field.

 

[cirr]

You guys call this “overdrive”？

 

[kakathiya]

Looking into the modern WAR "Arab Spring and Syrian War"

There is a heavy use of Artillery and Indian Army is going in the correct path, we need them and lots of them.
Pinaka is good but it still has to be tested in Battle field.

why not go for the modern ones why go to the 80's technology, they don't have a radar and they are just fire and forget.
RM 70 MRL

Bateleur 127 mm 40 tube multiple rocket launcher of South African Army

CHINESE MRBL

The Jobaria (monster) is the most powerful 122-mm artillery rocket system ever built

M270 MBRLS

DOES INDIA HAVE SUCH A THING LIKE THE CHINESE HAVE?

 

[ayesha.a]

Pinaka is good but it still has to be tested in Battle field.

Untrue. Pinaka was used in the Kargil war, and very succesfully at that. Since then, it has proved its mettle in all tested conditions. It makes no sense to purchase more Grad, when we have a superior, indegenous, cheaper system. I'm pretty sure that's an error in reporting - they could be purchasing Smerch, not Grad.

 

[kakathiya]

TOS-1A OF RUSSIA WHY NOT INDIA BUY THESE

 

[SuperSubrayan]

why not go for the modern ones why go to the 80's technology, they don't have a radar and they are just fire and forget.
RM 70 MRL

Bateleur 127 mm 40 tube multiple rocket launcher of South African Army

CHINESE MRBL

The Jobaria (monster) is the most powerful 122-mm artillery rocket system ever built

M270 MBRLS

DOES INDIA HAVE SUCH A THING LIKE THE CHINESE HAVE?

You got a point . Why not go for more powerful and modern systems ? That too the third from the last looks very mean .

 

[uparyupari]

why do we need MBRL when we have our own system" pinaka" and smerch what are the advantages of this system?

india has 150+ of BM-21 Grad 122mm MBRl why not go for modern system?

Pinaka can drop 12 missiles over a distance of 40 km.

BM-21 Grad can drop 40 Missiles over a distance of upto 45 km.

BM 21 Grad also carries a reload of 40 more missile, which means it can actually launch 80 missiles by itself.

See the difference ?

But good news is Pinaka war head is 250 kg, BM 21 Grad warhead is 26 kg i.e. 10th of Pinaka.

In comparison, Bofors 155 mm Artillery gun has the same range, but its warhead is only 6.5 kg. Not to mention, these guns are not self propelled unlike the BM 21 Grad.

 

[Manindra]

Here go Modi's make in India rant

 

[uparyupari]

Here go Modi's make in India rant

LOL, why ?

Considering the fact that Pinaka is 3 TIMES more effective than BM 21 Grad, why would the IA or MOD buy it ?

BM 21 Gran delivers 1000 kg of ordinance over 40 KM. Pinaka delivers 3000 kg of ordinance over the same distance with a BETTER CEP

Not to mention, its cheaper and was built as an replacement for BM 21 Grad.

Indian Media is not the most reliable with matters concerning Defence.

 

[Manindra]

LOL, why ?

Considering the fact that Pinaka is 3 TIMES more effective than BM 21 Grad, why would the IA or MOD buy it ?

BM 21 Gran delivers 1000 kg of ordinance over 40 KM. Pinaka delivers 3000 kg of ordinance over the same distance with a BETTER CEP

Not to mention, its cheaper and was built as an replacement for BM 21 Grad.

Indian Media is not the most reliable with matters concerning Defence.

Good if misreported neither very disappointing news .

 

[kakathiya]

Pinaka can drop 12 missiles over a distance of 40 km.

BM-21 Grad can drop 40 Missiles over a distance of upto 45 km.

BM 21 Grad also carries a reload of 40 more missile, which means it can actually launch 80 missiles by itself.

See the difference ?

But good news is Pinaka war head is 250 kg, BM 21 Grad warhead is 26 kg i.e. 10th of Pinaka.

In comparison, Bofors 155 mm Artillery gun has the same range, but its warhead is only 6.5 kg. Not to mention, these guns are not self propelled unlike the BM 21 Grad.

BM21 Grad

Each 2.87-meter (9 ft 5 in) rocket is slowly spun by rifling in its tube as it exits, which along with its primary fin stabilization keeps it on course. Rockets armed with high explosive/fragmentation, incendiary, or chemical warheads can be fired 20 kilometers (12 mi). Newer high explosive and cargo (used to deliver anti-personnel or antitank mines) rockets have a range of 30 kilometers (19 mi) and more. Warheads weigh around 20 kilograms (44 lb), depending on the type.

2B17 or also BM-21-1: This upgrade was presented for the first time in 2003 and was developed by Motovilikha Plants from Perm. The system is fitted with a satellite navigation system NAP SNS, automated fire control system ASUNO, APP laying system and can fire a new generation of rockets with a range of 40 km (25 mi). The truck is the Ural-43201.

9P138 "Grad-1": lighter 36-round version, mounted on a six-by-six ZIL-131 chassis. The vehicle with supporting equipment (rockets, transporter 9T450 and re-supply truck 9F380) is referred to as complex 9K55. The 9P138 can only use "short-range" rockets with a range of 15 km (9.3 mi). It used to be known in the West as BM-21b orM1976.

RM 70 MBRL
RM-70 was developed in Czechoslovakia as a successor for the RM-51, achieving initial operational capability with its Army in 1972. The launcher was being produced in Dubnica nad Váhom (Slovakia). Originally, it was sold to East Germany. After the Soviet Union collapse and the split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovak Republic, it was sold to several states in Africa, America, Asia and Europe.

RM-70 replaced the Ural-375D 6x6 truck by a Tatra T813 "Kolos" 8x8 truck as carrier platform for the 40-round launcher. The new carrier vehicle provides enough space for carrying 40 additional 122mm rockets pack for reload. Nevertheless, RM-70 performance remains near the same as Grad even in terms of vehicle's speed and range. This rocket launcher can fire both individual rounds and volleys, principally by means of indirect fire. It is designed for concentrated fire coverage of large areas (up to 3 hectares in one volley) by high explosive fragmentation shells. The fire is robust with almost 256 kg of explosives used in one volley of 40 rockets. The rockets used are either the original Soviet 9M22 and 9M28, or locally developed models. These are the JROF with a range of 20.75 km, the JROF-K with a range of 11 km, the "Trnovnik" with 63 HEAT-bomblets and with a range of 17.5 km, the "Kuš" with five PPMI-S1 anti-personnel mines or the "Krizhna-R" with 4 anti-tank mines PTMI-D and with a range of 19,450 m.

The vehicle is provided with a central tyre pressure regulation system (to allow its adaptation to the nature of the traversed ground), a headlight with white light on the forward cab roof and, if necessary, with a snow plough SSP 1000 or a dozer blade BZ-T to arrange its own emplacement or to remove obstacles.

 

[uparyupari]

BM21 Grad

Each 2.87-meter (9 ft 5 in) rocket is slowly spun by rifling in its tube as it exits, which along with its primary fin stabilization keeps it on course. Rockets armed with high explosive/fragmentation, incendiary, or chemical warheads can be fired 20 kilometers (12 mi). Newer high explosive and cargo (used to deliver anti-personnel or antitank mines) rockets have a range of 30 kilometers (19 mi) and more. Warheads weigh around 20 kilograms (44 lb), depending on the type.

2B17 or also BM-21-1: This upgrade was presented for the first time in 2003 and was developed by Motovilikha Plants from Perm. The system is fitted with a satellite navigation system NAP SNS, automated fire control system ASUNO, APP laying system and can fire a new generation of rockets with a range of 40 km (25 mi). The truck is the Ural-43201.

9P138 "Grad-1": lighter 36-round version, mounted on a six-by-six ZIL-131 chassis. The vehicle with supporting equipment (rockets, transporter 9T450 and re-supply truck 9F380) is referred to as complex 9K55. The 9P138 can only use "short-range" rockets with a range of 15 km (9.3 mi). It used to be known in the West as BM-21b orM1976.

RM 70 MBRL
RM-70 was developed in Czechoslovakia as a successor for the RM-51, achieving initial operational capability with its Army in 1972. The launcher was being produced in Dubnica nad Váhom (Slovakia). Originally, it was sold to East Germany. After the Soviet Union collapse and the split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovak Republic, it was sold to several states in Africa, America, Asia and Europe.

RM-70 replaced the Ural-375D 6x6 truck by a Tatra T813 "Kolos" 8x8 truck as carrier platform for the 40-round launcher. The new carrier vehicle provides enough space for carrying 40 additional 122mm rockets pack for reload. Nevertheless, RM-70 performance remains near the same as Grad even in terms of vehicle's speed and range. This rocket launcher can fire both individual rounds and volleys, principally by means of indirect fire. It is designed for concentrated fire coverage of large areas (up to 3 hectares in one volley) by high explosive fragmentation shells. The fire is robust with almost 256 kg of explosives used in one volley of 40 rockets. The rockets used are either the original Soviet 9M22 and 9M28, or locally developed models. These are the JROF with a range of 20.75 km, the JROF-K with a range of 11 km, the "Trnovnik" with 63 HEAT-bomblets and with a range of 17.5 km, the "Kuš" with five PPMI-S1 anti-personnel mines or the "Krizhna-R" with 4 anti-tank mines PTMI-D and with a range of 19,450 m.

The vehicle is provided with a central tyre pressure regulation system (to allow its adaptation to the nature of the traversed ground), a headlight with white light on the forward cab roof and, if necessary, with a snow plough SSP 1000 or a dozer blade BZ-T to arrange its own emplacement or to remove obstacles.

I fail to understand your point.

Pinaka is superior to All of this. Is that what you are trying to say ?

 

[Abingdonboy]

BM-21 Grad 122mm MBRL will one among the important defence procurement systems in the future

The Indian MoD has cleared acquisition proposals in excess of INR 60000 crore (US $9.98 billion approx.) during the last five months. Ever since Manohar Parrikar took over as the minister of defence in November last year, he has held three Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) meetings. The DAC is India’s supreme defence procurement decision-making body and the next step after the DAC approval is contract negotiation with the selected vendor.

Among the major procurement decisions taken by the DAC Mine Clearing Vessels; Airborne Warning and Control aircraft, Basic Trainer Aircrafts, Mounted Artillery Guns and Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers.

The onus of these contracts has been on ‘Make in India’ theme, outlined by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Take the case of the Mine Clearing Vessels. Goa Shipyard has been given the mandate for the manufacture of 12 vessels at a cost of INR 32,000 crore (US$5.3 billion). The shipyard has been given the autonomy to choose a foreign manufacturer which will provide the technology.

The most important ‘Make’ category deal has been awarded to HAL for manufacture of HTT-40 turbo-prop Basic Trainer Aircraft at an unstated volume by which the line could fully match economies of scale and profitable.

The Army’s long standing demand for artillery guns have also been accorded the Buy and Make (Indian) category at an estimated cost of INR 15,759 crore (US$2.5 billion). While the primary contractor will be a yet-to-be-chosen Indian corporate, it has been allowed to select its own foreign partner.

A Russian company has been selected to supply Grad Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers (MBRLs).

Meh, for all this talk and hype there is still a LOT pending:

S-70B
AH-64E
CH-47F
2 more Phalcon AWACS
6-8 more C-17s (I suspect this is impossible now however)
Rafale
A330 MRTT
M777




These are amongst the most needed procurements by the Indian military and also the most delayed. Once all these are cleared we can let out a collective sigh of relief and be sure the Indian military is soon to be in good shape.


The DM also needs to clear the three new tri-service commands (SOCOM, Cyber and space) and OROP.