Indian Lt. Colonel among 11 soldiers dead in Fidayeen attack in Indian Occupied Kashmir

[Imran Khan]

hence proved again this issue need to be solve on table

 

[Kompromat]

Muslim Kashmir?

Only Pakistan says that the document is bogus. Religion was not considered for accession. You are wrong.

Which other countries recognize Kashmir's so called accession to India based on a bogus document ?

 

[Rafael]

Indian media was ready to blame it on Pakistan when the first shot was fired.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Kashmiri resistance is taking back its rights

Yeah right, 80% turnout in elections, why won't pak be rattled to the bone? 8 out of 10 people in Kashmir care two hoots about the boycott call of 'separatists' who are now looking like clowns on the sidelines. Why would they do something to make the elections they are keen on to look disrupted? Sentiment in the valley is for the elections to move forward at all costs, only a few paid stooges from across the border try to disrupt it.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

They are Pakistanis you fool. India doesn't occupy Kashmir so how can Kashmiris fight against an Indian occupation that doesn't exist?

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did you laugh same way for balst on wagah or peshawar or karachi ?

 

[SamantK]

Oh the lies they feed you - Few and far between: security forces outnumber voters in Kashmir elections | World news | theguardian.com

From your link, the last paragraph sums it up

"But 70-year-old Ghulam Qadir, who has voted in every election in Srinagar for more than four decades, was adamant that his duty was to "chose a government".
"Anyone who tells you not to vote is just jealous because they are not in power," he said, before walking carefully and slowly into polling booth 18 to become the 26th voter of the day."

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Indian media was ready to blame it on Pakistan when the first shot was fired.

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then terrosit will comr across the border via norway?

 

[SamantK]

Which other countries recognize Kashmir's so called accession to India based on a bogus document ?

UN.

 

[Kompromat]

Yeah right, 80% turnout in elections, why won't pak be rattled to the bone? 8 out of 10 people in Kashmir care two hoots about the boycott call of 'separatists' who are now looking like clowns on the sidelines. Why would they do something to make the elections they are keen on to look disrupted? Sentiment in the valley is for the elections to move forward at all costs, only a few paid stooges from across the border try to disrupt it.

Hai Haq Hamara Azzadi, Ham Lay Ky Rahaingy Azzadi

 

[Bang Galore]

Which international agencies were monitoring the so called election?

No agency needs to monitor. Unlike in Pakistan, no one questions the Indian Election Commission's figures. Not even the separatists have done that. If you remember on the other thread, even Mirwaiz Umar Farooq didn't question the figures & turnout, only said that it is reflective of people's aspiration etc... World over, everyone accepts the figures put out. Show me even a single comment from any country questioning the figures. Even the GoP has, thus far & to my knowledge, not questioned these figures and many Pakistani talk shows have alluded to the high percentage of participation. You are pretty much on your own here.

 

[Star Wars]

Oh the lies they feed you - Few and far between: security forces outnumber voters in Kashmir elections | World news | theguardian.com

Did you read the the part of the sentence where i wrote "all across India " . God you people are delusional

 

[Bratva]

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did you laugh same way for balst on wagah or peshawar or karachi ?

Have you established the identities of attackers Or have you given thought this might be a revenge attack by those whose family members might have suffered fake encounters, tortures or rape by hands of Indian army ?

 

[Kompromat]

UN.

Instrument of Accession is a bogus document.

India's False Claim on Kashmir
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On October 28th 1993, Robin Raphel stated that Washington did not recognise
the Instrument of Accession to India as meaning that Kashmir is forever
more an integral part of India. She expressed the view that the whole of
Kashmir is disputed territory, the future status of which must be
determined in accordance with the wishes of the people of Kashmir.

The International Commission of Jurists (ICJ), based in Geneva, recently,
passed a resolution proclaiming Kashmir's accession to India as bogus and
null and void. The ICJ went further by condemning the human rights
violations in Kashmir.

These events serve to highlight the disputed status of Kashmir by focusing
on the fraudulent nature of the Instrument of Accession which was 'signed'
by the Mahrajah of Kashmir on 26th October 1947.

The Indians claim that the Instrument of Accession was signed by Mahrajah
Hari Singh on 26th October 1947, in which the Mahrajah agreed to accede to
India in return for military assistance to put down the popular rebellion
against him, seen at that time as an invasion by tribesmen from
neighbouring Pakistan. The details of the accession were worked out between
the Kashmiri Prime Minister, MC Mahajan and the Indian official, VP Menon,
in Dehli. However, there are serious doubts about the signing of the
document. Alastair Lamb (in his book, Kashmir - A disputed legacy 1846-
1990) points out that the Instrument of Accession could not have been
signed by the Mahrajah on 26th October as he was travelling by road to
Jammu (a distance of over 350 Km). There is no evidence to suggest that a
meeting or communication of any kind took place on 26th October 1947. In
fact it was on 27th October 1947 that the Mahrajah was informed by his MC
Mahajan and VP Menon (who had flown into Srinagar), the the Instrument of
Accession had already been negotiated in Dehli. The Mahrajah did not in
fact sign the Instrument of Accession, if at all, until 27th October 1947.
This sheds doubts on the actions of the Indian regime. Some Indian troops
had already arrived and secured Srinagar airfield during the middle of
October 1947. On 26th October 1947, a further massive airlift brought
thousands of Indian troops to Kashmir - BEFORE the signing of the
Accession. Therefore, this situation begs the question: would the Mahrajah
have signed the Instrument of Accession had the Indian troops not been on
Kashmiri soil?

No satisfactory original of the Instrument of Accession has ever been
produced in an international forum; a published form has always been shown.
Further, the document was not presented to Pakistan or to the UN. In the
summer of 1995, the Indian authorities reported the original document as
lost or stolen. This sheds further doubt on whether the Mahrajah actually
signed the Instrument of Accession.

The Governor-General of India at the time, Lord Mountbatten, stipulated
that the permanent accession of Kashmir to the Indian Union will only be
accepted once the people of Kashmir had been consulted. He noted in a
letter to the Mahrajah, "the question of the states's accession should be
settled by a reference to the people". Furthermore, when the Kashmir crisis
broke out in October 1947, the principle of reference to the people through
plebiscite was already established as similar disputes in some other states
had been resolved this way. The Indian Prime Minister J Nehru, accepted
this principle and reiterated his position in a letter to the British Prime
Minister on 25th October 1947, "our view, which we have repeatedly made
public, is that the question of accession in any disputed territory must be
decided in accordance with the wishes of the people and we adhere to this
view". Therefore, at the time of the so-called accession, the Indian regime
accepted the principle of reference to the people. Based on this principle,
the Instrument of Accession should have been provisional and conditional
upon the outcome of a plebiscite.

When India took the Kashmir issue to the UN in 1948, it did so under
article 35 of Chapter VI which outlines the means for a peaceful settlement
of disputes. It is interesting to note here that India did not present the
Kashmir case under the UN Chapter VII which relates to acts of aggression
as India was alleging Pakistan. Therefore, it is evident that by raising
the issue under Chapter VI, India recognised the Kashmir issue as a
dispute, thus conceding that the Instrument of Accession had not confirmed
the state to be an integral part of India. India is still party to all the
UN resolutions on Kashmir. Moreover, India and Pakistan accepted the UN
resolutions of January 1948 calling for a plebiscite in Kashmir to exercise
the right of self-determination of the people of Kashmir. India's
acceptance of the UN resolutions establishes beyond a doubt, that the
future of status of Kashmir would be determined by its people. Therefore,
the Instrument of Accession, even if genuine, is rendered null and void.

In the past, attempts to hold a plebiscite have been met with fierce
opposition from India. India has known, right from the start, that the
result of a plebiscite is a foregone conclusion - the population of Kashmir
would have voted to rid themselves of Indian rule. This has been the case
from 26th October 1947 to the present day. On the practicality of holding a
plebiscite, a paper by the US state department, presented to the UN on 2nd
December 1947, noted , "the dominion of India may attempt to establish the
extant electoral rolls on the basis for the referendum. As these rolls are
said to contain less than 7% of the population and were compiled on a basis
which served the weight to the members of the wealthiest educated Hindu
majority who would obviously vote for accession to India, it is important
that the electoral body should in fact be composed on a basis of complete
adult suffrage in order that the result of the referendum may be
representative of the actual wishes of the people of Kashmir".

In view of the above arguments, it is clear that the Indian case on Kashmir
is politically, legally and morally unjustified. The commitment made by
India and the UN to allow the people of the state to choose their own
future are neither time bound nor do they provide an escape clause for the
Indian regime. It is only through fraud and repression that India continues
to forcefully occupy a large portion of Kashmir.

The Instrument of Accession & The Indian Claims to Kashmir

 

[pursuit of happiness]

If not the leaders,atleast the army official should respond if they blame us this time.

Jaise india main to saare dhood k dhule hai.

They are foolish enough to go on genocide in kashmir but doesn't expect a response

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can you elaborate please

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Hai Haq Hamara Azzadi, Ham Lay Ky Rahaingy Azzadi

Aake Lele, we're waiting....